Case/Bose Back Pocket

moonwilson said:
Don't let it get to you, Kerry. Haters gonna hate. Facts which contradict previously drawn conclusions are conveniently discarded.
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True dat, but at least some folks that may be otherwise drawn towards the hyperbole will have some facts upon which to make sound judgement.....or not. :p Just tryin to do my part, knowmsayin?
 
Kerry, I forgot to say, thanks for the information! It's good to have those numbers verified. I've never had any problems with Case's steel. My experiences with their knives have been overwhelmingly positive. Frankly, I see red whenever I see folks trashing Case for no apparent reason, just because they're not the new kids on the block, or whatever. If Case were ever to close their doors (God forbid!), I bet you'd see a lot of these same haters climbing all over each other to pick up their knives on the secondary market. :rolleyes:

Case is doing a good job. They are making great knives. The Backpocket is a good example. I think once more people actually get them, and use them, it will develop a following.
 
moonwilson said:
Don't let it get to you, Kerry. Haters gonna hate. Facts which contradict previously drawn conclusions are conveniently discarded.
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People can have criticism for a knife and not be haters. I bought one and don't like it. Your pictures show why. The knife is as large as the GEC but has a smaller blade compared to the GEC. I opened the package and pulled out a big ol' honking knife, opened the blade and thought "that's it?". I knew how my wife felt on our wedding night :)

From you pics you can also see that the knife is narrower at the bolster then the GEC but is as wide at the rear. What the pictures do not show is the Case is a lot thinner also. This gives it an awkward grip, to me. That is a preference. I prefer more neutral grips so I can hold the knife with the blade edge oriented in any direction. It is awkward for me to do with this knife.

The knife I have is built well and the blade is so centered it is just a joy to look at. I will never use it though because I dont like the ergos.
 
tomcrx said:
People can have criticism for a knife and not be haters. I bought one and don't like it. Your pictures show why. The knife is as large as the GEC but has a smaller blade compared to the GEC. I opened the package and pulled out a big ol' honking knife, opened the blade and thought "that's it?". I knew how my wife felt on our wedding night :)

From you pics you can also see that the knife is narrower at the bolster then the GEC but is as wide at the rear. What the pictures do not show is the Case is a lot thinner also. This gives it an awkward grip, to me. That is a preference. I prefer more neutral grips so I can hold the knife with the blade edge oriented in any direction. It is awkward for me to do with this knife.

The knife I have is built well and the blade is so centered it is just a joy to look at. I will never use it though because I dont like the ergos.
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Tomcrx, I was not responding to your post/s, I was responding to cultivateitnow's comments below:

cultivateitnow said:
Just part of the hand made thing. If the person on the line doesn't know how the knife is going to be a poor example.

I've never had much luck with Case and was quite surprised they were held in high regard on this fourm. I still remember buying my first Case and having the guy take one out fo the box and the sides fell off of it. I found fair example and bought one and ne never did hold an edge. I'm not sure why Case insist on producing knive blades with Rockell numbers well below cheep kitchen knives. I gave my Case knives away and never gave them another thought.

Buck makes a much better knife with better blades for a third of the price. They are also in process of bringing back all models to the USA. That said the Bucks I purchased that are made over seas are made much better than Case. I'm a bit surprised Tony Bose would risk his name by joining up with them. He should insist on a CNC made product for his line.
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Saying that you don't like a knife that you own because of the design or ergos is one thing. Implying that Tony Bose is making a mistake by working with Case, or comparing their steel to "cheep" (sic) kitchen knives is quite another.

Every knife will feel different if different folks' hands. No knife will work for everyone, which is why traditional knives have such amazing variety! Personally, I like the feel of the Backpocket, but your perception and comments are just as valid as mine. I would like to see the scales be a bit thicker too. I wonder if the bone-scaled versions are just as trim, or just the ebony? If they're all that slim, I'm sure Tony had good reasons for designing it that way. The Backpocket is a new pattern, which is very different from Case's other offerings. After it is out for a while, and folks get to use it, it will likely prove perfect for certain guys who use knives for certain things in a certain way, just like most of Case's other patterns. :thumbup:
 
Pssssst...let's see if anyone can tell why the blade is smaller in the Case BP than the GEC.
 
I have read this about Case knives before. And after looking at their product line-up I'd have to agree with another poster that essentially said Case should cut out the fluff (way too many "collector" pieces). But I ordered my first two anyways, one for me, one for a friend. Fingers crossed...
 
KnifeHead said:
Well said. :thumbup:

As far as the possible mistake is concerned, Case has great customer service, as most are aware of, and will likely back you up if you find a problem with one of their knives.
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Thanks Kerry. Based on your comments and Andy's review of his Case BackPocket, I've editted my previous post. I love this pattern, am thrilled that Case is making them affordably and cannot wait to get one. In the unlikely even that it has issues, I know Case will make it right.
 
