Buying & selling pet peeves

[J. Doyle]

The other thing about it that bothers me is when makers do it! Why delete your pricing (as a maker)? Don’t you want people to see what you have to offer for the money?

There are a couple reasons makers do it.

1. Some collectors (buyers) are REALLY quirky about others knowing what they paid for a knife. Likewise some makers don't want other makers knowing what they sell knives for. I personally don't understand these positions completely.

2. A maker will, without a doubt, get someone who places an order and then gets sticker shock when the price is quoted and complains/argues that they want the same price they dug up in a post from 4 years ago.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

There are a couple reasons makers do it.

1. Some collectors (buyers) are REALLY quirky about others knowing what they paid for a knife. Likewise some makers don't want other makers knowing what they sell knives for. I personally don't understand these positions completely.

2. A maker will, without a doubt, get someone who places an order and then gets sticker shock when the price is quoted and complains/argues that they want the same price they dug up in a post from 4 years ago.

The second concern is understandable. Some people can’t seem to grasp the concept of inflation.

The first concern is ridiculous (on the buyer/collector’s part) IMO and it understandable for the maker to accommodate them (I guess; I still don’t like it ).

 

[Ilikesharpstuff]

The second concern is understandable. Some people can’t seem to grasp the concept of inflation.

The first concern is ridiculous (on the buyer/collector’s part) IMO and it understandable for the maker to accommodate them (I guess; I still don’t like it ).

I agree with you about price deletion. It's really nice to be able to research past sales and understand what a knife was going for at a given point in time, it definitely regulates the market and prevents buyers from unknowingly overpaying and sellers from scalping and/or missing out on potential money in a sale. Bladeforums could have been the quintessential catalogue/reference for person-to-person market values if sale prices were preserved, but asking about it is beating a dead horse at this point. Instead you get people basing their pricing on what happens on eBay or consignment shops like AZCK. It is extremely easy for a buyer to remain anonymous if they're so worried about the community knowing what they paid for a knife. I personally can't understand why this needs to be some big secret unless you plan to sell it back to the same community for a profit later on.

 

[ooitzoo]

I sort of understand dealers / makers deleting prices though I don't think that alleviates the complaining. Of course, I'm not a maker so I could be wrong here.

I don't really understand it as it relates to a regular person though. I just can't see how it's relevant for the ordinary Joe.

 

[Lone_Wolfe]

Pet peeves;

Claiming something in my post, THEN wanting to ask me 20 questions. You should have done that before you said you'd take it, especially in my thread.

Claiming something in my post, THEN making me a lower offer. Nuff said.

Asking me for a video or more pics, then ghosting. The courtesy of a "Thank you, but I'm going to pass on it" will go a long way toward me being willing to do the video/pics next time you ask.

 

[ooitzoo]

Just had one actually. Buying something from a website, getting tracking, and having that tracking route to some random website that just regurgitates what USPS or UPS would otherwise give me. It adds no value whatsoever and I always have to then goto the website of the carrier.

 

[Quiet]

I haven’t been a member here for very long and I still see myself as an outsider for the most part.

That said, I really prefer as much transparency in a classified ad and one thing that struck me after joining is the fact that many people edit their prices to “sold” after the fact or outright delete the price. As a result I can’t see if someone got a deal and is flipping something. Seems like taking away the ability to edit a classified ad would cut down on potential issues and wasted time for the mods.

The other thing about it that bothers me is when makers do it! Why delete your pricing (as a maker)? Don’t you want people to see what you have to offer for the money?

What the final price was, really isn't anyone's business. It's why it's allowed. Secondly, makers that remove prices, probably do it so you don't get some noob coming in and demanding to know why a seller is selling a knife say, for $300 when six months, or six years ago, the price was $200. Plenty of folks leave prices up, and good on 'em. However, nothing wrong with deleting prices.

 

[JTR357]

There are a couple reasons makers do it.

1. Some collectors (buyers) are REALLY quirky about others knowing what they paid for a knife. Likewise some makers don't want other makers knowing what they sell knives for. I personally don't understand these positions completely.

2. A maker will, without a doubt, get someone who places an order and then gets sticker shock when the price is quoted and complains/argues that they want the same price they dug up in a post from 4 years ago.

The second concerned is valid. I usually keep the price of my old sales with a strike through it. A few times people would still ask if it was available even after I put a big bold SOLD after the price. That made me just delete the price altogether.

 

[JTR357]

This is a very informative thread. I'm going to keep these gripes in mind for my future sales. Thanks for the feedback, everyone.

 

[JTR357]

Pet peeves;

Claiming something in my post, THEN wanting to ask me 20 questions. You should have done that before you said you'd take it, especially in my thread.

