Carrying an izula while running.

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Also I would like to clear something up, I DON'T want this thread to turn into a pissing match. I DON'T carry the izula just for protection from animals.

No intention to turn it into a one.

As for me - never tried running with something like a knife on my neck. Usually even a car key I keep in my hand. One thing comes to mind immediately - I sweat a lot when run (ruined an e-vent jacket recently with sweat contamination :( ), so not sure how that would work with a knife on my chest. Any problems with skin irritation or something along those lines?
 
I keep my izula in my right front pocket, never tried running with it as a neck knife. I would probably find it annoying swinging back and forth and would probably have to make a break-away strap just in case it get's caught on something it wouldn't clothes line me. I let my izula sit in a jar of vinegar so it would develop a patina so with a coating + a patina on what blade steel was showing I'm not too concerned about it developing rust. Also the post above about this thread turning argumentative was not directed towards you, since the first page it appeared the thread was taking a fall for the worse and I didn't want any of the mods to have to work harder than they already do so I decided to stop the problem before it blossomed.
 
I carry my Counter Tac I while i run, but ofcourse in it's sheath. I carry it in the same hand where my keys are held, also i carry the knife so that it is almost flush as my forearm. On my right hand i carry water, so i'm fully loaded.
 
I am a MAN! I am not metro-sexual! I carry a knife EVERYWHERE i go! I don't need a reason, I don't need an excuse. If i am attacked by ANYTHING, i will stand my ground. I would rather have any knife, than nothing at all. And NO, it will not be taken away from me and shoved up my arse--because i am a man!

In one of my old "Blade" magazines, there is a story about a Canadian farmer, who fought and killed a bear with his pocket knife. Few years ago there was a camper in Calif. attacked by cougar,wife killed it with a kitchen knife. In my town, 2 years ago, the bank president had to wrestled his Dachshund from a coyote, in broad daylight. It didn't end up coyote poop, like Jessica Simpson's dog.

Sorry, no apology for the rant.
 
I let my izula sit in a jar of vinegar so it would develop a patina so with a coating + a patina on what blade steel was showing I'm not too concerned about it developing rust.

I actually boiled a knife (not izula though) in vinegar and let it sit there.

Ok, I can not carry anything in shorts pockets while running - it will be too uncomfortable and chances are I will lose it trail running. In winter I usually run in a base layer and a light soft shell or a light rain jacket. I thought that neck knife under base layer (which is fairly tight) would keep it in place from swinging, no?
 
Why the hell do you need a knife while you're running?

Why not?

I'm kind of along the same lines as you on this one. If you're getting mugged, better to flee or talk your way out of it and just give them your possessions. If you can't, then it's better to have a belt fed machine gun than a knife.

This flawed logic comes up all the time. Sure, a belt-fed machine gun woudl be better, but since that is both an unreasonable and idiotic suggestion, a knife will have to suffice.

I can buy that, but don't you think an Izula is a bit too big for that purpose? I mean, there are plenty of smaller folders with pocket clips that would suit that need better.

I have a number of folders much larger than th eIzula. It is a small, fairly lightweight blade. HWP mentioned CPR and the like. I would much rather be using a fixed blade. It won't get as much crap stuck in it. I don't run but I bike in an area with alot of traffic. There are also alot of wrecks. If I see one you can be sure that I will stop and help out. If necessary, the Izula provides a decent fixed blade to cut seat belts, etc. Not saying it happens every day, but to insist that it cannot happen is foolish.

Give me an example of "something" that you would need to defend yourself against please.

Person, dog, coyote, velociraptor...it doesn't matter. Having a blade is a whole lot better than not having one.

I'm not debating the "need" or preference for carrying a blade while jogging, hiking or what have you. I'm asking why one would bring an Izula for the purpose of jogging.

First I questioned the rather large size of the Izula for jogging, if all you need is a blade in case of emergencies or whatever. It's not like you need to build a shelter or stop to carve a totem pole when you're out jogging.

Secondly, I find it truly intriguing and I'm eager to hear what type of animal one would imagine fending off with an Izula, when a blade would be necessary or even just a luxury while doing so.

:rolleyes:
 
Plus the Izulas size isnt that big.....ALOT of folders are heavier. I dont own any lightweight folders....Well actually all I own is a couple SAKs....Untill the RAT folder comes out.

