carbon fiber, G10 or ti scales

sabre cat said:
G10 or CF. Both are lighter and allow a better grip.

Full metal scales don't go on a hard use knife, IMO.
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Why do you think metal scales are a no go on hard use knives? I've seen plenty of guys carry and use them. I've used G10 in all types of environments from blistering hot deserts, ice covered mountains to humid jungles and most often gloves are a good choice to have. I've never had nor seen G10 fail but I never seen or used carbon fiber in those conditions. I'm not getting any feed back on carbon fiber from anyone so I'm thinking it must be more of a flashy dress up kind of scale for knives and not a serious working mans material in a knife. As I mentioned earlier I have a ZT with carbon scales and it's a handsome knife for city, home, office soft type of use. My Medford's are full ti and they've performed just as a fixed blade would have, hell I think their stronger than many fixed blades {not all just many}.
 
deerslap said:
Well there wont be an option to switching scales, I'm trying to pick which Grayman Satu to purchase so its between G10, carbon fiber or full ti. I guess I just really want to know if the carbon fiber will hold up on its end. I do live in a cold environment and the knife will not be pampered. I prefer to gut n skin with a fixed 3", 31/2" blades for better control and clean up. Although I've used all types folders n fixed for that job. This knife will be put more to work on cutting n hacking material rather than flesh but the wide belly on the blade will work to skin just fine. Lord knows I've skinned hundreds of deer not to mention everything else that runs in the forest.
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Well, there is one thing. I would say that the titanium would probably outlive you or I, so as a "hand me down knife", that should be considered. If it's reasonably ergonomic (I don't know grayman's apart from what little I gleaned here), why not? As an heirloom, it may be better. Just another thing to consider.
 
deerslap said:
Why do you think metal scales are a no go on hard use knives? I've seen plenty of guys carry and use them. I've used G10 in all types of environments from blistering hot deserts, ice covered mountains to humid jungles and most often gloves are a good choice to have. I've never had nor seen G10 fail but I never seen or used carbon fiber in those conditions. I'm not getting any feed back on carbon fiber from anyone so I'm thinking it must be more of a flashy dress up kind of scale for knives and not a serious working mans material in a knife. As I mentioned earlier I have a ZT with carbon scales and it's a handsome knife for city, home, office soft type of use. My Medford's are full ti and they've performed just as a fixed blade would have, hell I think their stronger than many fixed blades {not all just many}.
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As I understand it, G10 is a very specific form of fibreglass composite, so perhaps one could generalise more readily from anecdotes of others (though that is hardly scientific) as like is probably being compared with like.

Whereas, CF or fibre reinforced plastic is very vague, and not easily comparable from anecdotes, I would say.

It may not matter but I believe G10 is an insulator whereas CF can conduct electricity to some degree.
 
deerslap said:
Why do you think metal scales are a no go on hard use knives? I've seen plenty of guys carry and use them. I've used G10 in all types of environments from blistering hot deserts, ice covered mountains to humid jungles and most often gloves are a good choice to have. I've never had nor seen G10 fail but I never seen or used carbon fiber in those conditions. I'm not getting any feed back on carbon fiber from anyone so I'm thinking it must be more of a flashy dress up kind of scale for knives and not a serious working mans material in a knife. As I mentioned earlier I have a ZT with carbon scales and it's a handsome knife for city, home, office soft type of use. My Medford's are full ti and they've performed just as a fixed blade would have, hell I think their stronger than many fixed blades {not all just many}.
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My dislike of metal scales comes from the experiences I've had with them in hot weather. Sweaty/bloody hands and metal scales are not a safe mix, IMO. So I gave away all my metal handled knives, or so I thought. Then I realized I still owned (and sometimes used) Vic Alox knives. I can't go around telling people not purchase any metal scaled blades if I own them!
Then I would be a hypocrite! So I had to change my standards slightly or part with my SAKs.

At one point in time I would not even consider buying metal scales at all but, I admit, the Alox has done well for very light use. Still, I normally will not consider metal scales for anything but light duty. If gloves are available I might feel different but, I normally don't have leather work gloves with me.
 
sabre cat said:
My dislike of metal scales comes from the experiences I've had with them in hot weather. Sweaty/bloody hands and metal scales are not a safe mix, IMO. So I gave away all my metal handled knives, or so I thought. Then I realized I still owned (and sometimes used) Vic Alox knives. I can't go around telling people not purchase any metal scaled blades if I own them!
Then I would be a hypocrite! So I had to change my standards slightly or part with my SAKs.

At one point in time I would not even consider buying metal scales at all but, I admit, the Alox has done well for very light use. Still, I normally will not consider metal scales for anything but light duty. If gloves are available I might feel different but, I normally don't have leather work gloves with me.
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The Alox SAK scales have a nice texture that adds traction for a reliable grip. So many metal folder scales are smooth and slick; they would be more practical for outdoor use with texturing milled in.
 
