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I am not sure what the toughness is for M390 but I am aiming for roughly around 61-62rc. Phil Wilson thinks that it is a good hardness for M390. Both Elmax and M390 are suppose to be a good deal tougher than S30v because of the finer grain structure that is achieved with Bohler's 3rd Gen powder technology. Gonna try and fill up my dewar with liquid Nitrogen tomorrow and get ready for some heating.