Can you recommend me a fixed blade based on these requirements?

[MidwestDave]

Now you're just speculating, baselessly too I might add. He was challenged for the inane reasons he DID give. Seems you have more problems with that than he did.

It's been said before by me and others, I don't care if you like Busse or not, or any other brand for that matter. But if you come out with nonsense, expect to be called on it.

Quite a chip on your shoulder.
I have no problem other than internet bullies.
I've seen it before.
HE.....DOESN'T.....WANT.....A.....BUSSE.
He has his reasons and they're his business.



Dave

 

[J_Curd]

not entirely true. If I'm doing a multicoat cold blue operation, I put a lot more time in the sanding than a straight satin finish- both both require a lot of hand work. If I'm doing a different type of 'coated' finish- say a vinegar forge finish, all I have to do is get a good 320 or 400grit scratch pattern before HT and I am good with 10 minutes of crocus cloth after the vinegar portion of the process. A blasted finish is cake, if you have the hardware. But you STILL can't start with 60 grit scratches.

Machine coating versus satin finishes that require zero human hand labor I can't speak to- it's the cost of machines, not time involved that matters most.

No offense bud, but you arent a high production facility.

 

[philwar]

You need to do more homework. Both are processes, both require next to zero human work.

Yup, next to zero.

 

[philwar]

Quite a chip on your shoulder.
I have no problem other than internet bullies.
I've seen it before.
HE.....DOESN'T.....WANT.....A.....BUSSE.
He has his reasons and they're his business.



Dave

LOL, who has the chip?? You have even less reason to butt in here than I do! And who are you calling a bully, now that you too have been told it is completely legitimate to challenge a person's stated reasons for not liking a certain brand.
FYI (and this is just to make you look even dumber than you already do) I think it's just as silly to avoid Cold Steel for their marketing as Busse.

I will repeat myself, 'cause you studiously avoid this point: I don't care if he wants a Busse or not. But if you publicly come out with reasons for not liking them, expect to be challenged. This does not go for Busse only.

Doesn't it mean anything to you that NO ONE is telling you it's my business alone to do so? That is because you too can butt in. Funny how that only works for people chosen by you.

 

[Bluntedgedinstrument]

This isnt to stir the pot, but I think that any serious knife collector should at least handle a Busse at sometime for however short or long that may be. Just to see what the enigma is and whether its for them. Like all enthusiasts I pressume owned a SAK or handled one. Back to the OP, a Dan koster pukko might suit. If it does I can help you out

 

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[James0723]

Thanks for the recommendations everyone.

I want to be clear that I don't dislike Busse. I'm glad that he started his company and makes the knives he does, his contributions have made the knife world much better and more interesting.

I do think Busse is very overpriced and I don't have the money right now to spend on overpriced knives. I wish some other company would start making knives in INFI steel so Busse would have pressure on them to lower prices.

As it stands, I'm thinking now I'm just going to get a Ka-bar in D2 steel. I've seen the destruction tests NOSS did on youtube for one of these (that had already seen heavy use when it was donated to him) and I'm satisfied in the quality of the knife. I can also get three of them for the price of the cheapest Busse I can find. (the Tank Buster in standard configuration on his site).

I am saving up money for the Atlanta Blade Show that happens in May. Perhaps then I'll buy a more expensive knife.

 

[J_Curd]

I've been very pleased with the D2 from Ontario. Other's have complained about some "spotty heat treatments" but I haven't had the same experience.

 

[Joshua J.]

I do think Busse is very overpriced and I don't have the money right now to spend on overpriced knives. I wish some other company would start making knives in INFI steel so Busse would have pressure on them to lower prices.

http://www.scrapyardknives.com/

 

[Ankerson]

I do think Busse is very overpriced and I don't have the money right now to spend on overpriced knives. I wish some other company would start making knives in INFI steel so Busse would have pressure on them to lower prices.

They can't because INFI is Busses Steel and it's Patented.