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Case has responded to knife users' input, as opposed to just the collectors, by adding more CV knives into its lineup with more scale options.

I know that Case execs read this forum, so the complaints aren't falling on deaf ears.

I have a Bose BP and I like the design of the handle and blade shape. I would like to get the Case BP in ebony as well.
 
I am anxiously awaiting mine, hopefully it will be in my PO box on the way home. I hope that I don't have any problems. I do know, however, that both the dealer and Case would make it right if I did.
 
GregS said:
I have read this about Case knives before. And after looking at their product line-up I'd have to agree with another poster that essentially said Case should cut out the fluff (way too many "collector" pieces). But I ordered my first two anyways, one for me, one for a friend. Fingers crossed...
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Awww heck...don't just cross your fingers. Sacrifice a chicken and carry a rabbit's foot to increase your chances. :p

I saw the "beany baby" comment up there...not the first time from that poster, for whatever reason. :confused: I'll mention that it seems that Case was saved by Zippo's takeover and, because of that, Case is heavy on the knife nut collector market and not so heavy on the KNIFE PURIST market. I can live with that if it means a good American company stays in business.
 
KnifeHead said:
I saw the "beany baby" comment up there...not the first time from that poster, for whatever reason. :confused: I'll mention that it seems that Case was saved by Zippo's takeover and, because of that, Case is heavy on the knife nut collector market and not so heavy on the KNIFE PURIST market. I can live with that if it means a good American company stays in business.
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Getting my "Smokey" catalog, it can be a two way street seeing all of the Case knives available. Some gorgeous eye catching stag models, some neat CV yeller handle models. Oh wait, candy cane scales :D ! Well, after giving it some thought, I'm glad that the buyers are there for these "specials" that Case puts out. All of the musical group/company etc collaborations, the wild handle colors, the Xmas specials from above mentioned company. If that gets Case to pursue a collaboration with Tony Bose every year, if that gets Case to bring back old designs every year, if that gets Case to use more carbon steel and stag/antique bone scales, then so be it. I'll be right in line with all the other knife nuts on here.
 
KnifeHead said:
Yep...not a fair comparison of blade length on those two knives since one has a tube in it and one doesn't.
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Regardless of the length, the blade is just too thin for my taste and looks out of place on the handle. I have always had this opinion of the Back Pocket design, not just the Case version. When the "Zulu" blade is used on this frame it helps, but still just a little out of place IMHO.

If anyone who has one of these, and also has a standard 4 1/8" trapper or slimline trapper, I would be curious to see those opened side by side. I just wonder if the Backpocket has any more blade, or maybe less? than the full size trapper.
 
KnifeHead said:
Anyone can "drop a bomb" in a forum without evidence so it would be nice to have some facts or details that back up such claims.
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Well said Kerry!

If someone doesn't like a certain manufacturer (be it a knife or anything else), then they don't have to buy it, end of story.
 
FLymon said:
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If anyone who has one of these, and also has a standard 4 1/8" trapper or slimline trapper, I would be curious to see those opened side by side. I just wonder if the Backpocket has any more blade, or maybe less? than the full size trapper.
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That would be a nice comparison. That was my impression when I first saw it.. a trapper blade with a huge handle. To me it sacrificed a lot of ergos for the sake of a lanyard tube. The Case trapper carries easier in the back pocket then my Back Pocket does.

The ebony one I have sure is built nice though :)
 
KnifeHead said:
Yep...not a fair comparison of blade length on those two knives since one has a tube in it and one doesn't.
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I will sacrifice some blade length for a lanyard hole anytime. :thumbup:
I am looking forward to picking up one of these in ebony :D
 
FLymon said:
Regardless of the length, the blade is just too thin for my taste and looks out of place on the handle. I have always had this opinion of the Back Pocket design, not just the Case version. When the "Zulu" blade is used on this frame it helps, but still just a little out of place IMHO.

If anyone who has one of these, and also has a standard 4 1/8" trapper or slimline trapper, I would be curious to see those opened side by side. I just wonder if the Backpocket has any more blade, or maybe less? than the full size trapper.
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Oh I know it. Dang things are so ugly Tony has to practically give them away. Not to mention, the blades are so blasted thin you have to hold up on the dadburn chubby handle to keep the knife from falling thru what yer cuttin! The final straw for me was ya can't pry stuff open with it!!! :D

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Eeesh, Kerry. That thing is positively hideous! :eek: :barf: I tell you what, if you send it to me, I'll make sure it is properly disposed of.
 
moonwilson said:
Eeesh, Kerry. That thing is positively hideous! :eek: :barf: I tell you what, if you send it to me, I'll make sure it is properly disposed of.
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Heck, I'll even pay for shipping if Tony, Kerry and Reese want to send a few to Virginia to be disposed of. :D
 
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