"Carl's Lounge" (Off-Topic Discussion, Traditional Knife "Tales & Vignettes")

... my all time favorite was the Helm series by Donald Hamilton. Helm loved a good knife. It gave a whole new meaning to the words hard boiled. :thumbup::D

Carl.

Sounds great. If you had to pick two or three Helm titles for a newbie to read, what would they be? I have a four-day weekend getaway coming up and hopefully will get to spend some quality time in the evenings with my Kindle and a little of the brown stuff from Scotland in a glass.

-- Mark
 
Sounds great. If you had to pick two or three Helm titles for a newbie to read, what would they be? I have a four-day weekend getaway coming up and hopefully will get to spend some quality time in the evenings with my Kindle and a little of the brown stuff from Scotland in a glass.

-- Mark

If you can possibly find them, the first couple kind of set up the rest. The very first, " Death Of A Citizen" explains how Helm got to un-retire from peaceful civilian life and got back in the remover business. Like a lot of these kind of books, there are re-occuring charaters both good and bad, and in between.

"The Wrecking Crew", is the second book, and follows Helm's transition back into government service. From then on, the body count just goes up. This ain't a guy you want to be on the other side of the fence from.

I don't know if the author, Donald Hamilton is still alive, but one of the sad things in life was the end of the Matt Helm series. Like author Robert Parker and his Spencer charater, these were protagonists that the everyman could identify with. Unlike Ian Fleming's Bond, there were no high end cars, ( Helm's favorite vehicle was his old Chevy pickup) no weird weapons from the lab ( Helm muddled through with an issue S&W 5 shot .38 revolver and his pocket knife) or high living, just unremarkable motels along the road.

Carl.
 
If you can possibly find them ...

Very prescient. :( The Kindle only offers one Donald Hamilton title and it's not a Matt Helm book.

Like author Robert Parker and his Spencer character, these were protagonists that the everyman could identify with. Unlike Ian Fleming's Bond, there were no high end cars, ( Helm's favorite vehicle was his old Chevy pickup) no weird weapons from the lab ( Helm muddled through with an issue S&W 5 shot .38 revolver and his pocket knife) or high living, just unremarkable motels along the road.

Carl.

Have you read any of the Travis McGee books by John D. MacDonald? McGee is definitely cut from this cloth as well.

-- Mark
 
I live in a suburb of Ft. Lauderdale and my mother-in-law always goes on and on about Travis McGee when she sees area landmarks like Pier 66. I'm going to have to borrow a couple of those books from her.
 
I may as well go check out some Travis McGee books. Since we're thinking of selling the old homestead in Maryland and moving to the gulf coast of Florida, it may give me some perspective on living on house boats.

Carl.
 
I may as well go check out some Travis McGee books. Since we're thinking of selling the old homestead in Maryland and moving to the gulf coast of Florida, it may give me some perspective on living on house boats.

Carl.

The Travis McGee books run from the mid sixties to the mid eighties. You can watch Florida change over those years.

Trav won his houseboat in a poker game. I don't know if you play... :p
 
I'm a suburbanite through and through. I like backyards and manicured lawns and nice, comfortable houses. But I enjoy the outdoors and once in a while want to get out into the wide, open spaces. It's been hard to do so because of my young daughter. Outdoor activities and a 20-month-old don't exactly go hand-in-hand. But recently I made some time. I was at home recently when I noticed that my daughter absolutely squeal with delight when she saw Elmo on tv. Don't get me wrong, I think Sesame Street is great. I remember watching it myself when I was a kid. But I don't want my baby girl to be the type of kid who derives her pleasure from the tube. I want her to be the type of person who experiences the world firsthand, not through Sony. So I figured that it was time I introduced this youngster to Mother Nature.

Fortunately there is a good-sized regional park a few minutes away from my house. Nothing too spectacular, but there is lots of open space with trees, grassland, rolling hills and a few animals like lizards, squirrels, and even coyotes, rattlesnakes, and mountain lions. I loaded up the pack with a few essentials and was soon enjoying a leisurely walk.

My daughter really enjoyed herself. I think she really liked the different environment she found herself in, as she took her time taking everything in. She moved at a very relaxed pace, and seemingly checked everything out. Normally she's a hellion. Here's a few pics of the things that got her attention.

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Gratuitous knife shot
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I learned a few things today.

1. It's wonderful watching a child experience things for the first time. She was fascinated with things that I barely notice. I'm not just talking about the obvious stuff like birds chirping. She noticed everything -- like lizards, and even spiders on the ground. She even stopped to listen to leaves rustle during a breeze.

2. There is no such thing as packing light when you have a little one in tow. Normally I'd have a few things like a knife, water, snack, and maybe a sweater. Now I have to make sure I bring enough water and food for me and my kid, as well as diapers and warm clothes.

3. Even a two-hour hike is tiring when a kid is involved. I was proud of my daughter when were walking. She was a trooper, she walked and didn't whine at all. But she wanted to be carried on the way back. I was definitely feeling it by the time we got back to the car.

4. Those Finns are on to something. My normal nature walk knife, is a stag handled Blackjack. I decided to bring my Ahti Juhla instead. I'm not a big fan of puukkos because I prefer convex ground or flat ground blades, but toting this Ahti is effortless. I love how I don't have to remove the sheath from my belt when I'm in my car, I can simply position it out of the way. And the entire package (knife and sheath) weighs less than a Buck 110. It's definitely a keeper.

We had a great time. I can understand why so many of you guys spend so much of your time outdoors. Hopefully she continues to enjoy these types of activities, it's great father/daughter time.
 