Of course there are folders that weigh as little as the Izula! It's physical and sheathed format however, is longer than any normal folder (folded) because it is a fixed blade. The Izula's 17.5cm compared to the 14cm of a Spyderco Police3, for instance, which is quite a difference; especially since the effective blade length of the Izula is around 6.5cm whereas the Police has 10cm. In addition, the overall length of the Izula is around 16cm while the Police is a whopping 25cm! You can use a lot more thrust and you have immensely more control with a Police than with a Izula, when it comes to fighting. The weapon of choice for defense should be a no-brainer in that case, but it obviously isn't apparent to most that a short blade isn't preferable for fighting.

stoffi,

The large size of the Izula is a pro for running, it doesn't bounce around as much, and it is lighter than some folders I own. When it comes to animals, I'm pretty confident a stick in the ribs would deter most vicious animals, but of course that would be among the last resorts. Unfortunately most "vicious" animals are peoples pets, I don't know how many times I have had dogs nipping at my heels, early today is was a danged poodle.

By stick in the ribs I was talking about inserting said knife into the side of the animal, if a stab in the ribs doesn't discourage the animal then there's a good chance I wouldn't walk away from the situation, and at least I attempted to defend myself, better than not having the knife on me.

Well yes, a dog nipping at your feet is not a threat. However, the Izula isn't long enough to ensure sufficient damage if it was, so I wouldn't bet my life on it. You're better off kicking a dog or clubbing it than trying to stick it with a Izula. A longer blade would be preferable if you wanted to stick it, although a dog would probably bite your knife hand. Man, I loved watching my old German Shorthair fight venomous snakes. Snakes are fast, but he dodged their attacks like Mike Tyson. Sure, he got bit a few times, but that didn't stop him. By the way, many of you guys should check out some clips on pitbulls fighting to the death after having been shot several times by the Police. Might give ya'll some perspective on the matter. I mean, do people really think they can stop a bear or a cougar with a Izula?! Hahaha! They are killers by nature, for crying out loud! What are we? Oh sure, some of us are ex special forces, martial artist etc. I would still not stand a chance against a bear and especially not with a Izula. Full-grown bears weigh a minimum of 65kg and it ranges up to 750kg. A pit weighs in at around 10-50kg and they'll kill you 3 times over before the endorphins fade away.

Just clip the knife to your waist if the bouncing is bothering you.


There was a story not too long ago of a bow hunter who was walking down a trail, all of a sudden a bear charged him (I believe the report said Grizzly) the man did not have enough time to raise his bow and the bear took him to the ground. The hunter managed to reach into his quiver and pull out an arrow, he then proceeded to stab the arrow into the bear's throat. The bear ran off and the hunter lived to hunt another day.

An arrow is obviously a lot longer than a Izula. The bear's neck is very thick. Do the math.

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Also I would like to clear something up, I DON'T want this thread to turn into a pissing match. I DON'T carry the izula just for protection from animals. I started this thread not to stir up arguments but for it to be informative. If you don't feel running with a knife is a good idea that that is okay with me. I'm not questioning your judgement, and I would appreciate it if you don't question mine. I am not sore, butthurt, or upset, I am just trying to stop the direction this thread is headed. If it continues down hill with arguments then I will lock this thread and let it die.

Well I'm not questioning the carrying of a knife in general, as I've stated many times before in this thread, but rather, the carrying of a Izula for the purpose of jogging. It's not a pissing match for me. People just don't seem to understand the difference and I'm clarifying my point.


I guess it depends where you are jogging.

As an example, below is an excerpt of a report of a cougar attack on Vancouver Island from a few years back. See http://www.igorilla.com/gorilla/animal/2002/cougar_attack_vancouver.html for the full report. Unlikely? Sure, but I bet Mr. Parker was pretty happy he had his little knife with him.

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Friday, August 02, 2002

A 61-year-old man won a life-and-death struggle with a cougar outside a small northern Vancouver Island village, killing the animal with his 7.5-centimetre pocket knife.

Yeah, 7.5cm is short, but the blade was thin and has an advantage for piercing over the Izula. The Izula is around 6.5cm with a thicker blade and a shorter handle. Not the best choice for a stabber, wouldn't you say? Yes, it can be done, but the odds are better with a longer blade.

I am a MAN! I am not metro-sexual! I carry a knife EVERYWHERE i go! I don't need a reason, I don't need an excuse. If i am attacked by ANYTHING, i will stand my ground. I would rather have any knife, than nothing at all. And NO, it will not be taken away from me and shoved up my arse--because i am a man!

