I used to smoke a 1/2-a pack of Lucky Strikes a day and did so for only around 9 years. It was so hard to quit that I started dipping when I'd get a craving. Now that I weaned myself off cigarettes, I've spent the past month or two weaning myself off dip. I haven't had a pinch in a week so I'm doing alright. It's always down hill after the first month. It was the same way when I quit smoking herbs.
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Cigarettes and Smoking
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arguable.....
people react differently. my grandmother smoked two packs a day until she died, for probably 35-40 years. she never developed any tobacco related illness, and her death was totally unrelated (she od'd on pills).
most people will never suffer serious negative effects of tobacco or alcohol. not everyone who smokes gets cancer, not everyone who drinks gets cirrhosis (sp?) of the liver.
smoking is stigmatized to a degree most other addictions are not, even illegal narcotics.
people think its ok to walk up to a total stranger and tell them smoking will kill them. maybe, but i didn't f***ing ask!
ever walk up to a fat lady at mcdonalds and tell her to put down the fries?
Esav Benyamin
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Step .. away .. from .. the .. cooking .. oil! Now!
Ironman, it sounds from what you said like you really do have some serious problems in your life. Well, guess what? A lot of us do, so don't feel like the Lone Ranger, buddy. You still have your life and it's up to you to grab your ass, pick yourself up, and make it all at least a little bit better.
Yeah, life's a bitch sometimes. Tough. At least it's still a life. Do something with it besides sucking on cigarettes and feeling sorry for yourself. Obviously you know how to use a computer. It may be a poor substitute for a real social life, but it sure beats not having one at all. I know that for a fact.
Hey, lots of us have serious health problems. Without boring you with mine, let's just say I'm old, crippled, and have other serious health issues. Some days it's not easy, but all I know how to do is just keep on keepin' on and make the best of the hand I've been dealt.
When I was in the 4th grade and long before you were born, me and the kids I played with turned in enough pop bottles for the deposit so we could buy a pack of cigarettes and share them. Dad heard about this, like good parents are likely to do, and he took me aside and told me if I wanted to smoke I could try one of his. He lit up a Camel, passed it to me, and said, "Here, take a drag on this." After I quit coughing a couple of minutes later I understood what he wanted to teach me. Some decades later, watching him die slowly and painfully of cancer over nine months at home taught me his final lesson. I'm not that brave I don't think, but he had gone ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day and he had learned a thing or two about being brave. Dad was a man. He quit smoking 30 years before it killed him, too.
I know how addictive cigarettes are. Hell, man, a few years ago my own doctor died because he wouldn't or couldn't quit smoking! He was still a young man, too, but an aggressive form of lung cancer killed him, despite the fact that he had traveled to get treatment from the best specialists he could find. He left behind a wife and a very young child, too. He wasn't much older than you, Ironman.
I'm about to quit preaching now, but I still want to tell you this. It sounds like you think your life is so damn bad you don't want to live. If that really is the case, then be a man about it and get it over with. Cigarettes are not the way to do it. If you really must end it all, go outside where the trees and the sky are beautiful to look up at and where you won't make as big a mess for somebody else to have to clean up, then put a gun to your temple and put a bullet through your brain. If that doesn't sound so good, then borrow a water hose, put it up the tailpipe of somebody's car or truck, stick the other end inside with you, and sit there with the windows rolled up and the engine running until you go to sleep one last time. That's a lot cleaner, but it takes a little longer. Just please be sure you park where they'll find your body before it rots. After more than one day in the summer sun they'll never get the terrible stink out and the vehicle will be a total loss. I know about that. Somebody I knew spent a week in the woods in the summertime before they found his awful, rotted corpse in the cab of a real nice truck that he should have left for somebody else to use.
Ironman, straighten you ass up, find something to still enjoy instead of smoking, and make the best of what you have left. It could always be worse!
Yeah, life's a bitch sometimes. Tough. At least it's still a life. Do something with it besides sucking on cigarettes and feeling sorry for yourself. Obviously you know how to use a computer. It may be a poor substitute for a real social life, but it sure beats not having one at all. I know that for a fact.
Hey, lots of us have serious health problems. Without boring you with mine, let's just say I'm old, crippled, and have other serious health issues. Some days it's not easy, but all I know how to do is just keep on keepin' on and make the best of the hand I've been dealt.
When I was in the 4th grade and long before you were born, me and the kids I played with turned in enough pop bottles for the deposit so we could buy a pack of cigarettes and share them. Dad heard about this, like good parents are likely to do, and he took me aside and told me if I wanted to smoke I could try one of his. He lit up a Camel, passed it to me, and said, "Here, take a drag on this." After I quit coughing a couple of minutes later I understood what he wanted to teach me. Some decades later, watching him die slowly and painfully of cancer over nine months at home taught me his final lesson. I'm not that brave I don't think, but he had gone ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day and he had learned a thing or two about being brave. Dad was a man. He quit smoking 30 years before it killed him, too.
I know how addictive cigarettes are. Hell, man, a few years ago my own doctor died because he wouldn't or couldn't quit smoking! He was still a young man, too, but an aggressive form of lung cancer killed him, despite the fact that he had traveled to get treatment from the best specialists he could find. He left behind a wife and a very young child, too. He wasn't much older than you, Ironman.
