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Clumsy wording on my part which I apologize for. I stand by the intent which was and is to point out the downside of buying imports.
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Clumsy wording on my part which I apologize for. I stand by the intent which was and is to point out the downside of buying imports.
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Yep, reckon I'm jes' too ignorant to put my head in the sand and ignore reality. Remember this post some day when you post, "Remember the good old days when there were knives made in America by Spyderco, Benchmade, Kershaw, Marbles, Schrade, Camillus, Becker, Ontario and Busse? What ever happened?"
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I think robots take more jobs than the Chinese. And with so many Americans without a college degree trying to find jobs requiring higher intellect, well you know where that goes
Let's please try to keep this thread on topic so it doesn't get closed. Anyone who does not wish to discuss the knives that are the topic of this thread can post in threads that have as the topic a knife or knives that are in fact of interest to the aforementioned person or persons.
I own dozens of knives, the majority of which cost over $100. I find Enlan knives to be a bargain for what they offer. They are not competing with the top manufacturers in terms of quality, F&F or materials. They produce knives that offer a lot in terms of utility for under $20. Obviously an Enlan 04mct isn't as pretty or fun to use as my Sage 2, nor does it rival the Sage 2 in terms of F&F. However, they are both knives and they will both cut things, contrary to what many people may think. The difference in terms of performance is something I haven't calculated nor do I intend to, because I really don't care enough to create a spreadsheet and graph data points. One costs 10x what the other costs. I prefer to carry and use my Sage 2, but I won't hesitate to carry and use an Enlan EL-04MCT for things that I'd rather not do with my more expensive knives. The other thing to keep in mind is the lack of warranty service for Enlan and similar brands, but that goes with the cheap cost.
I own dozens of knives, the majority of which cost over $100. I find Enlan knives to be a bargain for what they offer. They are not competing with the top manufacturers in terms of quality, F&F or materials. They produce knives that offer a lot in terms of utility for under $20. Obviously an Enlan 04mct isn't as pretty or fun to use as my Sage 2, nor does it rival the Sage 2 in terms of F&F. However, they are both knives and they will both cut things, contrary to what many people may think. The difference in terms of performance is something I haven't calculated nor do I intend to, because I really don't care enough to create a spreadsheet and graph data points. One costs 10x what the other costs. I prefer to carry and use my Sage 2, but I won't hesitate to carry and use an Enlan EL-04MCT for things that I'd rather not do with my more expensive knives. The other thing to keep in mind is the lack of warranty service for Enlan and similar brands, but that goes with the cheap cost.
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The big thing that draws the line for Chinese knives is what people are wanting. Some people prefer extreme value at a low price and can easily live with steel in the 8cr or 9cr families. Others think those steels inadequate and only want to sharpen their knives once a month and only want super steels. Different strokes for different folks, no reason to fight about it.
What I would like to see is more Chinese companies using materials like D2 and titanium at a higher than normal pricepoint, like $50-80. So long as the designs are somewhat original people will have nothing to complain about.
What I would like to see is more Chinese companies using materials like D2 and titanium at a higher than normal pricepoint, like $50-80. So long as the designs are somewhat original people will have nothing to complain about.
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Hmm, I looked up a couple of the 710 models that were mentioned on here. One is a rift design stolen from benchmade...the other a design stolen from sebenza. I began reading this thread with interest and an open mind, but all I see is more Chinese junk knockoffs. Those are the knives several on here are suggesting. Is that really the best China has to offer?
I don't know anything about Chinese knives, but I did a quick bit of research. Seems there might be a few guys over there making some good Chinese cleavers. I don't need a cleaver so I'm not going to spend all afternoon looking, but with 1.3 billion people and a culture that is thousands of years old, surely China has some decent knives to offer other than copies of American blades. If not, I find it a bit sad.
I don't know anything about Chinese knives, but I did a quick bit of research. Seems there might be a few guys over there making some good Chinese cleavers. I don't need a cleaver so I'm not going to spend all afternoon looking, but with 1.3 billion people and a culture that is thousands of years old, surely China has some decent knives to offer other than copies of American blades. If not, I find it a bit sad.
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Please, someone show me a quality knife designed and manufactured in China. In the image above posted by evilgreg, every one of those are stolen designs of high end knives, whose original manufacturers invested tens of thousands in design and R&D. And the Enlan towards the top - did they license the axis lock from Benchmade, or just steal it? Jeez... even the Russians (Shirogorov) got proper permission....
I have an open mind and can appreciate quality and originality, no-matter the country of origin. Blatant thievery, however, just pisses me off....
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Can you please list what knives the bottom four in the picture are copies of? The Hinderer and ZT 777 are obvious.
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Emerson, Dozier and Klotzli. I can't remember the silver one with CF - it'll come to me in a bit.
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Every single thing from that knife is deliberately lifted from an existing design.
Re-organizing lego's does not a good cutting tool make........
Add the word original in that sentence and you will get....... zero takers.
Re-organizing lego's does not a good cutting tool make........
Add the word original in that sentence and you will get....... zero takers.
Wow. They have some cool designs. Where can a guy purchase them? I tried their site, but it sucks pretty hard. Their DNA fixed blade looks amazing.There are a few, my favorite being Carson Technology.
How much do their knives usually run?
How are the carsons above not original? They use some elements of other knives like most other knives, but have never seen anything similar. In fact I can say I could recognize a Carson knife just from the style, just like I can recognize a benchmade, strider, CRK,...,etc.
You can email them, they ship worldwide. I also think they have a retailer in Canada. They run anywhere $300-700.
There are a few thread about them.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1011775-A-beast-from-CARSON-Tech-EVO
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/944268-Granite!!-intergal-folder
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Maybe it's not a focal point of their culture. Maybe producing and manufacturing goods is more what they're into. Maybe that explains why most everything has a MIC stamp and we owe them trillions of dollars.
But lets stay on topic. "The Enlan EL-01 and the SanRemNu 701 get a lot of praise. What other knives do you know of that deserve a shout that come directly from China?"