Chain off 2011

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BFH44

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hello all - i volunteer with "Dogs Deserve Better" DDB they work for changing tethering / chaining laws in different states and rescuing dogs left on chains in bad conditions.

I have been working as a volunteer for them for about 4 years now. every year on 4th of July weekend we meet at a public place usually a city hall or something like that (this year the State capital in PA ) and we chain ourselves to dog houses for the entire weekend - (a couple years ago we even had a TX congressman join us).

This July 4th i will be meeting with others to chain ourselves to dog houses somewhere in the capital of Pennsylvania

we do this to raise funds and awareness usually TV people come out and interview the founder Tammy Grimes (Tamara Thayne)

Please consider supporting me as I raise funds and awareness for the dogs that are starving at the end of a chain.

Starvation not only of body but starvation of the Spirit and the Heart and the Soul


send me a message and and i will send you a link if you would like to support us


as an added plus DDB has been trying to purchase Michal Vic's old property to turn it into a rehabilitation hospital for abused dogs -and it might go through - that is too cool

anyway - I will have to sleep on the pavement for a couple of days chained up so my back will be killing me - any prayers or kind thought would be appreciated - Thanks you
 
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if you are interested in joining the cause and would like to chain up and raise funds you can go to their website and they will set you up with an account and you can set up a page for yourself

click on the third picture link down entitled Chain off and it will explain how to help if you want

http://www.dogsdeservebetter.org/
 
If only I had money, then dude, it would be all for charity and helping out poor animals. But the best I can do for the time being is wait for a breakthrough from a meteoricist friend of mine, and get some of his peeps to identify petrologically and chemically my meteorites, which will, at max, give me a pay up of around $2 million. You see, right now, there is a web of corruption woven in the meteoricist society, according to my friend and to my own experiences, that, or genuine misinformation. Either way, its keeping me from authenticating and selling my meteorites so I can HELP PEOPLE!! RARG!!! Nothing I can do though, I've exhausted all my other options. Sorry, Eric. Keep up the good work, you'll go down in history as the first guy to receive the Nobel Peace Prize for being AWESOME. I'll see you, man. Peace.
 
I don't know about prizes or history but your money isn't as important as your intention - good thoughts are always welcome - sure we are raising funds but we are also trying to raise awareness nationwide

thanks for the good intentions
 
So what happens to the behavior of a dog on a chain? Any speculations on the psychology behind the changes?
 
i cant put the link here to my fundraising page but i will post what i wrote on the page which addresses the issue -- I will just leave of the donation/fundraising part
 
There are basically two schools of thought when talking with Anti-tethering advocates.

There are those against tethering that say no dog should ever be tethered.

Then there are those that feel tethering as dog is ok as long as guidelines are adhered to (just plain responsible pet owner ideals and common sense).

What we are concerned with is dogs left out in the heat with no water or shade for days – in the cold with no shelter or even bedding material for them to lay on for body heat.

Owners that spend no time socializing with the animal and are neglectful with basic needs.
The laws and attitudes that DDB and others are trying to change are concerned with the health of the animal both physical and mental

When i had been asked to testify in court as to some of the tragedies I had witnessed I spent several days researching and writing on the subject, especially what you asked Howard. I will see if I can find the document.

One thing for sure is that the majority if fatal dog attacks are from dogs that are kept on chains.
 
below is a copy of my fundraising page

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Hello and Thank you for visiting my page!

I will be joining others to chain myself to a dog house for 10 hours
Place: Capitol Steps, Back Entrance
Address: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
Date: June 20, 2011
Times: 8 a.m.-6 p.m.

and again at my home in my front yard in Alexandria VA for 2 days - July 3rd and 4th 2011 in order to raise awareness and funds for “Dogs Deserve Better”.

All around our country dogs are suffering dying at the end of a chain; they do not have life as most would consider life. More often than not just cruel punishment and often death sentences at the end of a chain.

Solitary confinement is considered the most psychologically damaging of punishments, usually only reserved for the most dangerous felony criminals. Yet here in America the same treatment happens all the time to “man’s best friend”.

Dogs on chains straining to be free become entangled and struggle till a starved dehydrated death / or strangled and die.

Dogs on chains often go for days without food or water. Dogs on chains are rarely petted or cared for. Often they are terrorized by owners or others -- it is starvation not only of the body but starvation of the spirit and the heart.

The love of a dog knows no bounds, help take a stand to end the torture.
I have been actively involved in the transporting Dogs from shelters to rescues; foster homes and forever homes for the past eight years. I only wish I could do more. This will be my third time as a participant in the “Chain Off”.

Please consider helping those that have no voice and cannot help themselves by sponsoring me in this event.

“A good deed shines bright in a weary world” -- Willy Wonka


Thank you for supporting us and taking a stand for them!

Sincerely; and in service; Eric Angeletti
 
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Eric,

Thanks for all your good work with the suffering dogs. I'll look forward to your more extensive document.