I'm about to quit preaching now, but I still want to tell you this. It sounds like you think your life is so damn bad you don't want to live. If that really is the case, then be a man about it and get it over with. Cigarettes are not the way to do it. If you really must end it all, go outside where the trees and the sky are beautiful to look up at and where you won't make as big a mess for somebody else to have to clean up, then put a gun to your temple and put a bullet through your brain. If that doesn't sound so good, then borrow a water hose, put it up the tailpipe of somebody's car or truck, stick the other end inside with you, and sit there with the windows rolled up and the engine running until you go to sleep one last time. That's a lot cleaner, but it takes a little longer. Just please be sure you park where they'll find your body before it rots. After more than one day in the summer sun they'll never get the terrible stink out and the vehicle will be a total loss. I know about that. Somebody I knew spent a week in the woods in the summertime before they found his awful, rotted corpse in the cab of a real nice truck that he should have left for somebody else to use.
Ironman, straighten you ass up, find something to still enjoy instead of smoking, and make the best of what you have left. It could always be worse!
No one needs to preach to the guy, he knows what he's doing and he likes doing it. Nuff said. Everyone and their mother knows the ill effects of tobacco products and the possibility of life threatening ailments/disease with the use of said products.
I figure if you want to smoke, then go for it. We've all got our vices. I figure it's more dangerous to be obese then to smoke. I'm sure there's more obese people out there than smokers....at least it seems like it every time I'm out in public.
If you're smoking (or doing ANY potentially harmful substance) because you're feeling sorry for yourself then that's another thing. If you were sitting fat, in perfect physical condition, with a house full of kids, a beautiful wife with huge cans that's horny 24/7, and go to a easy but high paying job 5 days a week.....would you still smoke? If your answer is no, then you're doing yourself wrong.
No one's life is perfect, and we ALL have our low points. All the more reason to pick yourself up, dust off, and keep on going. It can always get worse and can ALWAYS get better. You've got to decide which way to go. Your life isn't over. If your life sucks, it's only temporary. You can improve it....attitude is everything....at times, it's been all you've got. Every time things get tough, it's just a part of the tempering of your will. Having a good life has nothing to do with the longevity of it, it's what you do with what you got.
I figure if you want to smoke, then go for it. We've all got our vices. I figure it's more dangerous to be obese then to smoke. I'm sure there's more obese people out there than smokers....at least it seems like it every time I'm out in public.
If you're smoking (or doing ANY potentially harmful substance) because you're feeling sorry for yourself then that's another thing. If you were sitting fat, in perfect physical condition, with a house full of kids, a beautiful wife with huge cans that's horny 24/7, and go to a easy but high paying job 5 days a week.....would you still smoke? If your answer is no, then you're doing yourself wrong.
No one's life is perfect, and we ALL have our low points. All the more reason to pick yourself up, dust off, and keep on going. It can always get worse and can ALWAYS get better. You've got to decide which way to go. Your life isn't over. If your life sucks, it's only temporary. You can improve it....attitude is everything....at times, it's been all you've got. Every time things get tough, it's just a part of the tempering of your will. Having a good life has nothing to do with the longevity of it, it's what you do with what you got.
Oh, and it might be good to consider that your attitude and outlook may have something to do with why your wife left you....it wouldn't do to make the same mistake with the next woman in your life. May also be the reason why you're friendless. I'm not poking fun or picking at you...I'm dead serious and trying to be helpful.
If you want to smoke, smoke. You will quit when you want to and if you dont want to you wont. I smoked over 50 years and never quit at any time and had no health problems. I enjoyed smoking and to hell with everyone else.
A while back I got pissed paying $6 a pack and smoking two packs a day and being retired. I decided Id had enough and would just stop. I havent had so much as a puff and will never smoke again.
A while back I got pissed paying $6 a pack and smoking two packs a day and being retired. I decided Id had enough and would just stop. I havent had so much as a puff and will never smoke again.
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thx for an adult response instead of unsolicited advice. my feelings exactly.
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Brian, you got incoming email.
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I'm not going to be all on this.
Quit smoking in March, after 23 years. High blood pressure, and a spike as high as 180 systolic with feelings of light headedness and heart arrythmia did it for me.
This is my issue: lousy interpersonal skills, but someone unknown gives this guy a kidney? That my friends is divine intervention....and then he doesn't have enough $$ for organ anti-rejection medication? That is human stupidity or piss poor planning.
Sorry, my compassion meter is pegged.....if you want to smoke while checking the gas tank, be my guest....try to do it quietly, away from other people.
Perhaps instead of wallowing in your self-pity, you could find something of value to do with yourself before you die....make a positive difference....like someone did for you. If you want to smoke while you are doing it, enjoy!
If I knew I was going to die in a fairly short period of time, I would go back to smoking like a chimney....but I am a self-absorbed POS, a lot of the time.
STeven Garsson
Quit smoking in March, after 23 years. High blood pressure, and a spike as high as 180 systolic with feelings of light headedness and heart arrythmia did it for me.
This is my issue: lousy interpersonal skills, but someone unknown gives this guy a kidney? That my friends is divine intervention....and then he doesn't have enough $$ for organ anti-rejection medication? That is human stupidity or piss poor planning.
Sorry, my compassion meter is pegged.....if you want to smoke while checking the gas tank, be my guest....try to do it quietly, away from other people.
Perhaps instead of wallowing in your self-pity, you could find something of value to do with yourself before you die....make a positive difference....like someone did for you. If you want to smoke while you are doing it, enjoy!
If I knew I was going to die in a fairly short period of time, I would go back to smoking like a chimney....but I am a self-absorbed POS, a lot of the time.
STeven Garsson
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