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Or the thread stays open and the poster gets closed.
That's for sure! :thumbup:
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Cheaper knives are punching above thier weight?
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I have checked out such test they do have informational value but will not be an accurate indicator for everyone and how they use their knives. I've had 420HC in one blade out perform AUS8 in another for mostly cardboard and yet another AUS8 do better than both. I've been learning 8cr13mov blows away both in cardboard by a long shot. I have a large blade in 8cr13mov as well and in the woods it doubles every characteristic 1095 has. It's just as tough, is a touch higher in HRC and edge retention makes every 1095 blade I've owned look like a joke. I can't get it to chip roll crack bend or break in use that I was intentionally trying to break it so I could prove to myself the Internet is right about how crappy that steel is. Only fault I've found is it does develope minor surface rust if run hard and put away wet, but it wiped off with a swipe of my thumb. For what I've put it through I will put up with a minor rust fault, my carbon blades are expected to and do rust and it's always an easy fix after a couple days of hard use.
That's the kind of stuff a test conducted under lab conditions will never tell me. Them tests are more of a guide line for some one completely new to knives, and even then there should be a bold disclaimer that such tests will not not relate to real world use.
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stabman
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Most important thing in my life and in this world. Family. There isn't even a close second.
That's cool.
Your having kids means I don't have to. :thumbup:
This may already have been said, but I just like buying (collecting) knives. Finding something different (not too easy with over 300... so far ), looking for a good deal on it, ordering and then the dreaded but fun WAITING 
, unpacking and checking it out etc.; all of these things are fun for me and, I'm sure, many of us. I have my share of relatively expensive knives but the cheaper ones which "punch above their weight" Kershaw oso sweet, nura, etc.,Spyderco ambitious, tenacious, etc., Rat 1,2 and many others mentioned throughout this thread make it affordable to keep "playing" while not feeling guilty about the overall cost (as I ended up doing when collecting swords for a few years). So :thumbup::thumbup: to the makers and knives which qualify for this thread. 
), looking for a good deal on it, ordering and then the dreaded but fun WAITING , unpacking and checking it out etc.; all of these things are fun for me and, I'm sure, many of us. I have my share of relatively expensive knives but the cheaper ones which "punch above their weight" Kershaw oso sweet, nura, etc.,Spyderco ambitious, tenacious, etc., Rat 1,2 and many others mentioned throughout this thread make it affordable to keep "playing" while not feeling guilty about the overall cost (as I ended up doing when collecting swords for a few years). So :thumbup::thumbup: to the makers and knives which qualify for this thread. 
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Flat out its not a black or white issue. Make to make, model to model, completely subjective to the user...
For example, I carry a standard Sandvik Blur, sure it was a discounted blem but it's every bit as good as my other Blurs, roughly a $60 knife
and then a $15 Schrade sch220 w/ a 9cr18mov blade, with me to work every night. (Steel foundry, not office)
Does the Blur cut the sandbags, straps, packages, hoses, whatever else, 4x as good as the Schrade?
Nope, i'd twice as good, sure, it's definitely a better smoother slice, but not 4x better.
Does it hold it's edge 4x longer? Well, yes, because I use the Schrade for those "grimey/xtra-hard" jobs I wouldn't want to risk with the Blur, ultimately dulling the blade faster, but cut for cut, I would say no... The Schrade does hold up well for the abuse it takes.
Both are liner locks, neither has even hinted at failing, both have similar blade lengths, the Schrade is 0.105" shorter, and 0.01" thinner, though I would never let with the Blur, yet I (light) pry without a second thought with the Schrade. Both have thumbstuds and Aluminum handles. Both have (i think) great in the hand ergonomics, in totally different ways. The Schrades handle is 0.01" thinner with a deep pocket clip, Blur is assisted opening with a reversible clip.
Schrade is also more then a full oz. Heavier, (more handle without the inserts), so hypothetically if I'm gonna punch somebody and don't have a roll of nickles...
