carrying a fixed blade

2dogs said:
Doc I wish we could think of a knife as a tool but around here that just isn't the reality. Mexican gangs have made he possesion of any knife nearly a crime itself. Stabbings are routine, shots fired occur nearly every night in our county. Staying below the radar makes sense to me.
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I hear you 2dogs, but context enters into it. I'm talking about out in the woods, not on city streets. I also agree that staying below the radar makes sense (see previous post). I think you have to be careful, though, that it doesn't look like you're trying to conceal a weapon.

Maybe that's one of the benefits of becoming an old geezer - you're usually not viewed with as much suspicion as you might have been 40 years ago. :D

Doc
 
I did not mean what I said in an "in your face" sorta way. It is simply that I do not worry to not "offend" when I am in the woods. I do not go out of my way to scare anyone and would not suggest that. I do however get a chuckle when folks ask me for directions on a trail then notice the knife.....I go from "friend on the trail" to Jason Vorhees without doing anything other than being properly prepared for my environment.
 
You can strap the knife to the bottom/underneith of your pack. It's less visible there and yet easily accessed if needed.
 
There is one thing that is not discussed here yet, the combination HOW and WHAT. What you carry and how you carry it.

Lets say you have a 4" fixed. A not very uncommon size knife.
Example 1: you carry it upside down on your left shoulder strap in a combat looking sheath.
Example 2: you carry it in a sami looking leather dangler in your belt by your right back pocket.
In both examples you are dressed for the occasion, green pants, boots, outdoor clothes.
In example one people will see a big combat looking rambo knife in the hands of a military nutcase. In the second example they will hardly notice it because it is a part of the outdoor clothing.

Over here in Sweden the police consider things like what, where, when, how. It is also the conception of the public. even a cheap Mora clone can be considered "dangerous" if in the wrong place (like in the chest of our foreign minister years ago).

Saturday mornings about every fifth customer in the food store is carrying knives in plain view. They are also dressed in hunting clothes or carpenters clothes and then a knife is a natural part of the outfit. They are mostly Mora clones on the right thigh (in the knifepocket on the workers pants) or sami looking ones in leather danglers.

One idea is that you carry a 3-4" hand made looking knife in a leather sheath in your belt and your super combat stealth knife in your pack. I doubt that people will even notice that you are carrying the knife and you will be able to use it easily and the police will not bug you for hiding it, if they even bother.

Good luck.
 
Once I'm more than a click into the woods, my blade goes on my belt. Most sheeple who walk in the woods give up before they go this far. Once I'm in the woods if I see anybody else I'm guessing they into the whole "big outdoors" and would expect you to carry a blade, as long as it's not some tactial Rambo dagger.

Skip the tactical dress wear when your show a blade and I don't think you going to get odd looks.
 
DOC-CANADA said:
Bill, respectfully, I disagree. It's not good! Those city slickers, if concerned enough, can help enact even harsher knife-carrying restrictions. I'm not saying that we shouldn't carry them, even in plain site, but we don't have to make it an in-your-face- experience for them. (Of course, I'm not saying that you're suggesting that.)

Doc
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Sorry, its feel good thinking like that ....that gets us in trouble in the first place. :(

It's not about an in-your-face experience. It's about people minding their own damn business and the last thing we need is idiots making even more stupid laws on things they have little to no understanding on.

A Knife is a tool like any other. If they have an issue with a fixed blade on someones belt they should have stayed in the city to begin with.
 
I remove everything from the RAT-3 sheath and put it in my front pocket. It is very thin and you won't know it is there untill you need it.
 
All I got to say is be careful when you conceal that FB. If you get caught in a situation you can get concealed weapon charges put against you.

I perfer to keep it out in the open on my shoulder strap, belt or in my pack. I always carry a folder in my pocket like my OHT. I have walked around my campsites here in NJ with a Rat7 on my belt in plain view and nobody said anything. Maybe I haven't found the right person to push the issue or I got lucky. Chances are, that if it looks like a combat knife and the LEOs see that you don't have a good reason to have it. They will question you and take it, at least here in NJ.

Nobody ever questions my mora though.:confused:
 
I'm becoming increasingly thankful that I live where I do.

Also, if you don't live in a communistic state, why not just get your concealed carry permit?
 
Out here in the Dakota's, it doesn't raise an eyebrow to see a person wearing a knife.
 
Carrying a fixed blade is what I do, so I do not give it even a second thought.
 
If people want to give faces about a knife, they should be more worried about the one cliped on my pocket 'cause I can draw that one a lot quicker. My emerson commander is in my hand ready to go in just one smooth motion from my pocket to action position. At least with a fixed blade they can see how big it is and if you are trying to reach for it. They should feel more comfortable knowing what and where your knife is rather than "does he have a knife or not?" Here in good old Texas, almost everybody carries a knife, just not inside the cities, then that is where the EDC pocket clip knives come in. I belive we are allowed to carry a fixed blade up to 5" as long as we are not in the city.
 
