Chinese All-Stars!!! V.2

I'd be interested in a Chinese knife company selling quality traditional Chinese-styled knives. If there is such a company... :confused:

I'm not impressed by Chinese importers selling low-price mass-produced modern American-style knives. Sorry, just no interest. :cool:
 
blixxx said:
Maybe it's not a focal point of their culture. Maybe producing and manufacturing goods is more what they're into. Maybe that explains why most everything has a MIC stamp and we owe them trillions of dollars.

But lets stay on topic. "The Enlan EL-01 and the SanRemNu 701 get a lot of praise. What other knives do you know of that deserve a shout that come directly from China?"
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Sorry bro, but you made the topic and my post is a direct response to that topic. I disagree with the idea of calling some of the other suggestions "all-stars". i just cant classify a knockoff or a stolen design as an "all-star". You asked for opinions. That is mine. So my suggestion is some higher end Chinese cleavers. Very functional knives that are Chinese in design and origin. Like I said, I'm not very knowledgeable about who makes the best ones, but I've heard Chan Chi Kee is one of the decent brands that can be found in the U.S..
 
onespdfrk said:
Emerson, Dozier and Klotzli. I can't remember the silver one with CF - it'll come to me in a bit.
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It's funny, normally I buy these as a novelty thing, to see how they are. But the Bee L01 I actually like much better than my CQC-7B (an epic piece of crap with an unreliable lock and all the fit and finish of a product assembled by a confused person in a dark, dark room) so I suppose I should admit that I actually use that one.
 
GronK said:
Yep, reckon I'm jes' too ignorant to put my head in the sand and ignore reality. Remember this post some day when you post, "Remember the good old days when there were knives made in America by Spyderco, Benchmade, Kershaw, Marbles, Schrade, Camillus, Becker, Ontario and Busse? What ever happen

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Isn't the 0777 knock off still like a $130 knife? I know there are some decent Strider clones in that price range too, but I guess I don't get dropping that mich on a knock off when you could get a different US made design for the same price.

That said, I'm impressed but also scared at them upping the quality so much on some of their clones. Like others have said, it would be nice to see them put that effort into their own design. Hell, there are tons of US knife makers who would likely license their design to them at that level of quality.

I guess one thing you do have to consider is that over there getting a real Strider/ZT/Microtech is probably near impossible.
 
Surfingringo said:
Sorry bro, but you made the topic and my post is a direct response to that topic. I disagree with the idea of calling some of the other suggestions "all-stars". i just cant classify a knockoff or a stolen design as an "all-star". You asked for opinions. That is mine. So my suggestion is some higher end Chinese cleavers. Very functional knives that are Chinese in design and origin. Like I said, I'm not very knowledgeable about who makes the best ones, but I've heard Chan Chi Kee is one of the decent brands that can be found in the U.S..
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The second part of my post "...stay on topic..." wasn't directed towards you, sorry for the confusion.
 
o4tg said:
Isn't the 0777 knock off still like a $130 knife? I know there are some decent Strider clones in that price range too, but I guess I don't get dropping that mich on a knock off when you could get a different US made design for the same price.
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Yup, it was $114. As for getting a US design for the same money, I received two ZTs (including my new favorite, the 0801) and a Domino at around the same time, so it's not like my novelty purchase stopped the domestic spending exactly ;)
 
evilgreg said:
Yup, it was $114. As for getting a US design for the same money, I received two ZTs (including my new favorite, the 0801) and a Domino at around the same time, so it's not like my novelty purchase stopped the domestic spending exactly ;)
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Are you happy with it for that price? How's the lock up? Anything actually bad about it?
 
o4tg said:
Are you happy with it for that price? How's the lock up? Anything actually bad about it?
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The lock up is perfect, and it flips well, very well even, after a drop of nano-oil. The fit and finish are pretty good, the blade is centered and things are even for the most part. It feels light but tight, as knives go. Showed up very sharp right out of the box, as well. Even the fake damascus pattern at the top of the blade is pretty well done, the pattern continues all the way around, and even onto the hidden parts of the blade tang by the pivot.

