Carrying a POS so you don't lend out your good ones?

ok, let's get some things straight here: lending your knife to someone else is only OK, if......:

-you trust the person
-you trust the person with a knife
-it's family
-it's a friend
-or close relative, whatever...
-that person knows that you pack
-..and more stuff in that same vein..

having given it some more thought, i mostly agree with eric-425, if you trust the person with your knife, or even make a comment beforehand ("hey, that's sharp! and if you break it, you buy it!!", and if you pry with it mess up the edge you owe me bigtime!"......), then it should be OK to lend a knife, even a $400-knife. i trust my brothers with my knife, i trust my dad with my knife, i somewhat trust my mom with a knife..... :p ..i'll keep a close eye though if abuse is being prepared :) .

but, a complete stranger on the streets? "got a knife or scissors for me to borrow".......yeah right, i don't think so! (or "i ain't got no knife, move along please!"). some people who live in the same street where i live, which i only trust on a shallow level, meaning i don't really trust them because i don't know them........, should they ask for a knife to use, then it's "i ain't got no knife" again to them. and should they respond with "but, yesterday i saw you opening your letters at the mailbox with it", then it's still "i don't have a knife!".

it's all about trust and competence in use to the person at hand. some people you don't even want to know that you're packing...etc....etc.....

dennis

PS. FRN screams "beater", but so does G10, and stainless steel. now, carbon fiber and micarta, that's a different story. ;)
 
Danzz said:
Although the Scallion really makes people jump when they don't expect the assisted opening, and NO ONE I've ever lent it to can figure out how to close it. Its a liner lock, people!

I find it best to give the lendee a short "how to lesson" if the knife has an unusual opening or closing method. Assisted openers and autos can be dangerous if the user is not expecting the blade to fly open. There is a thread titled, "ever cut yourself at a knife show" (something like that) where a forum member tried to open an assisted opener with the thumb stud rather than the kicker. He ended up slicing his finger trying to "follow" the blade as it opened. While liner locks may be standard for knife people, non knife people may have a hard time with it.
 
i usually carry a douk douk, which is an unexpensive knife but not a POS, so it's not a problem lending it !

it's not a nice design, but sharp as razor !

for info
http://images.google.fr/imgres?imgu...=1&prev=/images?q=doukdouk&hl=fr&lr=&ie=UTF-8

giantdouks.jpg
 
agony said:
I never lend my primary EDC.

I carry a simple SAK that I could lend if needed.

I carry my tinker everywhere as well as my SOG powerlock. They are always in need at the job and I have no problem with it.

However, any expencive folder or whatever will stay in my pocket or on my belt until I need it. :D
 
stevekt said:
Assisted openers and autos can be dangerous if the user is not expecting the blade to fly open.

That's the point! I want them to have respect and caution when using one of my knives, and I do warn them that "it opens fast". It keeps the inexperienced user's mind on what he is doing with the knife, rather than dozing off and cutting himself anyway.
Watching someone who has never held a knife before trying to figure out how to close a liner lock is purely entertaining, but you'd think that an (otherwise) intelligent person could figure out the mechanism in less than a minute.
 
Danzz, so true! I once handed an open liner lock to my supervisor (a very intelligent senior non-commissioned officer) and asked her to figure out how to close it. After two minutes she gave up. :eek: Some people just aren't mechanically inclined.
 
I generally do no let anyone use my knives. I have noticed that your average person is usually not capable of using a knife in a safe and non-abusive manner. If I let someone use my knife at work, and they end up cutting themselves, I'm the one that is going to get in trouble. If I do let someone use my knife, I stand there and watch them while they use it. Most of the time I will give them a SAK or my multi tool instead of one of my good knives.

There is really no excuse for not carrying a knife, so I just laugh when I see others struggling with packages, etc.
 
Allways...Two or three in fact...Most humans can't seem to distinguish the difference between knife, screw driver or tin snips... Very sad.
 
