Cliff Stamp
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[framelocks]
The main bulk of current perspective on liners/integrals comes from Swaim, Talmadge and Harvey who did extensive work with the knives, it wasn't based on imaginary constructs but examining the behavior of various models. Swaim worked mainly in the lower end monetary wise, however Joe and Steve both dealt with very high end models at times, easily in the same class as Strider. A lot of Mike's work came from him using knives (fish plant), Joe and Steve tended to have a more self-defence slant and tested locks for suitability from that perspective, something that in general you probably would not want to evaluate in practice.
The problems were never critically in regards to raw strength of the locks, nor in ability of the knives as a whole staying in one piece or issues with play, the latter have little to do with the type of lock. The common problem reported was with security of the locks in regards to sudden loads and torques as well as white knuckling. Joe and Steve were always clear that lots of examples of the knives they examined were very secure in all respects, however that type of lock simply had a much higher defect rate than other types and problems uinque to it.
Interesting that the knives developed pay so shortly, and the fact that you actually had to exert significant force on them while cutting up rags. I have done this at times cutting up bundles of carpet doing renovations and such, and have ran trials at other times making hundreds of cuts with very heavy force as the knives dulled, the knives still have little play. My brother working as a construction worker has the points on his Alantic Salt wore heavily, all rounded down, the knife is still solid vertically. He carried the Manix and Para for months, there are no play issues with them either, the edges and blades as a whole all show extreme wear of course.
-Cliff
talonturbo said:
The main bulk of current perspective on liners/integrals comes from Swaim, Talmadge and Harvey who did extensive work with the knives, it wasn't based on imaginary constructs but examining the behavior of various models. Swaim worked mainly in the lower end monetary wise, however Joe and Steve both dealt with very high end models at times, easily in the same class as Strider. A lot of Mike's work came from him using knives (fish plant), Joe and Steve tended to have a more self-defence slant and tested locks for suitability from that perspective, something that in general you probably would not want to evaluate in practice.
The problems were never critically in regards to raw strength of the locks, nor in ability of the knives as a whole staying in one piece or issues with play, the latter have little to do with the type of lock. The common problem reported was with security of the locks in regards to sudden loads and torques as well as white knuckling. Joe and Steve were always clear that lots of examples of the knives they examined were very secure in all respects, however that type of lock simply had a much higher defect rate than other types and problems uinque to it.
Interesting that the knives developed pay so shortly, and the fact that you actually had to exert significant force on them while cutting up rags. I have done this at times cutting up bundles of carpet doing renovations and such, and have ran trials at other times making hundreds of cuts with very heavy force as the knives dulled, the knives still have little play. My brother working as a construction worker has the points on his Alantic Salt wore heavily, all rounded down, the knife is still solid vertically. He carried the Manix and Para for months, there are no play issues with them either, the edges and blades as a whole all show extreme wear of course.
-Cliff