In one of my old "Blade" magazines, there is a story about a Canadian farmer, who fought and killed a bear with his pocket knife. Few years ago there was a camper in Calif. attacked by cougar,wife killed it with a kitchen knife. In my town, 2 years ago, the bank president had to wrestled his Dachshund from a coyote, in broad daylight. It didn't end up coyote poop, like Jessica Simpson's dog.

Sorry, no apology for the rant.

I'll clarify it again: I'm NOT ARGUING THE NEED FOR CARRYING A KNIFE! I'm questioning the carrying of the Izula for jogging. My point is that it's a bit aggressive if you simply need a cutting tool while jogging and that it is not the smartest weapon to bet your life on if you're at risk of having to fight bears and cougars or even dogs. There are plenty of folders on the market with better reach, with pointier blades and with larger handles AND they are smaller when folded. The Izula brings on a false sense of security. I mean, if you feel that you are at risk of meeting a cougar or a mugger and you just have to sport a RAT knife, then wouldn't you rather have the RC-6 or even the RC-3 or H.E.S.T.?!
 
This flawed logic comes up all the time. Sure, a belt-fed machine gun woudl be better, but since that is both an unreasonable and idiotic suggestion, a knife will have to suffice.

Sigh... I guess you can't read between the lines. My point was that there are better weapons for self defense than a Izula.

I have a number of folders much larger than th eIzula. It is a small, fairly lightweight blade. HWP mentioned CPR and the like. I would much rather be using a fixed blade. It won't get as much crap stuck in it. I don't run but I bike in an area with alot of traffic. There are also alot of wrecks. If I see one you can be sure that I will stop and help out. If necessary, the Izula provides a decent fixed blade to cut seat belts, etc. Not saying it happens every day, but to insist that it cannot happen is foolish.

AGAIN, I'm not arguing the need for a blade!!! Hahaha!

Person, dog, coyote, velociraptor...it doesn't matter. Having a blade is a whole lot better than not having one.

OMG, when will people take the time to actually read what is being said and not just pick what they like from the text?!

One last time, I'm not arguing the need for a knife, but the Izula, as opposed to a better suited blade for the purpose of jogging.
 
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Of course there are folders that weigh as little as the Izula! It's physical and sheathed format however, is longer than any normal folder (folded) because it is a fixed blade. The Izula's 17.5cm compared to the 14cm of a Spyderco Police3, for instance, which is quite a difference; especially since the effective blade length of the Izula is around 6.5cm whereas the Police has 10cm. In addition, the overall length of the Izula is around 16cm while the Police is a whopping 25cm! You can use a lot more thrust and you have immensely more control with a Police than with a Izula, when it comes to fighting. The weapon of choice for defense should be a no-brainer in that case, but it obviously isn't apparent to most that a short blade isn't preferable for fighting.





Well yes, a dog nipping at your feet is not a threat. However, the Izula isn't long enough to ensure sufficient damage if it was, so I wouldn't bet my life on it. You're better off kicking a dog or clubbing it than trying to stick it with a Izula. A longer blade would be preferable if you wanted to stick it, although a dog would probably bite your knife hand. Man, I loved watching my old German Shorthair fight venomous snakes. Snakes are fast, but he dodged their attacks like Mike Tyson. Sure, he got bit a few times, but that didn't stop him. By the way, many of you guys should check out some clips on pitbulls fighting to the death after having been shot several times by the Police. Might give ya'll some perspective on the matter. I mean, do people really think they can stop a bear or a cougar with a Izula?! Hahaha! They are killers by nature, for crying out loud! What are we? Oh sure, some of us are ex special forces, martial artist etc. I would still not stand a chance against a bear and especially not with a Izula. Full-grown bears weigh a minimum of 65kg and it ranges up to 750kg. A pit weighs in at around 10-50kg and they'll kill you 3 times over before the endorphins fade away.

Just clip the knife to your waist if the bouncing is bothering you.




An arrow is obviously a lot longer than a Izula. The bear's neck is very thick. Do the math.

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Well I'm not questioning the carrying of a knife in general, as I've stated many times before in this thread, but rather, the carrying of a Izula for the purpose of jogging. It's not a pissing match for me. People just don't seem to understand the difference and I'm clarifying my point.




Yeah, 7.5cm is short, but the blade was thin and has an advantage for piercing over the Izula. The Izula is around 6.5cm with a thicker blade and a shorter handle. Not the best choice for a stabber, wouldn't you say? Yes, it can be done, but the odds are better with a longer blade.



