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I had a fine idea. Do you think that SOG would be interested in having a review done by someone on several of the newer SOG knives to address questions concerning manufacturing, reliability, general fit and finish, etc. to dispel (if that's the case) all of the current worry that potential customers may have? I was thinking, I'd certainly like to give several of these knives a day in court and maybe you guys would like a nice review and write-up out of it. If you guys would be interested, we could work something out where you guys could send me some knives to review and I'll send them back when I'm done. I certainly don't want anything for free out of this. I just want to find out for myself and for all the other unsure potential customers and I think it would definitely be to your (SOG's) benefit to have a serious, unbiased, objective review. I'm going to have a lot of time off coming up over the next couple of months so I'll have some time to go out and do some serious testing of the knives for a good all around review. I also have a professional photographer on stand-by to take pictures. When it is done, you can use the copy and photos as you please. So what do you say? Are you guys up for it. If you need any references as far as whether or not I'm a trustworthy guy and whether or not my opinion is that of a real knife user, I can give you the contact information for a few well respected people in the knife biz who know me personally.

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Also, I'm not considering doing any destruction testing or anything like that. I consider that stuff useless. I'll be using the knives as they are meant to be used and per SOG's recommendations.
 
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Well I am all for some SOGs to pass around to Dylside for reviews and testing. It would do some good for SOG to clear up "quality issues" and other half-truths that have been going around.

Bear in mind of the new law guys - if a review involves any money between producer and reviewer it HAS to be stated in the review explicitly.

Also I hope there won't be money involved (from SOG). And if a SOG knife has defects or does not hold up to standard it should be written in the review too. I would never trust a one-sided review or one from a Dealer.

I do hate reviews crafted in such a way that the knife performs well at everything and some obvious parts are left out. It is geared towards sale of the product and not a truthful representation of the knife's performance. This is not what we should see.

Perhaps we can wait for Chris to discuss this with his department. But like I said, a fair review of the product and not a new marketing/sales strategy please.
 
Well I am all for some SOGs to pass around to Dylside for reviews and testing. It would do some good for SOG to clear up "quality issues" and other half-truths that have been going around.

Bear in mind of the new law guys - if a review involves any money between producer and reviewer it HAS to be stated in the review explicitly.

Also I hope there won't be money involved (from SOG). And if a SOG knife has defects or does not hold up to standard it should be written in the review too. I would never trust a one-sided review or one from a Dealer.

I do hate reviews crafted in such a way that the knife performs well at everything and some obvious parts are left out. It is geared towards sale of the product and not a truthful representation of the knife's performance. This is not what we should see.

Perhaps we can wait for Chris to discuss this with his department. But like I said, a fair review of the product and not a new marketing/sales strategy please.

Don't worry. It will certainly be an honest review.

It is important to bare in mind that I'm not going into this LOOKING for failure from these knives. I'm heading into this review from a purely objective standpoint. I want to find out if the quality matches the expectations laid out by SOG for what these knives are designed to be used for.

This endeavor is meant to educate myself and other potential customers and to give us piece of mind (if that's the case) concerning purchasing these knives from SOG. That's all. This whole thing is stemming from my personal curiosity.

I've already told Chris that I don't want any money to change hands. There will be nothing about this to sway me in favor OR out of favor. I have no personal gripes about SOG, and at the same time, have no ties to them that gain them special favor from me.

I have a reputation with people that know me of being honest an objective. Someone who knows this well is Jeff Randall of RAT Cutlery. Jeff is a personal friend of mine and values my opinions for their honesty. He knows that being my friend doesn't mean that I'm going to agree with every design that RAT Cutlery produces and that I won't hesitate to encourage people in a different direction if I don't think that the product they want is the right product for their application. I'm not the type of person that goes out and buys every knife made by a company that I like just because it has their name on it and it's supposed to be their latest and greatest.

