Can & bottle openers on knives in 2020, purposeless

[Quiet]

But a " SAK " is a knife, and in many cases more so than the overbuilt beasts that try to pass as a knife these days.
So yes a lot of knives have can openers and cap lifters.

I'd wager that if there wasn't a flat blade driver involved a lot of people would be much less happy about the inclusion of a cap lifter, more people than you realize do not use cap lifters.

I bet there's almost as many who don't use them as there are who do.

I could just as easily say that more people than you realize DO use cap lifters.

Anyway, listen. The fact is, they're useful tools, which is why caplifters and can openers are a feature on multitools and most SAK models. (shrug). Not offering them is something that's most likely never going to come to pass.

If you absolutely do not want a SAK that has either tool, but absolutely have to have a SAK, there are plenty of modders out there who would be glad to create a custom model just for you at any time. Maybe look into something along those lines?

 

[Lee D]

there are plenty of modders out there who would be glad to create a custom model just for you at any time. Maybe look into something along those lines?

Bingo

 

[craytab]

But a " SAK " is a knife, and in many cases more so than the overbuilt beasts that try to pass as a knife these days.
So yes a lot of knives have can openers and cap lifters.

I'd wager that if there wasn't a flat blade driver involved a lot of people would be much less happy about the inclusion of a cap lifter, more people than you realize do not use cap lifters.

I bet there's almost as many who don't use them as there are who do.

Stop digging.

 

[James Y]

I previously mentioned the other uses of the Victorinox bottle opener/large screwdriver blade that don’t involve bottle opening. I also don’t always use the wire stripper notch, either, but it takes no extra space, and I’m glad it’s there. With the bottle opener, all it is is a little hook; if you use the other features on the tool but not the opener, then that little hook is only a cosmetic ‘problem’.

But can openers and bottle openers are definitely still very useful in 2020.

Jim

 

[22-rimfire]

I just do not like idea of every damn thing possible having a cap lifter incorporated because I do not drink.

You of course are almost ignoring the fact that the bottle opener on a SAK is also a flat head screw driver which is very useful. I use mine quite a bit.

Oh by the way, I have a separate pipe knife.

 

[22-rimfire]

Actually got a SA For the corkscrew, in my wine phase. Seen some use but I do have the cork lifter now.

Years ago I wanted the cork screw but I seldom buy wine anymore. I do have a couple bottles in my liquor storage cabinet for whatever and has been there for years. Most of the liquor has been untouched for years too as it is a very seldom thing for me anymore. For me, the corkscrew is fairly useless on a SAK and it wasn't a great wine bottle opener anyway. Like you I have the type with the cork lifter but it doesn't get used very often. I do routinely keep glass bottled beer in the house that a cap lifter comes in real handy to open even though technically I usually use a regular can opener (the old style that you often got for free). Condensed milk gets opened with that.

 

[Hickory n steel]

You of course are almost ignoring the fact that the bottle opener on a SAK is also a flat head screw driver which is very useful. I use mine quite a bit.

Oh by the way, I have a separate pipe knife.

The driver is the only reason I tolerate it.
I find it very useful and on occasion the wire stripper, that cap lifter itself however much I've tried I just have not come up with any other way it can be useful.
I thought it might work for turning eye screws but that didn't work out.
Maybe theres something I can modify it into, but I'll have to look it over and see.

 

[craytab]

I don't drink wine, but I'm not complaining that some SAKs come with a corkscrew. As long as it doesn't stick out and create a hotspot it's no big deal. I'm sure at some point I could find a use for it.

There's an old adage: Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

I've used the cork screw a couple times but find a philips much much much more useful there. With the cork screw you can put in the little eyeglasses driver though.

 

[guy g]

Put me in the corkscrew users club also .. that is my go to for wine opening

 

[stabman]

This thread is not endorsed by MacGyver.
That is all.

 

[simple6]

As useless as deep carry pocket clips.

 

[Triton]

Actually got a SA For the corkscrew, in my wine phase. Seen some use but I do have the cork lifter now.

Exactly. It seems to me that most people opening a bottle of whine are going to be in a circumstance where a purpose made tool is pretty much going to be in the vicinity. Emergency opening seems like a rare occurence.

 

[Triton]

Just shows you don't like wine. And there, it's you in the tiny niche. In some markets.
Entirely likely. Or maybe not...

 

[Triton]

I don't drink wine, but I'm not complaining that some SAKs come with a corkscrew. As long as it doesn't stick out and create a hotspot it's no big deal. I'm sure at some point I could find a use for it.

There's an old adage: Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

I hear you and even agree with you. I am not complaining, just making my nomination for most useless tool. I suspect that they are sill there due to tradition rather than utility on saks. Most multi tools do not include them.

 

[Nixelplix]

I'm so into gadgets on my knives I have been thinking of getting one of these Mikov switchblades.

 

[Triton]

Put me in the corkscrew users club also .. that is my go to for wine opening

No kidding? Rather than a purpose built tool?

 

[herisson]

It's when you most need it that you don't have it. Look, the whole idea behind the multi-bladed folder and the multi-tool is exactly this : in case you need it, presto ! Here you go ! If you have the specialized tools available, by all means, use them. Or not. I have some very efficient cork screws on pocket knives, so efficient actually that I won't bother going to the kitchen when there is a bottle to pop. Just do it right there and right now in the garden.

 

[allenC]

Not every knife, but theres no multiplier that I've seen ( besides a Sebertool m2, m3, or those crappy swisstool offerings) that doesn't have a cap lifter and I dont know of a single Vic model 84mm or larger without one.
Honestly if just once I had the option of a multitool or Vic model I wanted without a cap lifter I'd be happy, I'd just like the option at least once.

Some Vic models without a bottle opener...

Alpineer
Alpineer Grip
Cheese knife
Sentinel
One Hand Sentinel
Hunter XT Grip
Ranger Grip 52
Hunter Pro Alox
Hunter Pro M Alox
Junior 09
Swiss Army 1
Excelsior
Pruning knife M
Pruning knife S
Floral knife
Pruning knife XS
Budding knife

 

[22-rimfire]

Some Vic models without a bottle opener...

Of all of those, I only own the Sentinel. Guess I have some catching up to do.

Bottle openers are fine with me. The corkscrew I loose. I only have the Spartan with a corkscrew. I go out of my way NOT to buy ones with the corkscrew. My Spartan was given to me by Vic.

 

[Hickory n steel]

Some Vic models without a bottle opener...

Alpineer
Alpineer Grip
Cheese knife
Sentinel
One Hand Sentinel
Hunter XT Grip
Ranger Grip 52
Hunter Pro Alox
Hunter Pro M Alox
Junior 09
Swiss Army 1
Excelsior
Pruning knife M
Pruning knife S
Floral knife
Pruning knife XS
Budding knife

But do they still have the flat blade driver ?

I know the solo and the gardner are single blade knives with no other functions as are a few others on the list and others that aren't like the day packer ,but as far as I know the only way to get a knife with a flat blade driver and no cap lifter is a TL-29 pattern electricians knife.

Victorinox just doesn't offer what I want and I'm not going to pay more to have it made, I have to just grudgingly live with it and I'm okay with that.
Given the choice I'd do things differently for sure but I can't and its probably best that way.
I'm the kind of person where If I'm paying for one improvement I might as well go all out and pretty soon I start seeking perfection and wind up with a completely different knife, so I'm better off just living with it as is.