Claiming something in my post, THEN making me a lower offer. Nuff said.

Asking me for a video or more pics, then ghosting. The courtesy of a "Thank you, but I'm going to pass on it" will go a long way toward me being willing to do the video/pics next time you ask.

Oh yeah, all those irk the sh!t out of me.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

What the final price was, really isn't anyone's business. It's why it's allowed. Secondly, makers that remove prices, probably do it so you don't get some noob coming in and demanding to know why a seller is selling a knife say, for $300 when six months, or six years ago, the price was $200. Plenty of folks leave prices up, and good on 'em. However, nothing wrong with deleting prices.

I say that is true until flipping or scalping or whatever becomes a problem. Then it should be the community as a whole’s business. As to makers I’ve already said that while I’m not unsympathetic I do think it is a practice done in error. In summary, deleting prices is wrong about half the time. IMHO

 

[Crag the Brewer]

I really don't sell much, but I believe I keep my prices up. ?
I don't understand why Other people dont.

I'm a logical person. I believe in a company, Everyone's wage should be posted up on the wall. For everyone to see. Everyone.

Obviously, the most valuable employees get paid the Most....the least gets the least.
Why is that hard to understand?
After awhile, most should Know who is valuable, anyhow, and what they bring.
Why the secrets?


If I sell a knife for $400 I Should be able to tell you Why it costs that....right?

Everything (everyone) has a price, and the seller Should be able to defend that.
*they don't Have to, but they should be able to defend it.
Most people just are non-confrontational, and want more, and more. Thinking it's owed to them. They have something of value, and you dont.... I disagree.
-removing prices benefits flippers, in my opinion.


*I know that I am not normal with how I think......
But, it's how I think.

 

[Quiet]

I say that is true until flipping or scalping or whatever becomes a problem. Then it should be the community as a whole’s business. As to makers I’ve already said that while I’m not unsympathetic I do think it is a practice done in error. In summary, deleting prices is wrong about half the time. IMHO

Well, the thing to remember, is that it's your opinion. Flippers suck, but they're not that big a problem here, they're actually a larger problem elsewhere. Most of them just come here to buy knives, and sell them elsewhere (which might imply that prices here are lower than elsewhere, incidentally). Very few people make much headway doing it here.

My last comment beating this dead horse will be this. Please feel free to leave prices up, as some others do. And when you try to sell something, and someone comes at you with "Well, you need to sell me this knife for $XXX (less than yours, possibly years ago) because someone else sold theirs for that price." remember this conversation.

 

[Sharp & Fiery]

The other thing to consider is that newer makers sometime come out with a model that is actually a hit. During the beginning stages of their knifemaking career they may charge say $150 for the knife.

A couple years later they have come leaps and bounds in their finishing skills and someone wants to order the same knife for $150. It’s just not doable because the maker now spends more time finishing said knife.

If I was that maker, I would not want to have to defend my price 2/3 years later.

Just a thought.

 

[Quiet]

I'm a logical person. I believe in a company, Everyone's wage should be posted up on the wall. For everyone to see. Everyone.

Obviously, the most valuable employees get paid the Most....the least gets the least.
Why is that hard to understand?

Heavy derailment, but I just had to respond to this.

I too am a logical person, and can immediately see the problems this creates. The issue with this would be that an awful lot of the least productive people will be firmly of the belief that they are the most productive people, and thus entirely deserving of the top of the pay scale. They aren't, but hey even lower producing people can be useful to accomplishing the goals of the business. I personally have worked with quite a few people who have a much higher estimation of what they bring to the table than is reflected in reality, unfortunately.

 

[Crag the Brewer]

Heavy derailment, but I just had to respond to this.

I too am a logical person, and can immediately see the problems this creates. The issue with this would be that an awful lot of the least productive people will be firmly of the belief that they are the most productive people, and thus entirely deserving of the top of the pay scale. They aren't, but hey even lower producing people can be useful to accomplishing the goals of the business. I personally have worked with quite a few people who have a much higher estimation of what they bring to the table than is reflected in reality, unfortunately.

Sorry for more derailment.....

I Did say, that I know I don't think "normal"

but what you were just talking about is the Opposite of logical.

"The issue with this would be that an awful lot of the least productive people will be firmly of the belief that they are the most productive people, and thus entirely deserving of the top of the pay scale. They aren't, "


The way I would see it is the hardest to replace employees get paid the most.

How valuable is a postion, if I could replace you in 5 mins...?



Change of pace.....

What I Love about knife sales......

-seeing an older, not often seen model first popping up for sale....You seeing it "first" panicking, wondering If you should buy it, snatch it up before others can.... Heart skipping a beat.

That's when I Know, not to buy it......haha