"12020 (4) Carries concealed upon his or her person any dirk or dagger.
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(24) As used in this section, a "dirk" or "dagger" means a knife or other instrument with or without a handguard that is capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death. A nonlocking folding knife, a folding knife that is not prohibited by Section 653k, or a pocketknife is capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death only if the blade of the knife is exposed and locked into position.
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25(d) Knives carried in sheaths which are worn openly suspended from the waist of the wearer are not concealed within the meaning of this section."
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2dogs: I am aware of the "ready use as a stabbing weapon" part, but it seems to be more geared towards defining what a dirk or dagger is, which would include fixed blades and folding blades with the blade locked open. It seems to be giving a case for when a folding knife is considered a concealed weapon if the blade is locked open, so therefore a fixed blade is always considered a concealed weapon because it is in a configuration that it is always readily able to be used as a stabbing weapon.

I could see were your lawyer could argue that since it was in the bottom of your bag, it is not ready to be used as a stab implement, but that may or may not work. I could strap a knife to my thigh underneath my pants and make the same argument, since my jeans are tight, that it is not easy for me to access the knife, but I guarantee you I would get convicted for carrying a concealed weapon. I see were your argument could and should work, but given the wrong judge and arresting officer you could get convicted anyway.

Maybe I don't know the law as well as you do, but from looking at the penal code I would rather have my knife on my belt than have an LEO and judge misinterpret the intent of the law, and throw me in jail.

I didn't know if you had ever read the penal codes, that's why I pointed it out, no need to get defensive. There are a lot of misconceptions about California law, especially when it comes to knives and guns, even LEOs don't always know the laws, it's hard to know who has actually read the laws, and who hasn't, that's why I pointed it out.
 
David E said:
These first two posts are why I refuse to "live" in Kalifornia or NYC !!

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Well said David.

Up here I laugh when I see someone with out a GUN on there side, knowing one day this sheep might make a Bear turd. Knives, everyday carry 4"-10", when I'm not walking down a sidewalk in town. I don't feel I need one of my bigger knives to open a box or bag, or sharpen a carpenters pencil (replacement tips).
I can't believe how everyone is refusing to stand up for your right to carry. Why do we have to bend over, cause we might OFFEND some little city slicker piece of crap?:mad::mad::mad: They can go back to there urban jungle and ROT. They can go sit on there park bench and leave the woods to upstanding real Americans who still believe in the constitution and the basic rights of man. To hell with the liberal bastards. The next time you vote, ask the person running about there views on knives. Starting changing there mind set, NOT you changing your mind set for them.

Rant-off
 
RussMo: Where is "up here"?

Actually, by county, the majority of California is Red, but it just so happens that the majority of the California population lives in the Blue counties. If only each county could cast a vote instead of each individual, LA, SF, and SD would only count for 3 votes.

I do what I can to promote education about knives and guns, but it's a lot of work to reverse the years of brainwashing that our lovely government and media have caused.

Someday...........
 
I carry a CS Master Hunter or SRK in the woods along with a .38 snubbie or Ruger MKII. Everyone seems pretty friendly to me....
 
stingray4540 said:
RussMo: Where is "up here"?

Actually, by county, the majority of California is Red, but it just so happens that the majority of the California population lives in the Blue counties. If only each county could cast a vote instead of each individual, LA, SF, and SD would only count for 3 votes.

I do what I can to promote education about knives and guns, but it's a lot of work to reverse the years of brainwashing that our lovely government and media have caused.

Someday...........
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Hey stingray,

**Anchorage, Alaska**

The other day I was down in Hope, Alaska walking around, and I see this ole boy get out of his truck with an approx 8"er on his hip, and I thought, " it is good to be an American". I was over in Germany back in the 70's and 80's, and couldn't wait to get back to the world. The restrictions those poor bastards live under. They can't fart without a permit. We take so much for granted, and these slick liped bastards are shaking hands with us and stabbing us in the back at the same time. We as Americans just need to take our country back, and tell the scum to be an American, or get out, or even, just shut the F@#& up. Just because someone has money doesn't mean they can't be scum either. Hell, look at Hillary.

Kinda like, "just why the hell do I have to press 1 for english". Speak English or get out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vacationing is ok, then leave.

I better not say anymore, this will have to go to a political thread. It's just one Americans opinion, and I still love my country.
 
I would feel awkward without a fixed blade, or carrying just a folder! :D I have enough stuff in my pockets as it is. In this country, it would be odd to see someone out in the woods without a fixed blade on their belt, so perhaps there is a cultural difference. Although I have a hard time fathoming how fixed blades could be frowned upon in the woods, in a country where you can legally carry folders in the cities - which is something you, in theory, cannot do over here.
 
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