Busted for carrying a switchblade.

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Thanks Captain Semantics.

not semantics.

two different concepts, with varying possibility of outcomes.

if you are going to post about legal concepts, you should have some idea of what they are and what they mean.
 
Probable cause can be "I didn't like the way he responded to questions" or "He appeared nervous".

The fact of the matter is "I've been pulled over plenty of times, and have never been searched" is null and void. Thats like saying "I've smoked cigarettes for years, and never had lung problems". Just because it hasnt happened yet, doesnt mean it wont happen.

Lucky, the reason people are responding the way they are is because you are asking a question about the consequences and probability of being caught with an illegal weapon. It insinuates that you're thinking about carrying one in public, even though you say that you wouldnt. It's a heated debate, and it obviously is a controversial subject (as is any weapon or concealed carry law). Don't be surprised when people see the post and respond with a strong view on the subject.

I understand what you are saying, but people need to read more carefully then and pay attention to the fact that I have repeatedly said I don't carry, or plan on carrying autos unless I move to somewhere it is legal for me.
 
Then how about you step down off your mile high mountain of knowledge and try and respectfully inform me instead of criticizing me. I don't claim to know everything.


i owe you nothing, including any form of respectful response given the op and your follow up responses.

if you have no intention of carrying an illegal item, why ask about carrying it?
 
Well when a mod comes on here and says I'm not "following the law" because he clearly hasn't read any of my posts, I'll take that risk. I wasn't really disrespectful anyways...

Speaking of not reading posts, EB did no such thing. I don't anticipate you will last long here if you don't start acting with a little maturity or humility...or even intelligence. How does that rotc thing work out for someone who asks questions and then degrades anyone who responds in a manner befitting the question? Grow up, kid.

Thanks Captain Semantics.

It was not semantics. Those are two different concepts, legally speaking.

i owe you nothing, including any form of respectful response given the op and your follow up responses.

if you have no intention of carrying an illegal item, why ask about carrying it?

Great question. Was this whole thread started just to waste bandwidth?
 
Buddy, its the internet. Relax, you got the concept i was trying to get across didnt you? good. Not getting into an argument over the legal lingo of why a cop can ask you to step out of your vehicle, just speaking to the main point of the thread. I suggest you do the same.

I think the main concept has been discussed enough, I'm out.
 
Buddy, its the internet. Relax, you got the concept i was trying to get across didnt you? good. Not getting into an argument over the legal lingo of why a cop can ask you to step out of your vehicle, just speaking to the main point of the thread. I suggest you do the same.


so you post info that is inaccurate, and i need to relax?

the reason you are unable to present a valid argument is because you don't know anything about the "legal lingo", which is essential to understanding how and why an illegal item may be discovered.

i suggest you stop posting about this topic.
 
i owe you nothing, including any form of respectful response given the op and your follow up responses.

if you have no intention of carrying an illegal item, why ask about carrying it?

Because I was curious, like I have stated at least once before, I don't know what you've got against me, but I'm not trying to start an argument here...

Speaking of not reading posts, EB did no such thing. I don't anticipate you will last long here if you don't start acting with a little maturity or humility...or even intelligence. How does that rotc thing work out for someone who asks questions and then degrades anyone who responds in a manner befitting the question? Grow up, kid.



It was not semantics. Those are two different concepts, legally speaking.



Great question. Was this whole thread started just to waste bandwidth?

Don't call me a kid. Don't judge my character while you sit behind your computer screen, you know nothing about me or my "rotc thing". Learn to show some respect. I haven't degraded anyone, if Esav has a problem with what I posted I am positive I will hear about it. And that will be between myself and him.
 
Because I was curious, like I have stated at least once before, I don't know what you've got against me,

nothing, really. other than a thread that was not very well thought out prior to posting.

and there is this (again):

Then how about you step down off your mile high mountain of knowledge and try and respectfully inform me instead of criticizing me. I don't claim to know everything.

yeah, i know what i am talking about here. if you like, go through the other threads in this forum and you can decide for yourself if i am sitting on a "mile high mountain of knowledge".

but i do not respond well to sarcasm veiled as a request for information.


but I'm not trying to start an argument here...

all evidence to the contrary.
 
Forget it...good luck in life, kid. Looks like you'll need it.
 
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nothing, really. other than a thread that was not very well thought out prior to posting.

and there is this (again):



yeah, i know what i am talking about here. if you like, go through the other threads in this forum and you can decide for yourself if i am sitting on a "mile high mountain of knowledge".

but i do not respond well to sarcasm veiled as a request for information.




all evidence to the contrary.

True that reply shouldn't have been sarcastic, I apologize. If you would like to send me a PM and explain how I was wrong I would appreciate it, because I'm going to close this thread before it goes even farther off track.

You are a child. At least, you are acting like one. Because of this, you will be regarded as one. As a side note, I have seen pictures of the det. you claim to be a part of...I am older than everyone there, scooter. ;)



Who said character? I questioned your maturity, among other things, but not character. If that's how you want to read it, not my problem. If it is still unclear, you should probably ask SIU, or is it SMSU?, for your money back.



1. Take your own advice.
2. Why should I show you respect? What have you done to earn it? Show me.



You have insulted anyone who has not 100% agreed with the notion of carrying something illegally.



As you have shown, I doubt you will learn anything from such an encounter.

At that, I am done with you, kid. You certainly lack the maturity or intellectual stamina to carry on a civil discussion.

Congrats for being older? And it's Iowa State University AFROTC where I "claim" to be a part of.

I like how I ask a question about knives and you question me about my life.
 
True that reply shouldn't have been sarcastic, I apologize. If you would like to send me a PM and explain how I was wrong I would appreciate it, because I'm going to close this thread before it goes even farther off track.

no problem, pm sent.
 
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