I have several G10 scaled folders and all of them needed to be waked up lightly with 100 grit sandpaper. Your Carbon and Titanium options wouldn't have 100 grit option if your unsatisfied with the grip.
 
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deerslap said:
Well there wont be an option to switching scales, I'm trying to pick which Grayman Satu to purchase so its between G10, carbon fiber or full ti. I guess I just really want to know if the carbon fiber will hold up on its end. I do live in a cold environment and the knife will not be pampered. I prefer to gut n skin with a fixed 3", 31/2" blades for better control and clean up. Although I've used all types folders n fixed for that job. This knife will be put more to work on cutting n hacking material rather than flesh but the wide belly on the blade will work to skin just fine. Lord knows I've skinned hundreds of deer not to mention everything else that runs in the forest.
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They use carbon fiber in everything from golf clubs to race cars for almost 40 years at this point, you're not going to be able to kill it on a knife.
 
deerslap said:
Well there wont be an option to switching scales, I'm trying to pick which Grayman Satu to purchase so its between G10, carbon fiber or full ti. I guess I just really want to know if the carbon fiber will hold up on its end. I do live in a cold environment and the knife will not be pampered. I prefer to gut n skin with a fixed 3", 31/2" blades for better control and clean up. Although I've used all types folders n fixed for that job. This knife will be put more to work on cutting n hacking material rather than flesh but the wide belly on the blade will work to skin just fine. Lord knows I've skinned hundreds of deer not to mention everything else that runs in the forest.
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Actually, isn't this knife a frame lock job? One side is Ti already, right? maybe if you're not happy they'll just sell you the other half? Since I seem to sense you want Ti, get the Ti, you can say some random dude on BF said it'd make a better heirloom!
 
I just got a Dua Ti-Ti. The fully stonewashed knife looks really good but it is a bit slick. It doesn't feel like a wet bar of soap but I would have preferred a blasted handle like a Sebenza. I use the Dua as an EDC. For menial, light use I've had issues but if it was going to be used extensively outdoors in wet conditions I might want G10 on it. The Satu is also bigger so the slick handle might prove to be a bigger issue. Whatever you decide, I can say I'm very pleased with my Grayman Dua and will be keeping an eye out for a Satu.

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I've had two DUA's. Good workmanship, very h-d folder, but I could never get comfortable with the location of the index finger/middle finger? cutout...
If you look up two posts, see the difference in the position of the index finger cutout in the Southern Grind...in contrast to the DUA's.
The Southern Grind cutout is MUCH closer to the pivot, and makes it natural to use your index finger in the cutout...which I prefer. I do believe that there are many folks, however, who use that cutout for their middle finger and are very satisfied.
Makes the world go 'round.
:)
 
i would go with CF or G10 b/c TI could get slippery and your hand could slip onto the blade. plus I like G10 and CF better in general
 
spykez said:
Actually, isn't this knife a frame lock job? One side is Ti already, right? maybe if you're not happy they'll just sell you the other half? Since I seem to sense you want Ti, get the Ti, you can say some random dude on BF said it'd make a better heirloom!
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I'm just wanting to see who has actually had carbon fiber on their blades and if it held up or flunked out on them. I like the looks of the carbon but if its gonna go tits up on me in any way ill pass. I know G10 will hold true, through my experiences anyway but I'm just looking for pros n cons. Hell Ill just call Grayman and ask them how their scales have been holding up. I know carbon fiber is strong and most likely will not fail when the balloon goes up, I'm fishing for the stories when it did. If it does fail Grayman will make it right. It just boils down to what I think is the most eye appealing I guess since I haven't heard any horror stories yet on any of the different scales.
 
Wow, as popular as CF is I'm surprised to see so much in favor of full ti. While G10 offers better purchase I also think that there is nothing else like the feel of full ti in the hand.
 
cut it out said:
I have both Ti-Ti and G-10, love Grayman's!!!! Either way you will want to get the one you don't get first lol. I like the G-10 for winter and the Ti in warmer seasons. Even the DLC side feels warmer than the tumbled Ti handles. http://[URL=http://s655.photobucket.com/user/RUTTINGBULL/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2E78ACEA-7E87-402A-9765-E3AC2CDE7CE4.jpg.html][/URL]
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You are exactly right without a doubt! It always happens like that especially with the higher priced ones.
 
Lol. No doubt. What I love about the Dua is it takes the best parts of the Strider and the Sebenza and put them together to make a Super knife.
 
cut it out said:
Lol. No doubt. What I love about the Dua is it takes the best parts of the Strider and the Sebenza and put them together to make a Super knife.
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Yes I can see the similarity in knives for sure. I have four Striders and love em but never got a Sebenza. That Dua is next in line and that, I will get in carbon fiber, it'll be my church knife. My curse is I believe in having two of everything, matching sets if possible. Ill keep looking for that "keeper" but until then Ill just keep buying. Now how much fun is that
 
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