With all that said, rest assured that I'm not going to be giving a biased review. I tell it like it is. Now that doesn't mean that I will be a dick about flaws that I might encounter in a product and make a big deal about them, but I certainly won't leave anything out in an effort to make a product look better than it is.




dang!
sorry, but wouldn't each new prototype be thoroughly evaluated firsthand on it's design aspects and undergone material testing well BEFORE being put into the full swing of production??
a standard set of test at least??
a military standard for example...
www.lbainternational.com/eickhorn/mk_producttesting.htm

Absolutely. I'm sure that SOG does no shortage of testing on all of their products and does a great job of evaluating everything they plan to release for purchase. However, SOG is also a business. While I'm not making any accusations or assumptions concerning their being forthcoming, at the same time, they are a business. That being the case, it's not easy for the average customer to be confident in a company being brutally honest about their products and the quality of manufacturing. I'm not saying that SOG's manufacturing isn't wonderful, that they are dishonest about the level of quality, etc. I'm simply saying that a customer who reads reviews trusts the reviews, not the manufacturer. So, until their is a standard military style testing that is carried out by some third party on every single knife that is produced and sold, we have nothing to go on but reviews from outside people who have handled the products and tested them themselves and the companies who produced the product.

So yes, the products are evaluated and tested before they go into mass production and sales, but it's done by the company who's product quality is in question. That's where an outside party doing their own testing becomes valuable.
 
Ok guys and girls. I just got off the phone with Chris, really nice guy by the way, and we're going ahead with this. He's going to send me a couple of products in question to test out, including the one I was most interested in, the New Fusion Hunter Revolver, and we'll see how they stack up. I'll keep everyone up to date on what I do with the knives and I'll have a thorough review when I'm done.
 
Got the knives today. The nice guys at SOG sent me a Hunter Revolver and a Salute to review. Don't hold your breath. These reviews are going to be thorough and will be done over a few different outings, so it's not going to be an overnight, rushed thing. Now to go out and kill an animal to test the guthook. ;) I'll keep you guys updated on the goings on.
 
This is good. I've been hearing some good things about these knives so far..........all except the sheath.


Robbie Roberson. :o
 
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Ok boys and girls. The Hunter Revolver will be making a trip to the hunt camp this weekend. Unfortunately I can't go because I have family coming into town for Thanksgiving, so I'm sending it down there with a friend of mine who is confident that he'll bag a deer this weekend. I told him to take notes on everything and use the knife to process the deer until it gets too dull to use and report to me everything about the knife from his point of view. The good thing about this situation is that he has no experience with SOG knives, has no idea about the change in manufacturing, and will be giving his opinions based on an average hunter's perspective. In addition to this time out, I also plan on heading out on the next hunting trip to process a couple of animals with it. It will be very interesting to see what he thinks of the knife. He has been a hunter for several decades, so he's not green and will give a valuable opinion of the knife.
 
Thanks for taking the time to do the knife community a favor Dylside :thumbup:

No problem bro. By the way, if anyone has an original Hunter Revolver and wouldn't mind me asking them a couple of questions over the phone, I would much appreciate it. If you don't mind, shoot me an email with your number.
 
Pick ME, I have a phone ! :o

Or you could ask a couple of our forum members here that has posted numerous pics and reviews on the original Revolver and have used/tested it for many years.

The names that first come to my mind is Fonly and Jetsrb32.........or my old pal Wildmanh (Heber) who has owned one of the SEAL models from day one almost.

There have been many more reviewers but my mind does not remember to well especially after turkey...........

These guys above have posted many reviews with excellent pics ect. and all on there on without any coaxing or coaching from me..........(really)...........just compliments on there fantastic pics etc.

I have not heard from Fonly in a while, hope he is ok.

Of course this decision is up to you since it is your review. :)

Feel free to email me any time and get my number if you want to talk to me.



Robbie Roberson.
RobbieRob600@gmail.com
 
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No problem bro. By the way, if anyone has an original Hunter Revolver and wouldn't mind me asking them a couple of questions over the phone, I would much appreciate it. If you don't mind, shoot me an email with your number.

Feel free to email me (check my sig). As Robbie has said, I've had a Seal Revolver since Summer 2003 which is around the time they came out.

Heber
 
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