My interest is not solely motivated by concern for the dogs. I suspect that humans and dogs share certain psychological traits, and insights into dog behavior may give insights into our own. Humans and dogs have developed mutual bonds seen in few other species. This is evident in the working, hunting, and social relationships between humans and dogs.

Fred Reed got me thinking about this again with his recent blog entry on patriotism. He draws analogies to human behavior and that of other pack animals, particularly dogs. It is an interesting read for a memorial day weekend.

One has to wonder if the conditions that produce behavioral aberrations in dogs might have somewhat similar effects on humans.
 
thanks - i will read up on that -- the best analogy is that men in prolonged solitary confinement in prison and dogs chained have almost identical psychological changes
 
Howard this is a rough draft i found there is more somewhere - but true statistics are hard to find - one exception it is documented that more than 70 percent of fatal dog attacks in the USA come from chained dogs.

Dogs on chains – effects – and dog attacks = an essay by Eric Angeletti
There is no accurate statistics on dog bites or fatalities. Most statistics that you hear are made up and support the position of the person stating it.
The debate has gone on for years and there is a lot of information to read before just stating whatever idea first comes into your mind.
One statistic that is accurate and true is that the majority of dog attack fatalities occur from dogs that are chained or tethered.
Dogs on chains become highly aggressive and some people myself included believe it damages them mentally. It is very much the same way prisoners kept in solitary confinement become; highly aggressive, highly territorial, as well as depressed.

dogs on chains become highly territorial in a very short time, they will defend their little area to the death. it studies have shown the dogs on chains and perisiners in solitary confinement show similar if not identical traits.

as of 8/2007 one report stated 'at least 157 U.S. children had been killed or severely injured by chained dogs in the past 4 years. Chaining dogs can have tragic consequences. This practice is not only inhumane, but also creates a very real threat to humans as well as dogs and other animals. Chained or penned outdoor dogs are at significant risk for developing aggression.'


The mental damage a dog receives living at the end of a chain is much more than most people think. I am talking about being on a chain only without further abuse – then add in being yelled at or ignored or both and taunted by children who may feel inclined to tease the dog knowing that it can’t reach them.
I'll never understand why people get a dog, to have a furry companion, maybe a playmate for kids, or whatever, and then proceed to take this very pack-oriented animal, and chain him up away from all his people. And every day, this creature whose sole purpose in life is to please his human, is forced to watch as his people go about their daily routine, just out of reach. So he barks, and lunges at the kids, because they look like FUN! And he only gets yelled at, and then ignored more.

Time passes; he starts to feel much more territorial about his space that his chain lets him patrol. After a while longer, he no longer wants to play. He can't remember why he wanted to in the first place, he just knows that these people who were supposed to love him and accept him as part of the family are neglecting him shamelessly, letting other kids come and taunt him perhaps, and after all, they know he can't reach them. Maybe they throw stones and sticks, maybe they yell, or tease him, darting in and out of reach.

And then one day, one of the teasing kids doesn't get out of the way fast enough. And the dog feels cornered, and finally decides to stand his ground. *SNAP* Maybe, it wasn't even one of the kids who teased him. Maybe it was (FINALLY!!) somebody coming to play.

But the result is the same. That kid needs stitches, and you’re best friend, whom the owner was No friend to, gets carted off to the pound, or the vet's office for a final good-bye.

Please don't do this to your dog. Dogs should be welcomed into your home as part of your family. If you must keep your dog on a chain for parts of the day at least make sure he is taken care of with fresh water and regular meals and most of all spend time with and share affection with your “best friend”.

If not prepared for this commitment then please have the decency not o buy a dog and if you have already own a dog but cannot commit to him then let him go; find him a good home. Where he can be part of the pack the he so desperately needs.
 
Yeah, I might have already this before, but I am totally all for helping animals. While I believe that helping people is the most important thing one can possibly do, that does NOT mean I like to do it. Sure, if the people are GUARANTEED to be nice, social, friendly people, than sure, I would be happy to serve them. But if there is even a hint of malice in just one person, if just one person is unfriendly, it ruins my day and brings me down, and I don't like that. But dogs, for example, are much easier to tell good from bad. Bad dogs are the ones that have that evil eye, that try to kill or do maim you on sight, that bark and carry on, and just act generally unfriendly to you. And you just stay away from them. There is no fear, once you are outside the cage, that they might open it with their paws, pull out a shotgun and start a killing spree, like say, a bad tempered, evil man would. And those aberrants are far outweighed by the neutral and good dogs out there, because domestic animals are usually selectively bred, and humans are, unwisely, NOT selectively bred. I mean, it would be an injustice to have some tyrannical monster impose breeding upon us, but it would be, in the end, for the good of the human specie to weed out the bad traits and evil mutations, and just get the good ones. But that would be a bland utopian society, and beside the point. It is much more pleasurable to be around dogs than people sometimes, because people are an unknown quantity, and dogs, are not. A dog is not going to start thinking super advanced thoughts and start gabbling away with Barklish, a dog is not going to grab a semi automatic pistol out of his 'pockets' and kill you with it while your back is turned. There is little viable reason to fear for your life, your sanity, there is little reason to fear, period, when you have a good ol' dog at your side. And that is why I will always be happy for you and envious of you Eric. You get to frolic with canines, if only for a few hours a day before the real work starts, you get to, for a few magical moments when you stare into those well meaning, large doggy eyes, forget what fear is. My dogs, they are not so magical anymore. They are getting old and lazy, but you, you will always have fresh attention and unconditional love from your doggies, you lucky duck you. I'm not my life stinks, because, in reality, I am quite lucky myself, I am just saying, it must never get old, that thrill and chill of looking into a new dogs eyes and knowing you belong, no matter how many human groups you might get kicked out of (that was just an example, I am sure you are very popular with people, Eric). I'll see you later, keep doing what you do, it is fantabulous stuff, and don't let anyone convince you otherwise. Peace.
David
 
