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DaveH: LOL !! A UFO was reported in the area during the test. During the other tests there were not reports of UFOs.Could this be the reason.
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Bors: No I haven't.
Hammers also work harden - ie. the face gets harder with use. I think this would happen a lot faster if it was used to hit something harder than the hammer (the prev mentioned possibility of the hammer shattering). I think the hammer probably would be more likely to shatter as this use continues - be careful and you may want to change out this hammer every so often.
When you clamp one end of a knife in a vice and beat the other end with a hammer, the magnitude of force is much greater than anything you can do holding the knife in your hand (without beating it with a hammer). With the large moment that is put on the knife doing this, maybe what caused the knife to fail was related to a lack of tensile strength?
Nice idea Evolute, and thanks for the comments, stabman.![]()
Noss designed the tests to make knives fail and he was successful.
Yes and they have all failed..But they did not fail equally. If someone wants to go count the hammer hits between the GB and the Busse FFBM or the GI Tanto then be my guest. The number difference here will be very,very big.
first that is a sludge hammer made for impacting, and its impacting and bending it is far far below its yield point to make any effect on that hammer, we have a guy that makes semi trailer door pipe, this consists of drilling two holes one at each end, installing a 5/16th thick stainless rivet at each hole and smacking it around 7 times to deform it enough to hold the parts together, the table it lays on is 6" thick steel, lets see, to cover his working time means he has to make 86 pipe, so thats 172 rivets, and about 1,204 whacks everyday, 40 hours a week, and he has used this hammer for around 3 years now, you can do the math on that, I thick Noss's hammer will be just fine, but thanks for your safety concern.
Nice idea Evolute, and thanks for the comments, stabman.![]()
That is true to a certain extent. In this case, it is without functional merit.As has been shown by this thread what two people observe is subjective.
Two independent tests have been done with strikingly similar results. That would be a repetition.Hard repeatable data is objective.
There's video. Take a look.If two or more of these tests can be done and someone can show how much, how hard, what force, how and where it was clamped and it then I would call it data.
You can't tell how hard someone is swinging a hammer while watching him?Even the tester can not tell you how hard he strikes with the hammer.
Wow, i read this whole thread in one sitting, as well as parts of the other referenced Cliff/gb thread too. Now I want to take a nap.
Yes it could be made from a tougher steel... Maybe Jerry Busse could help he seems always willing to help our troops.
But clearly the Special Forces dont have any problems with it otherwise they'd stop using it. What i really wonder is how often the Special Forces are actually using these knives?
It is my understanding that people in Elite Groups like these often get momentos like this that they can never actually use, they simply put it away as a treasured commemorative.
Its my understanding from friends in the service (past and present) and other sources (books, shows forums, etc) I visit that Army Special Forces are rarely in uniform while in the field and and even in uniform wouldnt be carrying something that would so obviously give them away as more valuable to terrorists as prisoners than other guys. With the war on terror that seems more true than ever before.
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