I'll clarify it again: I'm NOT ARGUING THE NEED FOR CARRYING A KNIFE! I'm questioning the carrying of the Izula for jogging. My point is that it's a bit aggressive if you simply need a cutting tool while jogging and that it is not the smartest weapon to bet your life on if you're at risk of having to fight bears and cougars or even dogs. There are plenty of folders on the market with better reach, with pointier blades and with larger handles AND they are smaller when folded. The Izula brings on a false sense of security. I mean, if you feel that you are at risk of meeting a cougar or a mugger and you just have to sport a RAT knife, then wouldn't you rather have the RC-6 or even the RC-3 or H.E.S.T.?!

Ok, I never said there is no that folder exists that is lighter then the Izula. This thread is about a guy who used his Izula running and liked the way it carried. Not about the best knife for running and fighting off dogs. I agree with the OP and enjoy carryin it running. Not because I have to sport a RAT knife, but because I like it, and it carrys well for me. If you dont like it, carry a spyderco. I dont care what you carry, or even if you run at all.

Of course an RC3 or Hest would be better for SD. So would an RC6. So is my 1911, or even my AR15. Cmon....again not what this thread is about. :rolleyes:

Just because you dont think an Izula is the best choice, doesnt mean it isnt the best choice. Thats your opinion. Everyone is intitled to one. I dont see why youre so confrontational. :confused:

Lets not turn this into a knife fighting thread. Take that to practac. Again this is about a dude who went for a jog with his Izula and liked the way it carried. At least another person is carryin a knife. That makes me happy.

Nobody said you could take down a bear or cougar with an izula. I dont even know where you got that.....:rolleyes: Maybe its not everyone else who isnt understanding.
 
Some people are staking out some narrow positions here :confused:

I usually carry a small folder (spyderco delica) when running. Clipped to waist band or in jacket pocket (if it is cold enough to wear a jacket). It is hardly noticeable.

The things I look for in a knife to carry when running are:
- light weight. Heavy knives are just not conducive to running.
- able to carry comfortably (pocket or waistband) - should not bang against me (so no neck carry) or pull my pants down :p
- big "enough" for likely needs (cutting rope, building an emergency shelter, defense against wildlife - 2 leg or 4 leg). Knives serve a lot of purposes, some more likely than others. Any choice is a compromise (not ideal for all or even any single purpose), but why carry something that is just inadequate for anything ? Just an fyi - a 3" blade is always going to be minimal for purposes of self-defense, but it is only a tool to facilitate defense, not the only part of your tactics, and don't forget - flesh is compressible. If I punch a 3" blade into a soft body, it can penetrate more than 3". I would not want to bet my life on it against a grizz, but then for a grizz I want at least a 45-70 and not a knife at all. But dog-sized animals, cougars, etc, it is definitely better than nothing.

The advantages of a folder (all else equal) are compact size when folded and "sheath" is built in.

The disadvantages are deployment and strength. Deployment can be particularly an issue in winter with gloves on.

A fixed blade (all else equal) is less compact (does not fold), and needs a sheath, but is faster, easier to deploy and stronger for hard cutting jobs.

The Izula is very light and very similar in size to a lot of small folders, is comfortable for pocket or IWB carry, and at least as capable a cutting tool as a small folder (ok the blade is a bit thick, but not overly so).

Carry whatever you want, or not at all, but I don't see much of a downside to carrying an Izula versus a small folder, and there are some advantages. If small folder or fixed blade is too small for you, carry something bigger ! But I don't unless I'm wearing a pack (which I often do when running in winter - for survival gear).

I run "trails" in "remote" areas, btw. In the dark (after work - it gets dark early up north). Last night the temp dropped from 25F to 15F during my 1 hr run. We just got a little snow too, and if the wind had kicked up, I could have been several miles from home, in a blizzard. Probably being stalked by mtn lions :D
 
Ok, I never said there is no that folder exists that is lighter then the Izula. This thread is about a guy who used his Izula running and liked the way it carried. Not about the best knife for running and fighting off dogs. I agree with the OP and enjoy carryin it running. Not because I have to sport a RAT knife, but because I like it, and it carrys well for me. If you dont like it, carry a spyderco. I dont care what you carry, or even if you run at all.

Of course an RC3 or Hest would be better for SD. So would an RC6. So is my 1911, or even my AR15. Cmon....again not what this thread is about. :rolleyes:

If you don't understand what I've written then there is no point in explaining it again. It's all there.

Just because you dont think an Izula is the best choice, doesnt mean it isnt the best choice. Thats your opinion. Everyone is intitled to one. I dont see why youre so confrontational. :confused:

No, all of it is not an opinion. It should be common sense that such a short blade is not as well suited for fighting than a longer one. But, ordinary common sense isn't so common.

