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3wolves

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Hi guys,
I don't know if I should be posting this here or in gadgets & gear but here goes. I want a CO2 handgun for plinking and maybe killing rodents once in a while (they keep showing up just after you think they're all gone). I'm thinking of this one, it has just under the highest velocity allowed in Canada (500 fps), is inexpensive and got some pretty good reviews on a retail website too.

http://www.businessvision.net/edge/Main.asp?D=%7B1EA3F84F%2D43B0%2D4F4F%2D8DD9%2DED64BD9DC548%7D&PageType=Product&SKU=225%2D3003&CategoryID=29

Does anyone have any experience with CO2 guns? I have a break barrel Diana rifle that's a good 30 years old and still works just fine but I want something a little more high tech that I don't have to load after every shot.
 
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I have a gamo pt80 and it has served me well. It shoots .177 pellets in a rotary magazine. Fast changing for the mag. and co2. Great for small rodent and general plinking.


I'm not fond of the "blowback style" style, especially w/ bb's as ammo.
 
Crosman 357 w

http://www.pyramydair.com/p/crosman-357-air-gun-revolver.shtml

The grips are plastic and suck but everything else is good. For 50.00 your get a hard hitting pistol under 500 fps. 10 round clips. About 50 good shots and sometimes 10 or even 20 more with good CO2 management. Double and single action. Fairly accurate.

If you want the Cadillac of CO2 pistols, try a Smith &Wesson 586

http://www.pyramydair.com/p/smith-wesson-586-co2-pellet-gun.shtml

I have never tried one but it is supposed to be very accurate and has Hogue grips.
 
I have a Colt clone, rotary mag, think made by the same company. Accuracy is bad to put it lightly. More like a shotgun group.

Also, I much prefer pumps. If you see a rodent, you can grab the pump and go. With CO2, you have to put it together (mine leaked out if loaded for long) and go.

Just my experience.
 
as far as pistols go I love my 2240, I have done all the internal mods you can do and a trigger job using folder pivots and that sucker is wicked.

I find those "real gun " type pistols to be toys not much you can do to make them better, and not very accurate. but with a few good googles and an hour with a dremel 2 bucks in springs you have a decent air pistol, and for a few bucks in aftermartket parts you can make a 22xx that rocks.

for straight out of the crate I would say look for a decent springer pistol, daisy makes a good one and so does diana,

cya
jimi
 
ohen cepel said:
With CO2, you have to put it together (mine leaked out if loaded for long) and go.
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Yeah... I had a Daisy (looks like a Colt Commander) and I blew the seals out of it by storing it with a CO2 cartridge in it. Now it's useless; dumb mistake on my part.

On a weekend trip I think it would be OK to leave a cartridge in.
 
Dont forget Sirmialorder (or Cabela's canada now) they have gamo, and some good other models.

I had a PT-80 back east that I would take pests with, rat's, mice, pidgens, squirells. It was a fantastic gun, powerful, light accurate.
I have had quite a few C02 airguns, many crosman models, a couple gamo, Desert Eagle:rolleyes::D

If anything, you best bet is going to be a Crosman 2240, stock has enough for rodents, I've shot rabbits with the one I had, again accurate, but some dont like it as its single shot, but they can be moded if you ever get into that.
 
CO2 guns have a peculiar characteristic where they exhibit less and less power in colder weather. This may be a particularly irritating problem for those in cold climes.
 
That's true, shecky. Plus the last several shots tend to sort of fall out of the barrel. You can hear the difference in pressure after a dozen shots or so (ymmv).

I wouldn't rely on a CO2 gun for survival, but for plinking like the OP wants they're good fun, within their limitations.

I do like my Gamo break-barrel rifle quite a bit; few moving parts, it seems to be built like a tank, it shoots where I point it, and I can pack hundreds of pellets in a very small package. To me, that's a survival pot-filler.
 
I have a couple of co2 pistols that I bought at a good price. They are fun for my grandson to shoot leaves in the pond etc to teach some marksmanship. I prefer my old crosman American Classic 1377 pump pistol. It is very consistent and with practice you can pump it up fairly quickly. I also have an old Sheridan pump rifle. All of these are in the 177 cal. I don't find the 22 cal guns as accurate for me. Maybe I need to spend more money. With the pump I won't run out of CO2 and it is cheaper to shoot. I can also shoot darts out of it at the dart board.
 
I had a Crossman CO2 target pistol years ago that I used to pop squirrels that nested in our attic. I bought it, myself but the old man would keep me supplied with BBs. It kept him from calling the exterminator! I had it for years, replaced the rubber seals a few times and the puncture point. The first 20 or 30 shots on a CO2 cartridge would damn near go clear through a squirrel within 15 yards. It would knock his ass off the utility lines at 30 yards. Once I beefed up to pellets no squirrel stood a chance.
 
I prefer spring piston airguns to CO2. You can get a lot of power and don't have to worry about buying CO2 or the variation in muzzle velocity as the CO2 cartridge becomes spent. I have two pistols, one a Beeman/Webley Tempest and a Beeman P1. The Tempest shoots a .177 pellet at around 440 FPS and the P1 shoots the same caliber at 600 FPS. I've had both for about 20 years with no issues. They shoot like new. I don't think the Tempest is imported by Beeman anymore, so you'll have to look for a used one or new old stock.
 
The crosman 2240 is ideal as a platform. I know you can rapidly get into FAC territory with mods, but it's VERY easy to get over 500 FPS with one, and in stock trim they will take out rats at reasonably close range.
 
just remember than any firearm mod must be removed within 30 days or you have to re-register it..... AFAIK
 
Personally, I prefer the Daisy Powerline products that can be found at wally world for about $30 usd. 480 FPS and 18 shot bb repeater at my local wally worlds. Hope that helps, J.

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ohen cepel said:
I have a Colt clone, rotary mag, think made by the same company. Accuracy is bad to put it lightly. More like a shotgun group.

Also, I much prefer pumps. If you see a rodent, you can grab the pump and go. With CO2, you have to put it together (mine leaked out if loaded for long) and go.

Just my experience.
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I bought a Colt Branded (actually Umarex) 1911A1 style C02 gun last year.
The accuracy with mine seems pretty decent. Fine for plinking. Maybe you got a dud?
You can shoot them single action as well which helps accuracy as the double action pull is a little long. Of course in SA mode you have to cock the hammer for each shot.
To the OP i'd agree with the others and recommend Crossman 2240.
Try to buy local if you can.
I bought mine mailorder and had to send it back because it was defective,the barrel was actually canted about 15-20 degrees to the right.
When holding the gun normally you would have to tilt your head to look down the sights!
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Sent it back, got a replacement which has had no problems.
 
I had a Crosman CO2 revolver similar to the one linked to in post#3, it has long been discontinued, but it was a great little pistol. IIRC it was around 450-500 fps, and pretty accurate. I took it up to Canada with some of my cousins and took 4 or 5 squirrels with it one afternoon. Took plenty of birds back around home, and the occasional mouse inside the house with it too. I generally prefer non-CO2 airguns/pistols for their durability and reliability (and no cartridges to run out of), but the quick 2nd (and 3rd and 4th) shot can be handy in a CO2 pistol.
 
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