Case quality

Sorry guys I did not intend for this to become a GEC vs Case thread. Both companies make great knives that we all can enjoy, carry, and use and that's al that matters.


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I think this is an excellent thread. :thumbup: I guess I was the one that kind of derailed it and for that I apologize however I only wanted to share my love and support of Case. You my friend have no need to apologize as JD said " Everyone knows that's not what you intended". Thank you for starting this great discussion.
 
Well guys, I mentioned before that I was getting a harvest orange sowbelly today and I did. I was so excited about getting this one because I love the color and I really wanted to try out the pattern. Annnnnnnnnd....it got put in a box and will be going to Case this afternoon. When the edge was put on, someone got a little excited and put a grind mark all the way up the side of the blade (about half an inch wide). That and the spring on the sheepsfoot/spey is so weak the spey barely stays put. Other than that it was beautiful. Oh well. I reckon it'll be pretty darn nice when I get it back (I hope)...:confused:
 
I think Case, like all American manufacturing companies, has had a rough go of it and the 2008 recession was not their friend. At least they are still in business, unlike some very well known others. They have had some management changes over the past few years and are in the process of a multi-year expansion and improvement of their factory.

They recently chose to streamline the number of patterns they produce, doing away with their "vault" program and permanently but quietly retiring many of their patterns, focusing more on variations on the themes (handles, embellishments, minor blade-combo variations). Though at the same time they have introduced a few new (mainly Tony Bose designed) patterns, though usually that may mean one new pattern every two years versus 3 or 4 new patterns a year for GEC (which may never be repeated, or will be in a totally different variant the next time).

So perhaps Case's quality control is getting better. Personally, out of probably 100 Case knives, I really don't have any I consider to be of unacceptable quality. I have some that are of exceptional quality, and some that are average quality, and a number in between. All in all, I feel I have gotten fair value for the prices paid, for what the product is and how it is intended to be used/enjoyed.
 
I have some that are of exceptional quality, and some that are average quality, and a number in between. All in all, I feel I have gotten fair value for the prices paid, for what the product is and how it is intended to be used/enjoyed.

Good point and well said. I completely agree with you. Even if you get one on the lower end of the quality scale, they make it better for you. I'm hoping my sowbelly is all taken care of in six to eight weeks....
 
Hope so. I've been lucky to never get one that needed to go back. Usually when I have had a problem it has been cosmetic, and within my skill set to resolve to my satisfaction. If I were going for new-in-box display / collector value then that might be a problem, but I usually consider mine to be user-grade. I actually used to hate it when I got a perfect specimen because then I didn't want to use it. :)
 
Here's the deal with Case, in my opinion: You get a good, solid, American-made traditional knife (I wrote "good," not "flawless"), at a good price (more expensive than, say, Rough Rider, cheaper than GEC) that you can flat-out use the snot out of for years and years. Loads of models to choose from and your preferred model is generally quite easy to locate and purchase (unlike GEC). Pretty solid deal, as far as I'm concerned.

-- Mark
 
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Two days ago I picked up this Swayback from a Retail Store. So I was able to inspect it before buying.
F & F are very nice. Blade is centered Pull is strong about a 7. I paid full retail so I expected a nice knife, and I got one.


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You got a nice one, Randy, I've been thinking about torching or dyeing mine to look more toasty.
 
Here's a couple Case-Bose Yearly Collabs, 2005 Lock back whittler and a 2013 Wharncliffe Trapper.
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Case has increased their quality, from what I've seen. I carry two Case knives daily, a Damascus peanut that was a gift from Jackknife, and my first Case Bose collaboration, an ebony Tribal Spear. The ebony Tribal Spear had gaps I could fit a sheet of paper through, I contacted Case and they fixed it for me. No issues with the Damascus peanut. I have gone through quite a few Case knives, I have one or two old XX models, one with wood handles that have disintegrated to where they feel like Swamp Thing must. The others are all from the Case Bose annual designs, I did have a Yukon years ago but like an idiot traded that:

-antique bone dogleg jack,
ebony Tribal Spear, antique bone Tribal Spear, Damascus honey oatmeal bone Tribal Spear,
chestnut coffin jack,
chestnut Lannys Clip,
antique bone wharncliff trapper and
antique bone cattle knife.

All were bought brand new except the dogleg jack, which was part of a trade.

I've had quite a few of the Bose CV and SS models, and the regular CV and SS models. I'm guessing the Bose and non Bose design 154CM blades out there are most likely going to have the fit and finish of the Bose annual designs.

Bose designs such as the backpocket, panama trapper, swayback jack, swayback gent, saddlehorn and sowbelly, all models I've owned, have the highest level of fit and finish in CV and SS, in my estimation because knife nuts will know who Tony is, and will appreciate the revival of old patterns and Tony's own creations. Also, Case collectors will go nuts for them.

Afterwards, CV appears to be given the most attention to fit and finish and grinds. I'm guessing that they realize most users will carry a CV model, even though SS can take a fine edge. Even though you will not find as many patterns available in CV, although Case is doing better with that, the models you do find are of pretty high quality lately.

I've found that the knives with SS steel aren't as bad as I once made out, certainly no reason for me to have an aversion to Case's version of 420HC steel, presumably 420HC and not 420J2. While I have heard their RC is not as good as what Buck uses, it is a useable steel and not just for display cases as I once opined.

Resources are tight, my tastes have become quite snobbish, Case will make me a pauper if they find a small trove of BG42 for their Bose slipjoints (hint hint Tony...). Nothing like being the guy on the corner sleeping under yesterday's newspaper with a couple midtech slipjoints in your pocket...
 
Wow, great photos guys. Case should use your shots for their catalog. Thanks for the inspiration.


Alan
 
I received my chestnut bone peanut about two months ago. It's my first and only Case knife so far, so I can't really compare it like you guys (wonderful knives, btw, everyone :thumbup: ). On mine, there are a few things that could iritate a person, especially a collector. For example, the clip blade is off center, the tip was even bent a bit, the shield sticking out quite a bit and a few minor gabs here and there. However, the pen blade is centered perfectly, the bone to bolsters transition is very good, no major gabs anywhere, no blade play and despite the main blade is off center it doesn't touch the liner and the bent tip I simply straightened out as good as I could. I guess one has to look at the pros more than the cons although I understand there are some things one simply can't look past. Mine is carried and used every day and the small flaws don't bother me. It's still better made than some of the other knives I own. I love the jigged bone and CV.

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That's a '72 6214-1/2 on the top. Jigged delrin. The rest are all 2014 and 2015 knives. Small Texas Jack, Mini Trapper, 6318 Stockman, and Mini Copperlock are favorites. The STJ's blades are perfectly centered, the pen having a bit of wiggle-ability. The Copperlock has just about perfect F&F, and the blade locks up tight.
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