Nobody said you could take down a bear or cougar with an izula. I dont even know where you got that.....

Ok, I'll recap it for you: when I asked about hypothetical aggressors, you suggested feral dogs, hwpaintballer mentioned a poodle and brought up the story of a man killing a bear by stabbing it with an arrow; JK14 told us about the cougar being killed by a pocket knife, Henry44 spoke of a canadian farmer who fought and killed a bear with his pocket knife. In addition, he also told the tale of a camper whose wife killed it with a kitchen knife; and, he went on about a bank president who had to wrestle his Dachshund from a coyote.

So, you would have known where I got it from if you had read and understood what has been posted.

I've been doing a lot of running for the past few months and I usually keep a pocket knife on me when I do so. Today while I was getting ready to go out and run I decided to carry the Izula with me, I went hunting Thursday and Friday and had it on me the whole time so I figured why not. I ran a little over 3 miles with it in my RFP in a pair of sweat pants, I was extremely pleased with it. It rode good in the pocket, I didn't feel it. About every other time I have ran I have carried a folder, usually clipped to the pocket. Some are better then others, but I can't think of one that could compete with the Izula for being a better overall running knife. I have ran with a lot of different sized folders, ranging from as large as a Kershaw JYDII to as small as a Spyderco Dragonfly. Some down sides to running with folders I have noticed the clip makes it obvious your carrying a knife when your wearing gym shorts or sweat pants, the folder tends to bounce around a lot instead of riding in your pocket, a heavy folder can weigh your pants down and gym shorts don't have belt loops ;), and last but certainly not least if the clip doesn't hold the knife tight to the pocket you could end up loosing your folder. :grumpy: imagine hoping up into your truck after you finished a 2 mile run to discover your Spyderco Dragonfly was no longer clipped to your pocket.

I'm definitely in the original debate, but have unfortunately found myself having to explain my position over and over again.
 
If you don't understand what I've written then there is no point in explaining it again. It's all there.



No, all of it is not an opinion. It should be common sense that such a short blade is not as well suited for fighting than a longer one. But, ordinary common sense isn't so common.



Ok, I'll recap it for you: when I asked about hypothetical aggressors, you suggested feral dogs, hwpaintballer mentioned a poodle and brought up the story of a man killing a bear by stabbing it with an arrow; JK14 told us about the cougar being killed by a pocket knife, Henry44 spoke of a canadian farmer who fought and killed a bear with his pocket knife. In addition, he also told the tale of a camper whose wife killed it with a kitchen knife; and, he went on about a bank president who had to wrestle his Dachshund from a coyote.

So, you would have known where I got it from if you had read and understood what has been posted.



I'm definitely in the original debate, but have unfortunately found myself having to explain my position over and over again.


I understand what you wrote, and please spare me of explaining it again. :rolleyes:

Still is your opinion that the Izula isnt a good choice for running. I cant believe you cant see that.

Funny, I didnt see where any of those animals were killed with an Izula. :confused: They are stories and accounts of events in which a 4in fighting folder wasnt needed to do the job. Who are you to say it isnt possible? Fought alot of wild animals? Anything is possible. Thats the Survival mindset.

You have only found yourself having to explain yourself over and over again because you want to. EVERYONE GETS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, they just might not agree with it. Get used to it. Thats what being an individual is all about.:thumbup:

Im off to take a jog....Better load up the LBE, AR, 1911 in drop leg holster, and my Machete, and my pack so I can be the best prepared for ANYTHING that might come along. :D
 
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I understand what you wrote, and please spare me of explaining it again. :rolleyes:

Why should I extend you that courtesy? Exactly, so here goes:

Still is your opinion that the Izula isnt a good choice for running. I cant believe you cant see that.

Well I CAN believe that you can't understand the difference of debating two different purposes, that of the fighting role and that of the utility/emergency role.

Funny, I didnt see where any of those animals were killed with an Izula. :confused: They are stories and accounts of events in which a 4in fighting folder wasnt needed to do the job. Who are you to say it isnt possible? Fought alot of wild animals? Anything is possible. Thats the Survival mindset.

Yes, it IS funny, because I never suggested that they were killed by one and I never said it wasn't possible; but, I DID say that a Izula wouldn't be the best choice for the task.

Funny, I didnt see where any of those animals were killed with an Izula. :confused:
What exactly was your point there?! LOL!

