Clarification of why everyone loves the Mora

Today my mom said to me what i didnt hear for a while. With enough brawn you dont need the brain to use it.. She used to tell me that more offten when i were a kid.. Yes i broke another thing that normal people using there brain should not break in the first place. This applies to this thread too if you think about it.

I realy think this thread and all the ones like it are same as a dead horse that everyone keep on beating on. People there is nothing left of it. Lets kick it a few more times poke it in the eye. Then bury it so the horse can rest now. Everyone keep saying same thing. Nothing new. For me i carry a Mora and a larger knife. I just never used the larger knife as of yet. Well i did once but i had nothing to do and choped a small dead tree with it.

Sasha
 
skammer said:
Its not pretty, watching how I use blades, but I am far from alone in how and why.
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Well heck, man, you should learn to do it properly! It isn't all that hard!

In all seriousness, I can understand why someone who might have to try to get the most tool for the least weight would beat the hell out of a knife - that might be the only tool they can have on them. But I just don't need to be so weight conscious. I don't mind hauling the weight of an axe with me, I'm just out in the bush for fun, or sometimes for work, but lives don't depend on that extra couple of pounds of weight I carry. So I have proper tools for each job, and don't ask my knives to pry boulders off my legs. Actually I don't have any tools that I specifically carry for prying boulders. The only thing I can think of that would be practical to do that with would be a Burke bar. But I just can't being myself to carry a twenty pound chunk of steel in case I have to pry boulders! But sure, if you need a prybar knife, a mora is not that. It's for cutting. It cuts. A sharp mora will cut wood, leather, flesh (cooked or raw) clothing, cordura, and silnylon with ease. Probably other materials as well, but that's all I can think of doing off hand right now. I have cut though some light duty copper wire, I guess, and also fiberglass filtercloth, very tough on knives. The moras were fine for that. They don't chop at all, and they aren't so hot on prying either, I would guess. I do that with my axes, so I don't have an issue with that.

I can well afford any knife I'd like to have - hell, I drive an old $1200 truck, have inexpensive tastses, no dependents, no bad habits like gambling, drinking or smoking, a cheap old house, and I make a hundred thousand bucks a year. I could probably buy ten Busse knives a month if I really wanted to. But what do I want with a sharp prybar? I don't even enjoy my Scrapyard knife. No Busse will chop anything like any of my axes, I can tell you that. And I guess I am just going on blind faith that I won't have to pry anything that I can't pry with an axe, but could pry with a foot long chunk of steel. I'm not sure what that would be, but if I run across something, I promise to post about it, unless it is a medium-size boulder pinning me down and I can't get to a computer.

But I don't dispute that for some people, under the right circumstances, one of those knives would be the only acceptable tool, and I think anyone who needs a sharp prybar ought to have one. Why not?

On the other hand, if they tell me my tool solutions are lousy because they are not appropriate to those specific circumstances, I will just laugh. Okay, man! Whatever you say! I spend enough time in the bush to be comfortable with my choices. Anyone who doesn't...ought to spend more time in the bush, it's nice out there.
 
Price aside, I would still put my mora up against any knife. But were the mora really shines is the price, because they are so affordable you can afford to have a couple lying around, and you can buy one for someone that doesn't have a knife, or someone that needs something better than there cheap POS china knife. Sure they don't look great, and that's why a lot of people have a different knife that is there favorite go to knife, but when, for some reason, that pretty, high dollar knife is lost broken or just not there, at least you have a backup that you can use with confidence.

Like I said, they are perfect for giving to people who need a knife, because they are cheap for you and are a quality blade for your friend, and are easy to sharpen, so they can learn how to keep there knife sharp very easily. They are a great first knife, and great learning how to sharpen freehand knife.

Also, for people who like carbon blades, like me, I can get one of these instead of having to fork out for a custom. None of the name brands that you would find at you local/chain hunting/fishing stores offer knives made with carbon steel.
 
misanthropist said:
In all seriousness, I can understand why someone who might have to try to get the most tool for the least weight would beat the hell out of a knife - that might be the only tool they can have on them. .
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I have the need and I am skilled in its use. I need an axe a prybar and a knife and yes you can have all 3 in one tool. Not ideal but very effective for what I use it for.

Skam
 
skammer said:
Many people have the need to own and use expensive super knives. Some view that with envy and judge.

Skam
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OK..... not sure what to say to that other than those of us that have used Moras do not feel that way, and are not in that position. None the less.... go with what you like.:rolleyes:
 
skammer said:
I have the need and I am skilled in its use. I need an axe a prybar and a knife and yes you can have all 3 in one tool. Not ideal but very effective for what I use it for.