Christian, there's nothing like getting a child out in nature!:thumbup::thumbup:

As each one of my own children reached toddler age, they were taken out in the woods and fields. I truly believe that a child has a natural curiosity and wants to look at each new stimulus. Keep subjecting them to it, and they will grow to love it as they mature, and are able to go farther afield in time. A nice by product is that as they grow up going on hikes and camp outs, they will be used to the tools used, like knives. All my kids by the time they reached the teen years had their own knife to carry on family outings.

Nature- it keeps kids from becoming mall rats!

Carl.
 
Excellent post about your daughter, my son is the same way. My boy just enjoys looking at everything, he is bored to tears in the house and as soon as we get outside he gets quiet and very curious. Its a great thing to do for your family not just with them.
 
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My girls love to go camping. They're not prissy at all. Their favorite thing is when they can take the machete and go off in the woods alone.
 
For a while now I've been reading member Jacknife's stories, and admiring the one knife old timers getting by with what they had. And i wanted to be just like them. I started carrying an altoid tins with fishing tackle, and a little traditional pocket knife. I wanted a peanut, and a sodbuster, and all different knifes i heard about old timers getting by on. Now don't get me wrong, theres nothing wrong with collecting knives, but you could say i was getting overzealous with being simplistic. I was stropping my Kamp King, and realized that the scout pattern happened to be my favorite. I realized that it wasn't about a peanut, it wasn't about what those legendary men got by with, it was about how those legendary men got by with what they had. Just thought i'd share.
 
For a while now I've been reading member Jacknife's stories, and admiring the one knife old timers getting by with what they had. And i wanted to be just like them.

(snip)

I realized that it wasn't about a peanut, it wasn't about what those legendary men got by with, it was about how those legendary men got by with what they had. Just thought i'd share.

Good share!:thumbup:

No, it was never about a peanut, or a sodbuster, or a stockman. It was an insight into the man who carried it. It was about another time, where a man didn't have a knife collection, or had to choose which one he was going to carry, or what selection of new cutting edge gear he had collected. It was about a simpler time, and simpler individuals, who made do with what they had, because they could. They didn't have forums to ask " what knife for..." because the very question was not needed. They had a knife. That was enough, with their knowledge of how to get it done. They lived life.

Carl.
 
Thanks for sharing your adventures with your kids guys.

Carl, this probably doesn't surprise you, but this little girl already owns a few knives. She hasn't taken possession of them obviously, but I've set some aside for when she gets older.

I underestimated the extent of a child's curiousity. This one is fascinated by everything, and that's both good and bad. I have to be vigilant about what she's exposed to. Not only is she familiar with the tv, she's already learning to play games on IPhones. She's definitely part of the phenomenon that sociologists term "plugged-in." It is going to be a continuing challenge to keep this one interested in the outdoors. Should be fun and I look forward to it.

- Christian
 
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My girls love to go camping. They're not prissy at all. Their favorite thing is when they can take the machete and go off in the woods alone.

What part of Florida are you in?

Looks like good canoe territory, what is exactly what we love to do. I ask because Karen and I are very seriously thinking of moving to the gulf coast either the Sarrasota or Clearwater area.

Carl.
 
Carl: That part of Florida has GREAT canoe possibilities. Anywhere from Arcadia up to Clearwater and east into the Glades. Besides mom and dad, that's I miss most about Florida.

-- Mark
 
Carl: That part of Florida has GREAT canoe possibilities. Anywhere from Arcadia up to Clearwater and east into the Glades. Besides mom and dad, that's I miss most about Florida.

-- Mark

Canoeing in Florida is great, I went in 05 to Gainesville and not sure how far out but we went canoeing in the interior and saw heaps of deer and of course I had to fall in near a gator losing 10 years off my life!!! :(
 
What part of Florida are you in?

Looks like good canoe territory, what is exactly what we love to do. I ask because Karen and I are very seriously thinking of moving to the gulf coast either the Sarrasota or Clearwater area.

Carl.


I live near Ft. Lauderdale. Those pictures were taken at Fisheating Creek (near Palmdale FL, off highway 27) which is 100 miles from my house.
 
Christian, great post about your daughter. I have a 26 month old son who is the same way when he sees Elmo or Mickey. I try to take him outfront, and to the playground as much as possible, but I've been a little leary about taking him to the near by state park, as he's pretty rambunctious, and has a tenancy to take off running. After seeing your post, I think I'll give it a go this Sunday. It's funny, there's so many things that I enjoy doing outdoors, but just never really seem to get around to doing for lack of time, or just laziness. I really think that having a little one to teach will really push me to find more time for these things. I can't wait to get out there with him and start making memories.

Spongebobby, I can totally relate to your post. It's amazing how much time, money and effort can be spent trying to emulate the men that we admire for their simple ways. It's kind of an oxymoron. I think that while I will always admire their ways, I've come to terms with the fact that I am who I am, and that is a product of my era, just as they were a product of theirs. I think the main thing about these men is that they were "doers". The didn't sit around obsessing over that they carry in their pockets, they didn't have time to, they were to busy doing whatever it is that they did. That's what we should take from them. It doesn't matter whether your carrying a Case stockman or a Spyderco delica, or if your carrying a candy tin full of fishing tackle or an iphone.
 
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well, after looking at some of the suggestions given I ran by the used book store and picked up a couple of Robert Parker books
Appaloosa and Nights Passage (which i believe is the first Jesse Stone novel)

might be awhile before I get to them (Reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance at the moment) but i'll be sure to post my thoughts when i finish them
 
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