You have only found yourself having to explain yourself over and over again because you want to. EVERYONE GETS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, they just might not agree with it. Get used to it. Thats what being an individual is all about.:thumbup:

Obviously not everyone is getting it... and of course it's my choice to defend myself.

Im off to take a jog....Better load up the LBE, AR, 1911 in drop leg holster, and my Machete, and my pack so I can be the best prepared for ANYTHING that might come along. :D

That is your prerogative. My point was exactly the OPPOSITE, which was that you hardly need a Izula for jogging, but perhaps a smaller folder. IF however, one felt that there may be dangers on the road ahead, a bigger blade than the Izula would probably be preferable.
 
Why should I extend you that courtesy? Exactly, so here goes:



Well I CAN believe that you can't understand the difference of debating two different purposes, that of the fighting role and that of the utility/emergency role.



Yes, it IS funny, because I never suggested that they were killed by one and I never said it wasn't possible; but, I DID say that a Izula wouldn't be the best choice for the task.

What exactly was your point there?! LOL!



Obviously not everyone is getting it... and of course it's my choice to defend myself.



That is your prerogative. My point was exactly the OPPOSITE, which was that you hardly need a Izula for jogging, but perhaps a smaller folder. IF however, one felt that there may be dangers on the road ahead, a bigger blade than the Izula would probably be preferable.



I understand more then you could imagine about emergency uses and fighting uses of edged tools. My career and military experiance has taught me well. AGAIN, its not that I dont understand your point. Ill just write that again. I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. All youre doing is stating the obvious. Yes lots of better choices for SD. Got it, know that. If someone is more comfy with an Izula, awesome. If not, then whatever. The Izula is a stout lil blade, lightweight, and carries well. If its not for you, im sorry. Carry what your locale demands.

In my opinion, MY opinion, I think the Izula, or similar sized neck knife, makes an excellant choice for a hideaway knife running or biking knife. Ive lost many folders while mountain biking, comining unclipped from my waistband. So I just like the idea of a knife Im aware of, like an Izula around my neck while jogging. Works for me. I think id fare pretty well with it if I needed to against a feral dog....Sure a Big ol pigsticker would be better for SD, but so would my .45.... With the Izula or similar sized neck knife, youre getting alot of utility in a small package. :thumbup:

Lighten up. Go for a jog. I dont fight on the internet, so Im done with you. ;)

much respect...
 
Maybe something to be said for a kydex neck rig for a Spyderco police....hmmm....got the gears turnin now.

However its been my experiance in a high stress "fight or flight" scenario, that complex motor skills become very hindered..... Like opening a knife when you have an attacker on you, wheather thats a dog or 2 legged variety........So I think maybe a Lightweight fixed blade makes a little sense here....hmm.
 
Finally! Good news! I respect your opinions in your last two posts and I find them interesting. Now we're talking... yeah, you've got a good point there with the folder and stress.
 
Hahahahaha!!!!

I vote pistol grip pump. With bayonet of course.

Nah seriously, I often wonder if anyone carries while running. I do while biking, but its in my pack..... Colt Commander.
 
I'm kind of along the same lines as you on this one. If you're getting mugged, better to flee or talk your way out of it and just give them your possessions. If you can't, then it's better to have a belt fed machine gun than a knife.

Very simple. Sometimes you just are not going to have the options you'd prefer.

If you're 10 miles in and set upon by three thugs, you may not be able to run and frankly, the idea that criminal assault is a trade-off for possessions is a goofy one.

If you are set upon by bad guys, as much as not, they'd like to hurt you. They're going to try to hurt you. And how about those times when you may find those same thugs setting up around a single gal running a quarter mile in front of you - plan on assisting her empty handed, or would you be better to do so with some help?

I carry a knife every single time I run. It's not an option. it goes on as naturally as my shoes. Plan ahead, right?

I carry a fixed blade. Folders suck with an accellerated heart rate and adrenaline flying. Your fingers will not work well.

I carry IWB, since it's easy to get to, but discreet.

And it has come in handy for removing offending tree branches on a trail, and also for explaining to several thugs that this is my watch, wallet, house keys (with my wife at home) and I'm not going to give it to you.

It was very helpful when a crazy person decided I was the cop who locked up her kids for dealing drugs. Turned out she was mad, but not entirely crazy. The knife was a helpful negotiating tool when she came out of the woods next to the trail holding a 1.5 meter sapling she'd just yanked out of the ground as a makeshift weapon.

And it was very helpful the couple times I had to take a crap and had to cut up my underwear for toilet paper while I was leaned up against a tree ;) Try THAT with your teeth!
 
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