Skam
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HUH:confused: Maybe you can entertain a ???. What for? :confused:
 
I've got about half a dozen of those cheap plastic handled knives and I like them all. I've been using the Mora 2000 the most.

As for me, it's the scandi grind that I like. They are just so dog-gone easy to sharpen in the field.

A few days ago I reground a 760 (green handle/stainless) into a wharncliff. I also totally reshaped/resized the handle. I hope to get pics tomorrow.
 
sasha said:
Today my mom said to me what i didnt hear for a while. With enough brawn you dont need the brain to use it.. She used to tell me that more offten when i were a kid.. Yes i broke another thing that normal people using there brain should not break in the first place. This applies to this thread too if you think about it.

I realy think this thread and all the ones like it are same as a dead horse that everyone keep on beating on. People there is nothing left of it. Lets kick it a few more times poke it in the eye. Then bury it so the horse can rest now. Everyone keep saying same thing. Nothing new. For me i carry a Mora and a larger knife. I just never used the larger knife as of yet. Well i did once but i had nothing to do and choped a small dead tree with it.

Sasha
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I had an engineering professor say "You can accomplish anything through brute strength and ignorance."

I may pick up a mora eventually but not because I need or want it. It's like a Mosin, so cheap that it's almost stupid NOT to own one.

Edited to add: I'm a fan of super strong knives for the woods. I can afford them so why the heck wouldn't I use one. This argument is the same as saying all anyone needs is an accord, so why do people own Mercedes' three times the price? Because they can and they enjoy a little more performance even though it may not be needed(or cost effective.);) If you like the mora and can't afford something better or are just satisfied with an Accord like performance, fine. If you want the performance of Mercedes and can buy one, do it. A better question would be that if a Busse cost $12 bucks, would you then STILL choose the Mora?
 
misanthropist said:
On the other hand, if they tell me my tool solutions are lousy because they are not appropriate to those specific circumstances, I will just laugh. Okay, man! Whatever you say! I spend enough time in the bush to be comfortable with my choices. Anyone who doesn't...ought to spend more time in the bush, it's nice out there.
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This is where I'm at. I carry the gear that puts my mind at ease. Someone snickers that I have a big knife and "What do you need that for?" I just laugh it off too. Carry what you like and leave me alone.:D
 
Shotgun said:
I had an engineering professor say "You can accomplish anything through brute strength and ignorance."

I may pick up a mora eventually but not because I need or want it. It's like a Mosin, so cheap that it's almost stupid NOT to own one.

Edited to add: I'm a fan of super strong knives for the woods. I can afford them so why the heck wouldn't I use one. This argument is the same as saying all anyone needs is an accord, so why do people own Mercedes' three times the price? Because they can and they enjoy a little more performance even though it may not be needed(or cost effective.);) If you like the mora and can't afford something better or are just satisfied with an Accord like performance, fine. If you want the performance of Mercedes and can buy one, do it. A better question would be that if a Busse cost $12 bucks, would you then STILL choose the Mora?
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Of course not...I would probably grind the Busse down to a 4x1x1/8" scandi blade though!

I don't have any problem with super strong knives, I just don't have a use for huge ones. SO FAR, my experience with knives from the Busse family hasn't made me a believer. I feel like maybe the Mercedes is 3 times the comfort, twice the acceleration and 3 times the price, but also 3 times the maintainance, and 2/3 the cornering. Does it balance out? Hard to say. I definitely don't come away from the deal thinking you'd be nuts not to buy a Mercedes if you had the money.

But note that I never argue against people having Busse knives, or against people having big knives. I don't PERSONALLY have any use for that type of knife, i.e. the Battle Mistress etc, and I find it hard to believe that people are constantly breaking their moras through anything other than pure non-use abuse, because I am a big user of knives, and I have never had a problem of any sort with a mora, ever.

But I have absolutely nothing against people using any tool they find convenient or effective. If you can afford it and it works for you, then you should own it, and use it. Anyone who says different is out to lunch.

You know I may pick up a BM eventually, but also not because I need it or want it specifically. It might just be interesting to own such an iconic knife. But I would buy something like a Skookum Bush Tool first, because that's the sort of knife I do need, and want!
 
pict said:
I haven't seen anyone say they were a hard use blade yet.
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I would consider them as rough use knives for utility in general, sod cutting and similar, not precision cutting tools, very low performance for food preperation compared to optomized knives. Some more than others, I like the 1/16" ones, but would prefer full grinds. They are good for general wood work, as you noted many ot one over the CU/7 and similar for carving, but for general cutting I would prefer a different grind.