That all said, the Kershaw does have a better overall fit and finish, without a doubt, and I've had to tighten the pivot on the Schrade once, but is the Kershaw 4x the knife of the sch220? Is it worth 4x the price?
I know I like it 4x as much. Which is the better "value" though so far? The Schrade, because for the price I paid it dies everything the Blur does, AND I'm not near as hesitant to put it through some abuse. And it's held rather well so far. To the point of diminishing returns, I can sell that beat up Schrade with the edge i put on it, all day for $5, so it would've cost me $10, meanwhile there is virtually No way I'm getting more then $40 for a used and beat up standard Blur. Which would me $20. (As a blem, this one was a great value, but just as an example imagine a non blem).
Do I feel the Blur is worth the price? Absolutely
Do I feel the Schrade was worth $15, yup
Do I feel the Blur is the superior blade? Sure do
But the Schrade is the better value of the two. From my perspective of course.
For example, I carry a standard Sandvik Blur, sure it was a discounted blem but it's every bit as good as my other Blurs, roughly a $60 knife
and then a $15 Schrade sch220 w/ a 9cr18mov blade, with me to work every night. (Steel foundry, not office)
Does the Blur cut the sandbags, straps, packages, hoses, whatever else, 4x as good as the Schrade?
Nope, i'd twice as good, sure, it's definitely a better smoother slice, but not 4x better.
Does it hold it's edge 4x longer? Well, yes, because I use the Schrade for those "grimey/xtra-hard" jobs I wouldn't want to risk with the Blur, ultimately dulling the blade faster, but cut for cut, I would say no... The Schrade does hold up well for the abuse it takes.
Both are liner locks, neither has even hinted at failing, both have similar blade lengths, the Schrade is 0.105" shorter, and 0.01" thinner, though I would never let with the Blur, yet I (light) pry without a second thought with the Schrade. Both have thumbstuds and Aluminum handles. Both have (i think) great in the hand ergonomics, in totally different ways. The Schrades handle is 0.01" thinner with a deep pocket clip, Blur is assisted opening with a reversible clip.
Schrade is also more then a full oz. Heavier, (more handle without the inserts), so hypothetically if I'm gonna punch somebody and don't have a roll of nickles...
That all said, the Kershaw does have a better overall fit and finish, without a doubt, and I've had to tighten the pivot on the Schrade once, but is the Kershaw 4x the knife of the sch220? Is it worth 4x the price?
I know I like it 4x as much. Which is the better "value" though so far? The Schrade, because for the price I paid it dies everything the Blur does, AND I'm not near as hesitant to put it through some abuse. And it's held rather well so far. To the point of diminishing returns, I can sell that beat up Schrade with the edge i put on it, all day for $5, so it would've cost me $10, meanwhile there is virtually No way I'm getting more then $40 for a used and beat up standard Blur. Which would me $20. (As a blem, this one was a great value, but just as an example imagine a non blem).
Do I feel the Blur is worth the price? Absolutely
Do I feel the Schrade was worth $15, yup
Do I feel the Blur is the superior blade? Sure do
But the Schrade is the better value of the two. From my perspective of course.
Nothin' quite like holdin' a grandkid and knowing you'll help form his or her entre outlook on life. Family --- it's what makes all the BS worth it.
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It's been kind of cool influencing the development of nieces and nephews along the way.
This way I get to borrow some of the credit...but the blame for all that went wrong can rest squarely with the parents.
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I have that BK 15... paid $35 IIRC. I also just got the OKC RTACII for $80, even though I added a $60 kydex sheath, it is still a huge bargain. Esse 6's, OKC RD's, Kershaw Blurs for $40, Cryo G10's, Manix2 Lightweights in S110V for around $100, $13 Moras, ZT 0801's, ZT 0450's, SYKCO's, Busse Basics, etc... yeah, there are some nice ones out there punching above their price.