Don't forget knives with sentimental value. I know that Eric considers his knives as tools only, but to some people knives are very special objects. I remember reading about one of the forumites here lending out the stockman his grandfather carried. The borrower promptly broke the tip of one of the blades when he used the knife as a prybar. How in the world can you replace your grandfather's knife?
 
I have the Black Out and Commander in the same pocket. Both are equally as sharp. Both hold the edge rather well. But for now, my Blackout is spotless, while my commander is beaten up. So I lend the commander out.
 
I had our supply order me a box of folding razor knives, the ones issued to the military survival kits. There were fifty in the box and I presented each of my co-workers one, telling them now there was no reason to borrow a knife from any other co-worker, including me.
So, when they ask to borrow a knife, I remind them of the folding razor knife I gave 'em, then watch them look around like it's going to appear out of thin air...,after a brief pause, I just make the cut for them.
 
shaldag said:
the idiot decided to see "how sharp it was" and ended up slicing his finger to the bone.
:rolleyes:

I hate driving people to the emergency room.

So how long did you laugh?

Anyway, I have a pretty cheap Gerber that I use as a POS. It's pretty close to a POS, but it does the job well enough. And I have a TOPS Prairie Fox that I managed to chip (Grr... dropped it and it landed just wrong on the floor...) the tip off of... same duty. My EDC is going to be a Spyderco Centofante III, and NO ONE is touching it... I mean no one. I'm too poor and too cheap to let anybody play with my pride and joy... um... that's really kind of pathetic. Never thought about it that way. I'm a retard.
 
my BM 551 grip is the general use cut everything borrowed knife... the rest nobody uses but me.
 
I don't carry rubbish-it would ruin my reputation ;)
I generally won't let anyone use my knives unless they are a good friend and aware of how sharp they are. Most NKP have no idea how sharp steel can actually get. The only experience they have is years old kitchen knives (never sharpened since purchase!) or boxcutters, which can be nasty but are generally small blades.
Good idea though-it wouldn't hurt to slip an Opinel in my pocket too.
 
From now on, if someone wants to borrow my knife, or if someone even asks if I have one, I'm going to say "No...what is it that you want to cut?"

Last summer, I was hanging out at my buddy's place, with a couple of his employees, and one of them asked, "Does anyone have a knife?" Of the four of us, I'm the only one known for carrying a knife (or several) all of the time. I wasn't as picky back then, as I've learned, from this incident, to be. Getting the "peer pressure" treatment, I handed over my oldest, most carried knife, not one that I'd call a POS, an Uncle Henry LB-7 lockback. I handed this guy my knife and he opened it, then he used the tip to switch-on a radio-controller for his RC airplane!

He's a big guy and his fingers cannot fit into the indent where the on/off switch resides...but, because I didn't think to ask what he was going to use my knife for, there I was, handing my knife over for him to abuse the tip! My buddy lives on 33 acres of a former farm, with about 2/3 of it made up of wooded land...if I'd known that his employee was going to use my knife in such a way, I'd have sent him off looking for a frigging twig to use! Maybe he knows that he misuses knives and therefore doesn't carry one of his own? I wish that I'd known!

I think that everyone should carry a knife, full-time, and then they can use/abuse it however they like. I just worry about what people who might need a knife will do, if no one is around that they can borrow a knife from, in their "time of need." They'll probably be "up a crick without a paddle."

GeoThorn
 
I work for a very small company (25 employees) and everyone either has their own EDC, or atleast knows how to use a knife safely. That said, I still don't loan out my EDC, but I'm always glad to loan out my truck knife if someone left theirs at home.
 
This question always gets my attention, usually chills my blood, and arouses my suspicions.

I stop whatever I am doing, and stare right at them, through suspicious, half-slitted eyes. "What do you want to cut?" :eek:

They innocently a$$-u-me my expensive Sebenza is their free prybar/screwdriver/chisel!

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Let them eat cake.
 
Regularly. I am continually amazed at how ignorant some people are when it comes to proper use of a knife. And they know that I have one and ask to borrow mine.
 
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