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Hello my friends!! Yes another long boring thread by the infamous mikepapa1 (that would be me).
And of course my good friend Steve (Cowboy1629) would be very disappointed if I didn't include a long boring story. So, here goes..
Back around June or July of 2013 I really started getting into this "Thing of Ours" that is CRK. As you all are painfully aware by now and as our good friend and fellow Chris Reeve enthusiasts stjames so accurately stated in another one of my posts "you really got it bad don't you Dave" Yes Jim, I do!!
Oh yea back to the story.. so I only had a couple of CRK'S at the time and was really interested to adding a Sebenza 25 to my growing collection. I had done a little research on the 25 and discovered that the knife being offered by CRK and its authorized dealers was different then the early versions of the knife.
There of course was the Prototype.. which I still have not warmed up to because of price. And then there were the approximately 29 units in the first run which shipped in 2012. From what I have been able to determine it not only had a couple of subtle differences not found on later production but a couple of issues as well, mainly the screws and in particular the one for the back spacer.. (I apologize for any incorrect terminology) the differences which were pointed out in a very good video on YouTube by our good friend Rich (1AbominAble1) who was able to obtain one of the first 29 knives from another friend of ours Pat (aidansdaddy17) back in December of 2012. Again I am taking the long way around the barn but feel that it might be of interest to those who are new to CRK.
Ok, the subtle differences as described by Rich in his Video. One was just a difference in the look and configuration of the stop pin. The 25's produced in 2012 had as did many if not all Sebenzas manufactured at the time grooves in the stop pin. (they have been described in another thread as a way to keep dirt and lint from accumulating?) Another difference in the first production run was in the contour or lack of at the very end of the lock bar. The lock bar on the first production knives was apparently cut at a straight angel with no champers as found on the later production models and apparently was kind of "sharp". And last and most familiar to most of us was the "press fit" stop pin which is easily identified by the lack of a screw head on the lock bar side as well as it being much smaller in diameter. So if you have read this far let me just say you may also have a problem...
but I am almost done for now!!
So, a couple of changes were made on the knives in subsequent production, one the deletion of the grooves in the stop bar which from what I can gather was made across all models. Secondly the change to the contour of the end of the lock bar. And lastly the elimination of the "press fit" stop pin.. which was not done until later. Exactly how much later is not entirely clear to me but it was fairly early into full blown production. Some time in the first couple of months of last year. (I am sure much of this useless information has been covered before). Finally we come to the reason and thankfully the end of this very long post. Although I have not yet been willing to take the plunge on a Sebenza 25 Prototype, again because of the price. And have not been able to track down one of the first 29 production models made in 2012. I was very fortunate to acquire one of the early 25's with the press fit stop pin in LINB condition. I mean this thing is sweet!! And I have another one of our good friends Matt (Sketch32) to thank!! Thanks again Matt!!
So without out further ado here is a link to some photos that I took after it arrived today.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/105937865@N07/sets/72157640810518863/
Link to original sales thread:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...hevron-Strider-SMF-and-Chris-Reeve-Sebenza-25
Link to "Grooves" in stop pin thread. by Cody (kidcongo)
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...explain-the-science?highlight=Groved+stop+pin
Here is another link that I found thanks to A post by Cody (kidcongo) it explains everything that I was trying to describe much better than I can!! It is an awesome thread by Steel_Addiction from back June 14 2013. "Sebenza 25 - The Be All End All Knife aka "The One". Must reading IMHO.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...he-Be-All-End-All-Knife-aka-quot-The-One-quot
P.S. If anyone out there owns one of the first 29 production 25's manufactured in 2012 that has not been modified and you are tired of it, give me a shout!!
All the best, Dave
P.S.S. The handles (scales) have a code date of A 12. I think this is interesting due to the low production numbers of this model early on. I have a later version with a Birth Card of May 30 2013 and the date is A 13
And of course my good friend Steve (Cowboy1629) would be very disappointed if I didn't include a long boring story. So, here goes.. Back around June or July of 2013 I really started getting into this "Thing of Ours" that is CRK. As you all are painfully aware by now and as our good friend and fellow Chris Reeve enthusiasts stjames so accurately stated in another one of my posts "you really got it bad don't you Dave" Yes Jim, I do!!
Oh yea back to the story.. so I only had a couple of CRK'S at the time and was really interested to adding a Sebenza 25 to my growing collection. I had done a little research on the 25 and discovered that the knife being offered by CRK and its authorized dealers was different then the early versions of the knife.
There of course was the Prototype.. which I still have not warmed up to because of price. And then there were the approximately 29 units in the first run which shipped in 2012. From what I have been able to determine it not only had a couple of subtle differences not found on later production but a couple of issues as well, mainly the screws and in particular the one for the back spacer.. (I apologize for any incorrect terminology) the differences which were pointed out in a very good video on YouTube by our good friend Rich (1AbominAble1) who was able to obtain one of the first 29 knives from another friend of ours Pat (aidansdaddy17) back in December of 2012. Again I am taking the long way around the barn but feel that it might be of interest to those who are new to CRK.
Ok, the subtle differences as described by Rich in his Video. One was just a difference in the look and configuration of the stop pin. The 25's produced in 2012 had as did many if not all Sebenzas manufactured at the time grooves in the stop pin. (they have been described in another thread as a way to keep dirt and lint from accumulating?) Another difference in the first production run was in the contour or lack of at the very end of the lock bar. The lock bar on the first production knives was apparently cut at a straight angel with no champers as found on the later production models and apparently was kind of "sharp". And last and most familiar to most of us was the "press fit" stop pin which is easily identified by the lack of a screw head on the lock bar side as well as it being much smaller in diameter. So if you have read this far let me just say you may also have a problem...
but I am almost done for now!!So, a couple of changes were made on the knives in subsequent production, one the deletion of the grooves in the stop bar which from what I can gather was made across all models. Secondly the change to the contour of the end of the lock bar. And lastly the elimination of the "press fit" stop pin.. which was not done until later. Exactly how much later is not entirely clear to me but it was fairly early into full blown production. Some time in the first couple of months of last year. (I am sure much of this useless information has been covered before). Finally we come to the reason and thankfully the end of this very long post. Although I have not yet been willing to take the plunge on a Sebenza 25 Prototype, again because of the price. And have not been able to track down one of the first 29 production models made in 2012. I was very fortunate to acquire one of the early 25's with the press fit stop pin in LINB condition. I mean this thing is sweet!! And I have another one of our good friends Matt (Sketch32) to thank!! Thanks again Matt!!
So without out further ado here is a link to some photos that I took after it arrived today.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/105937865@N07/sets/72157640810518863/
Link to original sales thread:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...hevron-Strider-SMF-and-Chris-Reeve-Sebenza-25
Link to "Grooves" in stop pin thread. by Cody (kidcongo)
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...explain-the-science?highlight=Groved+stop+pin
Here is another link that I found thanks to A post by Cody (kidcongo) it explains everything that I was trying to describe much better than I can!! It is an awesome thread by Steel_Addiction from back June 14 2013. "Sebenza 25 - The Be All End All Knife aka "The One". Must reading IMHO.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...he-Be-All-End-All-Knife-aka-quot-The-One-quot
P.S. If anyone out there owns one of the first 29 production 25's manufactured in 2012 that has not been modified and you are tired of it, give me a shout!!
All the best, Dave
P.S.S. The handles (scales) have a code date of A 12. I think this is interesting due to the low production numbers of this model early on. I have a later version with a Birth Card of May 30 2013 and the date is A 13
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