Canada gets no respect

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Okay, I'm not whining, the thread title was just a ploy to get you to read. But my question is somewhat reflected in the title. I've recently seen a few BG-42 Millies for sale on the Exchange and it got me thinking. Earlier this year I tried to sell a LNIB BG-42 Military here. IIRC, I priced it at ~ $180 CND or about $160 USD with exchange at the time. While I got plenty of trade offers, nobody would commit to a straight-up purchase. Now, the Millies I've seen lately have been going for close to $200 USD, with some even up to and around $230, and one or two of them were even visibly used. And they've been selling, too! I'm wondering why I had so much trouble selling mine, at such a good price and in such excellent condition, when they seem to be snapped up quickly these days at higher prices and some even in worse condition. In your opinion does the fact that I'm in Canada have anything to do with it? Shipping was included in the price, and as far as I know U.S. buyers rarely have their knives taxed when coming from private sellers in Canada. So I can't figure it out. I'd love to hear anyone's--American, Canadian, Martian, whoever--opinions on the matter. Thanks.:)
 
I do think a lot of people don't like dealing with customs at all. It just adds to fears justified or not. I don't think it's as big of an issue bringing a knife into the USA, but I've read some stories about knives not making it into Canada and Australia. Usually because of gravity knife, or flick knife issues. So people read things like that and they tend to be leery all the way around.
 
I guess it could have something to with your... Canadian-ity... I wouldn't mind, except for that it might take a little longer but it sounds like you just had bad timing!
 
Ever since returning here after a few months away, I've noticed the complete lack of consideration for international sales.

I've been burnt by a person in Saudi Arabia, but do not hesitate in dealing with Americans & Canadians.

However, Its rare anyone wants to deal with me.
 
Like it's been said, Canada's knife laws have a reputation. Personally, living in Singapore, I have no option but to buy overseas anyway.
 
Hey Karl, I never had that problem and almost every knife that I sold were to Americans. Like COD1 said it was probably bad timing...Everybody likes Canadians...right!!!! We're so nice(stupid) :)
 
Hmmm, I think people in the U.S. generally have very positive feelings/thoughts towards Canadians and Australians. Sure, we may poke fun at one another from time to time, but we've been allies for a long time and have weathered some tough times together. But us Americans can be somewhat provincial. We have such a huge market that there is rarely any need for us to look outside our own boarders for stuff. A lot of us wouldn't even know how to mail a letter to Canada much less know what laws or regulations (if any) would apply if we bought something from a foreign seller. Sorry you had trouble finding a buyer.
 
What is the US CIF limit if any? FWIW I'm in Singapore and I've sold to US buyers... Selling isn't easy, buying from the US is just a tad easier.
 
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When shipping takes only days and just costs $5-$10 in the states, I'm not surprised.
I doubt I'd shop out of country if Canada had a larger knife using population.
 
I think canadians take alot of joking from us, but im in a trade with a person who lives in canada, although i didnt send him a knife, but hes sending me some, i hope to get them tomorrow, the only reason i would say its a pain, is it takes a bit longer.... sorry you had bad luck selling it, i dont really see a lagit reason for that...
 
You may just have hit a bad time. Like now, people are holding money for Christmas.

I've shipped to other countries, mostly Canada, and gotten shipments from Canada. While there is a bit of paperwork to go through, it's no big deal. I wouldn't hesitate to make a deal just because it was a Canadian on the other side.

On the other hand, anyone with a name like KarlMaldensNose ... ! :eek:
 
I can think of two reasons.

Customs delays fast shipping. I had a Benchmade take three weeks to get to me. I had already thought it was gone and made other arrangements with the seller.

And the other is that most of the best knives come from the United States and stay here, so people usually wait to find what they're looking for here since it's likely. It's cool that people from Canada, Austarlia, and Europe love American knives though.
 
Ever since returning here after a few months away, I've noticed the complete lack of consideration for international sales.

I've been burnt by a person in Saudi Arabia, but do not hesitate in dealing with Americans & Canadians.

However, Its rare anyone wants to deal with me.