Hm, I don't know if magical would apply to THIS:
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That rotund moving blur is Buffy, my 13 year old Jack Russel Terrier and Beagle mix. There is NOTHING magical about her, sorry to disappoint you Eric, NOTHING magical. She doesn't fly, she doesn't shoot laser beams from her mouth, she doesn't spit acid, she doesn't cry bullets, she doesn't even bely her giant belly and jump like a ninja. Nope, she's as ordinary as dirt, and, while I used to like her a lot, she is more trouble than she is worth nowadays, almost all the time I fantasize about pitching her out the window, which would be a speedy end to her frail body, riddled with fatty tumors and weak bones even my weak body could break without really trying. She is cataract riddled and pocked with tartar in her mouth. She is, forgive my shallowness, annoying as Pestilence himself, and I am SO tempted to give her a kick, its literally scaring me. I am through with that dog, she is too mad to even feel affection, much less bestow it unto me for any reason. Done with Buffy! Okay, I'm out, peace everyone.
 
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Hm, I don't know if magical would apply to THIS:
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That rotund moving blur is Buffy, my 13 year old Jack Russel Terrier and Beagle mix. There is NOTHING magical about her, sorry to disappoint you Eric, NOTHING magical. She doesn't fly, she doesn't shoot laser beams from her mouth, she doesn't spit acid, she doesn't cry bullets, she doesn't even bely her giant belly and jump like a ninja. Nope, she's as ordinary as dirt, and, while I used to like her a lot, she is more trouble than she is worth nowadays, almost all the time I fantasize about pitching her out the window, which would be a speedy end to her frail body, riddled with fatty tumors and weak bones even my weak body could break without really trying. She is cataract riddled and pocked with tartar in her mouth. She is, forgive my shallowness, annoying as Pestilence himself, and I am SO tempted to give her a kick, its literally scaring me. I am through with that dog, she is too mad to even feel affection, much less bestow it unto me for any reason. Done with Buffy! Okay, I'm out, peace everyone.
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Gorog,
I for one am not liking very much what i'm reading here.
But i'm willing to let you rethink what you've posted.

Buffy is old. She's lived a good long life being a part of your family and has always loved you, even if she doesnt always show it.
She deserves your respect, love, care and protection.....not your hate, not the abuse you fantasize about giving her.
We here would not dream of writing what you wrote, much less doing to buffy what you describe.
Buffy may not have the inclination to be very affectionate anymore, its just how dogs get when the're old, but i can assure you she loves you and needs your love as much as she ever did, maybe even more now.
I have a 21 yr old dachshund/chihuahua mix that is still the apple of my eye even though shes some trouble and doesnt show much affection anymore. On her good days, she will give me a lick or two and want some attention. But mostly she just wants to sleep and not be bothered by anything. She is just as "magical" to me as the day we first met.
Dogs can sense what you feel, even if it's not directed at them. Buffy knows how you feel about her by your demeanor. You cannot hide it from her. Try to genuinely love her and show her affection and i'm sure you will get a better reaction from her. Dogs are very forgiving.
I do hope you realise that you could do jail time over doing what you describe.
IIRC, this isnt the first post you've made here about wanting to abuse a pet.
I do hope you will understand when i ask you now to get help/seek counseling for these feelings before it is too late.
 
David i can tell other things are bothering you and you are just going sideways with it -- please read my pm message and give me a call - i sent you my phone number you can call anytime 24 hours a day -- i dont think anyone is mad at you i think they are just concerned for you and the dogs -


- i pretty much believe you are just venting steam - i believe you have a good heart -- maybe you are just frustrated -- i understand i get that way too sometimes
 
I'm not so well, but my dog is doing just spiffy. Thank you for your concern and your wise words, I am soon getting seen by the best Asperger's doctor in the US. See you, I have to go to sleep, getting up early tomorrow. I'll see you all later. Peace.
 
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