I agree. I think whoever completes the purchase first is the one that gets the knife. Regardless of who has it in their cart first... first to pay gets it. If it wasn't set up like this I could put the first 10 knives I liked in my cart and then take my time checking covers on another page or another computer before deciding.
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I agree. I think whoever completes the purchase first is the one that gets the knife. Regardless of who has it in their cart first... first to pay gets it. If it wasn't set up like this I could put the first 10 knives I liked in my cart and then take my time checking covers on another page or another computer before deciding.
I agree with that. But since these are such high demand and a good amount of these sold seem to go to people who are going to resell them. Should there be a limit of 1 or 2? Or no? I believe they said one of each handle material. That's like 5 potentially per scalper, I mean person.
Each micarta cover was limited to 1 per order. Putting a limit doesn't really do much because that's easy to get around. I don't think there's an easy solution. I think overall the Northwoods line benefits anyone that likes knives regardless of how hard they are to get... so that's a good thing, but it's hard to see that perspective when you don't get the knife you want. It used to make me angry, but is what it is. Flipping will never stop. It's the way the knife world is. If GEC decides to incorporate some of the Northwoods style cues then that will change things up. The other thing I keep in mind is that it can get much worse. For example, a lottery system is the next step. You put your name in and hopefully you get picked to be allowed to purchase but its unlikely and you have no choice in what covers you get.
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There is going to be more to this run?Yeah; half the in-stock count had disappeared between glancing at both micarta covers, and it was sold out from under me while trying to push through Paypal. For the quantity in stock, I'm not surprised, and yes, very pleased to see it sell well.
I guess I'll just have to stalk KSF here and on social media for the next two weeks for the rest of the run. And, as my wife just reminded me, my birthday is actually two weeks from today. "Serendipity", in her words.
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A lottery? Nahhh. I doubt they will never go to that. This is not much different than a lottery now, only he is not running it. His website is. It is a lottery not by clicking that paypal button. It you use credit checkout, you're toast. Way too long of a process.
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But don't forget, we are talking Northwoods/GEC Barlows. The most sought after. Although all GEC are not a breeze to get, the barlows are an extraordinary exception and in a class of its own. The exceptions are any Northwoods I guess. All other GEC patterns are at least a little bit easier to acquire. Easy is not the right word. A better probability of hitting that lottery! Ha ha.
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The knife is taken out of inventory as soon as the payment is successful. But I would be interested in how (specifically) it would be improved? As mentioned, if you hold cart contents for 10 minutes - the first guy is going to put everything in his cart and while he is picking you are going to see everything out of stock and walk of cussing. Then 10 minutes later the 99th guy to come along happens to be there when all but one come back into stock. Those are really the two options. If you get more complicated than that, you are doing custom development and there will be bugs and great expense to deal with. But I would still be interested in an exact logic flow of the perfect cart action on a short run drop with 300 people hitting refresh every second.
The way websites for other products do it is they allow the first person to select an item to hold it for a few minutes. If you decide not to purchase or you take more than the few minutes the item is released and it becomes available. You solve the problem of people putting everything in their cart by limiting the number of items someone can put in their cart. This is how concert tickets get sold everyday. Now if you're saying this system can't do it or it costs money that's an issue, but you asked for the logic flow on how the process can be improved.
I can sympathize with the issues that Derek and others like yourself face when there is this kind of demand. This is just an issue with the process I see that as a consumer I'd like to see happen in a different way. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
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That was back in April, for the Hawthorne Jack. I don't know about the Barlows.
Can't say on Giraffe.
I think there were 100 of each of the Micartas, black was at '100' when I grabbed one, denim was 44 or so and burlap was 14 I think when I got to those.
Each had an endless wait for Paypal to load, but I was logged in so I just hit 'pay'. Seems like they stay in your cart once you go to PP.
And then there were none...
While checking out you can see how many are left eh? I didn't know that, or notice.
Personally surprised burlap is so popular. I was tempted to try and get one of those, but I just felt like I was trying to like it. And I thought I just need to see it in person to appreciate it? But I chickened out and didn't.
So that's maybe about 400 for red black blue and brown. And maybe 100 bone? So 500 for the drop? Ksf definitley made some dough, big numbers for a 8 minute flash sale
While checking out you can see how many are left eh? I didn't know that, or notice.
Personally surprised burlap is so popular. I was tempted to try and get one of those, but I just felt like I was trying to like it. And I thought I just need to see it in person to appreciate it? But I chickened out and didn't.
So that's maybe about 400 for red black blue and brown. And maybe 100 bone? So 500 for the drop? Ksf definitley made some dough, big numbers for a 8 minute flash sale
Not when checking out, but when you go to the actual knife pages (with the pics) to put one in your cart, they show what's left in stock by the price.
I was surprised that the denim and burlap were (IMO much) more expensive than black, almost like an exotic handle material.
That's a lot of dough alright, might make up for all those Navy knives still sitting in inventory(lol).
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Mike, there is no real "better" method to improve the process. I saw this happening with Spyderco knives Sprint Runs and Limited Editions from ZT. What is sad for the few that actually want a knife to use is that they end up possibly having to buy it 2nd hand from someone at a huge price increase.
Zero Tolerance tried a few things to make things even across the board, from selling the LE items themselves and having their servers blown up and almost over driven to selecting a handful of dealers via some manner only known to them and some of the ardent supporters. That method seems to have worked the best since it has continued that way. Spyderco has the elusive "Collectors Club", but a casual person that might be interested in such a thing would be hard pressed to easily find current and accurate information on how to proceed.
However, that is neither here, nor there as GEC would not have the same ability as KAI to sell direct in the same format. As a person/collector/customer that does like, use, and buy traditional knives, I have found it pretty frustrating the way that some dealers handle the notifications of in stock items on their website. Clicking on an item, to find "Sorry this page cannot be found", minutes after the pomp and circumstance doesn't evoke feelings of return shopping for that item at that vendor. Unintended consequences I guess you can call them.