Elen said:
If you're willing to pay more than 10 euros or bucks, there are loads of knives far, far superior on the market.
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Examples?

-Cliff
 
longbow50 said:
Hey Donald S., thanks for posting your feelings. What is your knife of choice these days. Fill us in.....

They aren't for everybody, that's for sure, but I've been using the same Eriksson Mora 2000 for over a couple of years now and I've put it through some get down and get dirty chores. Left it out in the rain for several weeks after gutting a deer with it. Found it right where I had left it, cleaned it up and not a blemish on the blade. It's cut saplings up to 1 1/2" thick, 60 in fact over a two day period, then delimbed and stripped the bark from them. Stroped the blade every once in awhile and sharpened it when I got it home each day. Did a great job for me and now that I've got the new kydex pants for it, I might even stop hiding it in my pack. :D
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Hi longbow50, my choice at this time is, the SOG recondo-42X made with the BG-42 stainless steel blade. It's a good camping and backpacking knife, its not so good for fire wood cutting, but i have a small folding saw and some times a hand axe. As knives go, i like a lot of brands. Names like SOG, Cold Steel, Gerber, Case, Buck, Kershaw, Victorinox, Hand made Damascus blades, Hen & Rooster knives, Puma, Marble's knives in Demascus steel and CRK knives. I also have about 8 other brands, some are good some are not so great, but i am open minded to any new and good ideas on knives and tools. Your friend at the post, Donald S.
 
thesupersurvivalpost said:
Hi longbow50, my choice at this time is, the SOG recondo-42X made with the BG-42 stainless steel blade. It's a good camping and backpacking knife, its not so good for fire wood cutting, but i have a small folding saw and some times a hand axe. As knives go, i like a lot of brands. Names like SOG, Cold Steel, Gerber, Case, Buck, Kershaw, Victorinox, Hand made Damascus blades, Hen & Rooster knives, Puma, Marble's knives in Demascus steel and CRK knives. I also have about 8 other brands, some are good some are not so great, but i am open minded to any new and good ideas on knives and tools. Your friend at the post, Donald S.
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Hey, I sent one of the Recondo X-42s to a good friend for his son in Afghanistan. This was many years ago and his dad told me that he traded it for a Becker C/U 7 and was a lot happier with the knife. But as it usually goes, the guy that got the X-42 liked it better than the Becker. :D
 
Cliff Stamp said:
I would consider them as rough use knives for utility in general, sod cutting and similar, not precision cutting tools, very low performance for food preperation compared to optomized knives. Some more than others, I like the 1/16" ones, but would prefer full grinds. They are good for general wood work, as you noted many ot one over the CU/7 and similar for carving, but for general cutting I would prefer a different grind.


Examples?

-Cliff
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That was a rather weird post. Looking at a Mora, it should be pretty obvious to anyone except a blind man that they're not meant for food preparation. The basic Moras are for woodworking and general utility. They don't perform well as machetes, either, but that should be pretty obvious looking at the grind and blade length. :p

As for the examples, one should hope you wouldn't need anyone to point them out to you. But if you really insist on being obtuse, how about a decent Tommipuukko? The day you can show me a Mora does something better than a good Tommi, I'll eat my hat, and yours. (Edit: And I'm assuming we're talking the basic utility Moras here, not electrician's knives and such)
 
I have found that my Moras excell at trimming meat. I also use my Mora 2000 all the time in the kitchen and it works very nicely. I once trimmed and sliced enough meat for about 180 people with just a Mora. I have a whole set of photos from butchering a large hog with a red handled Mora. They don't work well for chopping stuff against a cutting board, but they do handle alot of food prep tasks well.

The Mora's are not machete's but they can take down saplings easily with the right technique. Mac
 
Pitdogs son here,

My first fixed blade knife was a Ka-Bar and my second is a mora, i got it for my birthday and i also got a survival kit with it which my dad prepared for me. You've probally seen my mora in some of my dads pics and i think its a really good knife to say its only about $20, the sheath isn't that good, i want to buy a new one when i have enough money but for a starting knife just to take camping and everything you can't go wrong. I'd rather have my mora than a busse, anyway thats just me.
 
Hey Guys...

Young Master Pitdog...


pitdog said:
Pitdogs son here, the sheath isn't that good, /QUOTE]

Which Mora is it that you have ?

As for the sheath, no worry little brother, I'll hook you up with a nice sheath for your Mora. You just have your dad email me. and we'll get the details sorted out for your new custom sheath, my compliments. You want a Firesteel holder on that, just let me know.

ttyle

Eric
O/ST
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