Can the bad or ugly be forgiven?

on_the_edge

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Just wondering:

If you had a bad deal with someone, what would it take for you to forgive them and deal with them in the future? I have only had one bad experience here, and because of that, I will not deal with that person again. If he tried to buy something I was selling, I would not sell to him.

How about everyone else here? What would you do and could you forgive?
 
If the person was willing to "man up" and try to make things right, then I would give them another shot.
 
For me, it really depends on how bad or ugly the experience was.

I've learned the value of forgiveness and second chances. Some experiences are unforgettable and unforgiveable, though.

Example: if I'd been unlucky enough to purchase a stolen/misappropriated knife from Ann_dem/Vlad...that's completely unforgiveable. The very suggestion creeps me out.:grumpy: :grumpy:

How wish-washy!! But...it really does depend.
 
Scumbags are sumbags. Once they get on my radar they stay there. The most important thing you can do is let everyone you talk to in the knife community know about them,,I sure do anyway.

Phillip :)
 
How'd the deal go bad? If neither party is out more than wasted time, well, maybe. If someone sold you a busted knife for NIB bucks and is offering another one, look elsewhere.
 
Depends on the circumstances. If it was an honest mistake, I would give them one more chance. One.

If it was a deliberate attempt to mislead - that ends it right there for me. Forever.
 
I wonder if I can forgive the folks who always cut me deals!!! They are the ones who cost me money!:D

But really it depends on how the situation is handled and how ugly it gets! You can't agree with everyone everytime.
 
If it was really a bad deal, then no way ever again. I don't care if he offered me more than I was asking and paid in advance with cash. It's not worth it to me.

I've done a lot of deals here and have only met up with one weasel, though, so generally this is a fine place to trade, sell, and buy. I can't say enough good things about all the other fine folks I've dealt with.
 
Broos: I've done a lot of deals here and have only met up with one weasel, though, so generally this is a fine place to trade, sell, and buy. I can't say enough good things about all the other fine folks I've dealt with.

Same here, except to be forgiven around here, I think it all depends on the circumstances. I do think, once a traget, always a target.
 
Na only if you continue to make yourself a target.
 
It isn't the mistake, it is how a person handles and owns up to it that defines them.

If a person walks away or brushes it off or makes excuses without making things right, you learn a a lot about the person.

If a person owns up to it and does what they can to make things right, you learn about the person and the person grows.

Like OP said, it depends.
 
We all make mistakes from time to time.

There is a difference between making a mistake, and having a pattern of making mistakes or bad errors in judgement.

Ethics, you either have them, or you don't.
 
It isn't the mistake, it is how a person handles and owns up to it that defines them...........

I agree. If it's an honest mistake, like someone else said, and they own up to it and make things right, then yeah I would probably give them another shot....... as long as they don;t have a line the length of this forum that they're owning up to!
 
We cut Artsig some slack on a bad deal and he turned out to be a genuine infected, pus-laden POS. A true American scumbag.....

But luckily he is in the very, very tiny minority. Many "bad deals" here end up as communication issues, misunderstandings, and honest screw-ups. If the person Man ups and takes his lumps he is worthy of a break.

If the screw-up is theft then all deals are off and he/she forever remains a puke in my book.
 
If the person Man ups and takes his lumps he is worthy of a break.

I'll bet this is hard for you to say given that Artsig screwed you twice. I admire your willingness and ability to put yourself out there yet again. Like I said when I started this thread, I don't think I could do that. And, as a few others have said, there are so many good people here, why waste your time with a jerkoff?
 
Scumbags are sumbags. Once they get on my radar they stay there. The most important thing you can do is let everyone you talk to in the knife community know about them,,I sure do anyway.

Phillip :)

Yup. I agree with what Philip said.
 
I'm thinking that if mistakes are made and one or both parties 'man up,' then it wasn't really a bad deal - just a deal with a lot of mistakes.
 
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