That said, the knife is bulky, really bulky. The handle is comfy, but ginormous. Of course, these elements would be the same with the original, whose specs I believe it copies pretty closely.
 
symphonyincminor said:
Every single thing from that knife is deliberately lifted from an existing design.

Re-organizing lego's does not a good cutting tool make........




Add the word original in that sentence and you will get....... zero takers.
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By that logic Striders suck because they have an opening hole and LBS from Hinderers, and all knives with lockbacks are shameless clone ripoffs off a Buck 110.
Every knife with a liner lock sucks because they're not from Michael Walker, all framelock knives not named Sebenza suck because they're not from Chris Reeve :rolleyes:

OMG A FLIPPER HINDERER RIPOFF OMG FRAMELOCK NOT FROM CHRIS REEVE RIPOFF OMG LOCKBACK NOT FROM A 110, IS THAT AN OPENING HOLE? OHMAHGOD
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Seriously though, what do these knives blatantly copy? If they're from knives I don't know of then tell me. Chances are if I don't know what they're exactly ripping off then they're probably original designs because I spend at least an hour everyday looking around this forum and 7 online knife stores.
 
Mmm, I think the thing that puts people off sometimes about Chinese made knives (or whatever) is the complete disregard for what the rest of the world has accepted as patented or copywrited. If a company pulls that in the u.s., the company that has been copied has a legal right to put a stop to it. Chinese companies can kind of just raise their middle finger. So the only effective means we are left with (individually) is to boycott such products. That's what I choose to do, but I don't try to tell anyone else what they should do.

Having said that, I see your point, and agree with it to a degree. Just because china has a bad reputation in that regard doesn't mean they should be held up to unfair and unrealistic standards.
 
Bob W said:
I'd be interested in a Chinese knife company selling quality traditional Chinese-styled knives. If there is such a company... :confused:

I'm not impressed by Chinese importers selling low-price mass-produced modern American-style knives. Sorry, just no interest. :cool:
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Rock Creek ( Paul Chen's Company) makes a few modern interpretations of traditional Chinese knives, they are superbly made.
 
Is it still a knock-off if it is produced in China for US companies and then sold without the logo? For instance the H&K Ghost 3.0 by Benchmade and the Sanrenmu ZB4-T21. I am not sure, but I think that they are made in the same place by the same manufacturer. By the way I have the H&K Ghost 3.5 and I am very happy with it. I bought it as a beater knife for $20 at my local sporting goods store and it has impressed me. I use it for chores while working in the yard and it performes great. It holds a decent edge and sharpens up easily to a wicked edge! :thumbup:
 
This is not be be right and wrong,this is about the correct thing...most of my knives are U.S made for decades but i'm live in.greece that means 3times more to pay for the knives i want but i'm still ordering,!what is the big problem to get something out of us..i think nothingso i dont help any homeless because i can't.. Isthis a crime??exccuse my poor englesh!!!!
 
mountaingreek said:
This is not be be right and wrong,this is about the correct thing...most of my knives are U.S made for decades but i'm live in.greece that means 3times more to pay for the knives i want but i'm still ordering,!what is the big problem to get something out of us..i think nothingso i dont help any homeless because i can't.. Isthis a crime??exccuse my poor englesh!!!!
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This is something I've been wondering about, about knife people not in the USA, They pay several times the amount we pay for American brand knives, but the Chinese knives are universally the same price for the most part. Also, it'd be weird for them to strongly care about a country they don't live in, just look at some British knife forums, they seem to be much more accepting of Sanrenmu and the like.
I do not think you're doing anything wrong, you're getting the best deal if you want to, I honestly would never pay 100+ for a Spyderco Tenacious or generic Kershaw black and silver assisted folder instead of comparable Chinese knives.
I'm also kinda tired of Sanrenmu and Enlan being relegated to cheap disposable beater status, IMO the very lowest form of tolerance, I actually like most of the designs I've seen from them.
 
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