Yup, the exchange is becoming all but useless for international members.

I have delt with a few good people who were fine about international sales but
I have had many more knock backs from folks who wanted to keep it in the US.
 
I have always been uneasy about dealing out of country.
However I did my first two this year. One to Russia and the other to Canada.

Both went flawless, but I didn't sleep much until the buyers notified that the shipments had made it o.k.
 
i just sold a bunch of my cheaper knives on ebay, all to the US, so i dunno why you had such a hard time selling, maybe bad timing is all. getting Americans to send it out of the US is a whole other situation though, i dunno how many times i've read "will only ship within US" ...i hate that! hate it hate hate it hate it! i'll see something i want for my collection, the price looks good then boom they hit me with the "no international shipping" ...if it's something i REALLY want i'll have them ship it over to Josh at PVK and he sends them over to me, but that comes with an extra 25$ for the trouble. i've asked a few times "why not!?" and i usually get the "too much trouble with paperwork" ...c'mon now! it's an extra 35 seconds, literally!! 35 seconds to make a little Canuckian happy, that's not asking for much :D
 
i've asked a few times "why not!?" and i usually get the "too much trouble with paperwork" ...c'mon now! it's an extra 35 seconds, literally!! 35 seconds to make a little Canuckian happy, that's not asking for much :D

There's more to it than 35 seconds.
Our Post Offices have long lines and short hours in the USA. On any given day from 4pm to closing at 7pm on weekdays and all day Saturday (only times most working folks can mail parcels), there may be 20-30 people inline (With 2, maybe 3 clerks) which means you stand there for well over an hour just to spend 35 seconds on paperwork.

With a domestic shipment, you can bypass the line, head to a automated kiosk that weighs your package, allows you to purchase insurance and DC, return reciept etc, dispenses your postage and then you walk 5 feet to a giant bombproof box and drop it in. Total time if you know the machine.........60 seconds. INTl Shipments must have postage dispensed by a clerk at the counter.

The other thing with INTL shipments is that although we have good online guides by the USPS regarding INTL shipping, the pages are not easy to find on their webstite. They need a bare bones guide to insurance maximums and restricted items.

Problem 1- I shipped a well-packed parcel to france with a $1200 knife in it. After standing inline for an hour, the USPS tells me they will only insure for $600 to that country.

Problem 2- I had to self-insure half of it.

Problem 3 was that it had to go via a different service to get that $600 insurance.

Problem 4 was I had it in a Priority Mail box and it needed to be repacked in a Express Mail box to get that $600 insurance.

Problem 5- Back home to repack.

Problem 6- Return to the PO and another hour in line with the possibility of having to return the next day because they lock the door at closing time. If your not inside the counter room at closing, your SOL that day.About 20 people can cram in my PO counter room but if you add multiple parcels for each person, multiple screaming kids for each person, you wind up with about 8-10 people wanting to ship and the extras are just taking up space. Of course theres always a few people inline that don't speak English which further delays things.

It's a Royal pain in the arse to ship international!!!!!

Someone asked me just the other day to ship a knife into canada and that it should only cost an extra ten USD via air mail (I was to absorb this cost apparently). I looked it up and the price was $38USD without insurance.

Another issue is double red tape if it goes AWOL intransit. Which countries service lost it? Which customs service, after inspection, did the crappy job retaping it causing the contents to fall out? Who do you see about that?

It's a Royal pain in the arse to ship international!!!!!
 
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The US customs seems to be very fast IMO.

I'm in Canada, have purchased MANY knives from the states, and also have shipped many packages to the states.

Going from Canada to the US: ~4 days.
Going from the US to Canada: ~14 days.

So unless you guys are getting your US-US orders in 3 days or less, I don't think the speed complaint is valid.
 
I had someone offer me a knife in a trade after reading my post in W&SS lamenting on my inability to get one (Due to the maker retiring/taking a break). When I replied to him, I mentioned that I was in Japan. Strangely enough, I never heard back...
Obviously, it's everyone's own personal choice on who to deal or not deal with and I respect this. Nevertheless, it's still disheartening.
 
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