Info here: http://www.bussecombat.com/infi/index.shtml

But yeah the K-Bar will do just fine.

 

[Dagon]

(I didn't read the whole thread)

I understood what the OP referred to re: Busse, even if I would have probably not mentioned it. Just browsing their site you can see juvenile terms like "skull crusher", or "tank buster".
My opinion? Yep, the knives are probably pretty good (never really used one but they do feel seriously convincing in the hand and the fit and finish is good as well), yet I typically don't like their looks. Each to his own.

Anyway, coming back to the OP's question: yes an F1 is probably pretty much what he's looking for but I would also recommend checking out the more traditional scandinavian knives by Roselli, especially the ones with UHC blade - a very hard carbon steel. The Carpenter or the larger Hunter seem very suitable to the OP. I have the normal carbon steel Carpenter and it is a gem.

 

[Bluntedgedinstrument]

They can't because INFI is Busses Steel and it's Patented.

Thats what I was thinking, jeeze that guy has it covered from every angle


On another note I CANT BELIEVE YOUR NOT GETTING A BUSSE, FOR FOOKS SAKE....... Ha ha I am only joking, glad you got something you liked. i had the Kabar Next Gen tanto, it didnt dissappoint.

 

[Joshua J.]

It's not impossible to get the chemistry charts for INFI, but from what I've heard there's a fair bit more to it than just the alloy.
Plus Busse has pretty much perfected heat treat on top of that.

 

[whateverlikesgadge]

A Fallkniven f1 thats on the list for me at some point.

 

[Bigfattyt]

I am really surprised that in 6 pages, no one has suggested you try out a Busse. I feel it is my duty to point you in the right direction!

A new TankBuster from Busse is not too pricy. Kinda surprising, because it is actually within your originally posted price range, and would make a real work horse. Don't worry too much about the coating. Just use it, and once it gets beat up, strip it and keep on using it.

They are tough, and have THE BEST WARRANTY IN THE BUSINESS.





Ok, all kidding aside,

buy what you want. Busse's proprietary steel is INFI, and no one else can use it. The chemical composition is not a secret. Their heat treat is extensive and time consuming. I think I remember hearing it was 40 hours or something.

Buy what you want. If you ever get the chance to use a few Busse's try them out.

In the price range you are listing, keep an eye out on the custom exchange here. There are some great deals for user's.

I have owned a lot of knives before Busse's, I still own knives that are not Busse's, and I will buy lots of other knives that are not Busse's. But I will always have Busse's for hard use.

Take a look at Scrapyard or Swamprat knives. They are harder to find than some, but are a great hard use value with the same warranty. Forever, passed on with the knife.

Here are some of my favorite makers on here

Siegle, Koster, Bailey, Grossman (sp?), Laccoino (sp?). Lamey, . I know I am missing some of my favorite

 

[Krieger]

Grossman (sp?)

Gossman.

 

[Andros]

Is it fine? Really? You Ok with it?
He stated an opinion.
A man used to be able to have an opinion without a load of people from afar piling on.
HE.....DOESN'T.....WANT.....A.....BUSSE
He has his own reasons, and he's allowed to have them.




Dave

James0723 like everyone else may have his own opinion and act accordingly; no question about it. Since he came to an open forum and expressed it, it is only natural that his opinion may gather either positive or, negative comments.

Now, if he or, you or, anybody else doesn't like Busse knives or any knife brand for that matter is a different story. The way I see it, you don't choose a knife based on whether you like a company's marketing or not but, instead based on the actual performance and abilities of the knives this company makes. When you are 2 days on horse back riding away from civilization, the best marketing in the world won't mean a thing to you. Only the knowledge you have along with your equipment will help you there. That's all there is to it.
As for Busse's, they are knives that are at the top of the food chain.

 

[Andros]

It's not impossible to get the chemistry charts for INFI, but from what I've heard there's a fair bit more to it than just the alloy.
Plus Busse has pretty much perfected heat treat on top of that.

Of course it is: the heat-treatment protocol!