Cold Steel Carbon V Video Destruction Test Completed

GREAT! I will be looking foward to seeing it. Thanks again,,VWB.
 
Jeff Clark said:
I don't think you could say that Carbon-V doesn't cut well. The issue is with the factory geometry of the SRK and the factory edge. I think this was a good test of the SRK durability. I was somewhat concerned that Carbon-V might be less tough than the basic carbon steels. It is good to see that it held up so well. My experience with Carbon-V is that it also took a pretty ordinary edge. I had hoped that it would be a little better than average.
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I agree. It isn't the steel it is the edge geometry that matters here. I had an SRK and it was sharp but the obtuse sabre grind made it hard to cut into stuff with. However, I had a Trailmaster that was wicked factory sharp and would cut through anything. Both were Carbon V.

Good test again Noss. I would have guessed that CS's 1050 steel would be much tougher than Carbon V. And it should have been.
 
What would be the expected performance of the AUS8 Blade vs the Carbon V in the same model. Will the Carbon V outperform the AUS by a large margin or is the performace similar? I know that carbon steel outperform SS but I understand that AUS8 is very tough.
 
dante said:
I know that carbon steel outperform SS
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That is a very broad statement and because of that untrue. There are many properties of steel and no one steel (or class of steel for that matter) will be best in all of them. All steels have unique traits that make it good or bad at certain applications. In the end pick a steel that has the traits you are looking for and give up trying to find the one that excels at them all. Some favor one trait and others make a compromise to be decent at many traits.
 
True, I should have been more specific, the question is AUS8 vs. CarbonV toughness-wise for example as Noss4 tests are geared towards it.
 
dante: I can't personally say how Aus8 compares against the carbon V as I haven't tested it yet.

I can say that many of the stainless steels I have tested have held their own against many of the carbon steels I have tested in regards to strength and toughness.

The buck Nighthawk 420hc and the Gerber LMFII 12C27 stainless were great performers. They both were very chip resistant and took minimal damage considering what they were put through.

Also the Strider BT S30V Stainless was very tough and resistant to damage as well. There is a lot of talk about it chipping easy but in regards to the Strider BT this was not the case. It remains one of my favorite concrete killers.
 
noss4 said:
archimedes: People have been after me to test the Sk-5 Trail Master the Bushman SK-5 is very thin but can take a beating. I would like to see how a big thick blade made of it will do. Thanks
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I am wanting to see you destroy an sk-5 trailmaster also because i don't think it will be any tougher than the thinner bushman for two reasons first since the blade is fully flat ground it should be easily damaged at the edge and two the bushman's rc is i think 54 while i suspect the trailmaster is probably in the 57 range as it is not designed for spear duty and it's main purpose is for cutting and chopping. I guess i will just have to wait and see.
 
sdt11670: One thing about the SK5 trail master is it will have much more lateral strength compared to the bushman's very thin and flexible blade if it does not break easy during flexing. I'm looking for the trail master to support a heavy load during testing. We will see.
 
Hey, Noss, if you want to try something slightly different, you could have a go with Ka-Bar's large TDI knife. It's AUS8, and although it's a police self-defense knife, it's not too brittle at all - might give some idea as to how AUS8 is, and at an easy price. The shape of the knife is also pretty different compared to what you've tested so far, so it might be pretty entertaining.
 
Elen: It would be different. they come in a few different blade shapes including a tanto. Yea it would be interesting. I would have to come up with a few different tests because of it's shape mainly.
 
My only comment, having just finished using a Carbon V SRK on its fourth deer this season, is the factory edge is starting to get just a hair duller and maybe I should give the edge a touchup stoning.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing the becker campanion being destroyed by Noss it's carbon v also but due to the design of this knife it would be tough to destroy... Heck i wouldn't be surprised if it beat all the rest he has tested.... how 'bout it Noss?
 
sdt11670: Becker's are no longer made at the moment. I don't know how hard a Companion is to get a hold of ?
 
noss4 said:
sdt11670: Becker's are no longer made at the moment. I don't know how hard a Companion is to get a hold of ?
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I only have one campanion and surely i couldn't live with seeing it destroyed! But i can tell you that it is a hefty little hunk of steel. Just behind the edge it measures 0.104 and thickens all the way to the spine and has a solid tang where the other beckers are hollowed out. The point is deadly sharp yet super thick and even though the blade is much thicker than most knives near the edge it will still shave your beard! It's almost as heavy as the combat bowie yet only about 10" ? overall. most of my bowies including the ones with much thicker spines measure between 0.066 to 0.084 behind the edge if i recall correctly. the campanion doesn't slice as well as most but it gets the job done and would probably prove unbreakable in a survival situation. It makes a fine mini hatchet!
 
I have a campanion too, although I wish it had a hollowed tang. I can see the point of an unhollowed tang on a large knife to help center the balance, but on such a short knife it adds unnecassary weight.
 
Confederate said:
But...but...[cough]...[sputter]...this isn't what I was led to believe by Lynn Thompson's
video! Why, I came away with the distinct impression that Carbon V was the carbon
steel to have, and that it was as far above regular carbon steel as, well, Carbon V would
be to Carbon I!

He said if I used an SRK that I would think I was using a...a...chainsaw! That it was a
real cutting dynamo!

Did he...lie? Are you sure you didn't miss something? Are you sure it wasn't a cheap
Chinese copy you tested?

Oh, well, I'm sure I'll get over it. Somehow.
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Maybe Lynn should instead spend advertising dollars to convince you that CarbonV is equal or inferior to other carbon steels....?

When you took possession of your SRK did you really think that it would perform on par with a chainsaw or did you understand that this was a sales euphemism and standard marketing practice.
I doubt that when a car or motorcycle manufacturer claims that their product rides or drives like "a rocket", that you actually think it's going to have performance similar to a Saturn V booster, so what's the point of your sarcasm? Obviously the CarbonV perormed fairly well overall through Noss4's testing.
 
Actually having finally viewed (it is a real pain on dial up) the complete test as well as the Kabar MK2 test I think that in terms of normal use both knives performed very well for the money. Both knives showed they were capable of peeling an apple or opening a car door like it was a can of tuna. While, in normal use, I have done the first, but not the second, it is nice to know they can. The tests prove neither one is intended for use as a chining bar. I knew that anyway. The tests show originality as I truly doubt I would have even thought of using the 6" blade of the SRK for chopping through a 4x4. Whittling a branch into a tent peg would have been about the limit of my field ingenuity. Silly me would have used the hatchet for a task calling for a hatchet. :)
 
noss4 said:
Dubb: I usually don't sharpen them if I get them new in the box. I agree that this is not totally fair for a cutting test. The reason I don't sharpen them is I don't want to touch them or alter them or damage them in anyway because I am going to torture test them. This issue came up on the A1. Cliff Stamp stated the edge could have chipped easier on the A1 because damage may have occurred during sharpening. If it was an all out cutting test then yes I would sharpen them. The SRK seemed to have a decent factory edge on it and did not seem dull.
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it may have seemed decnt, but if you have trouble, do us all a favor, and shave with it to make sure it is out of the box sharp. i have a CS master hunter plus ( laminated steel like the A1 but price like the SRK) and when i got it out of the box, it wasnt sharp! i reached into my nylon sheath, pulled out my DMT extra fine grit and got it to break the skin on contact. but...an edge that thin isnt good for torture testing, youre right...
 
Patriot222 said:
Maybe Lynn should instead spend advertising dollars to convince you that CarbonV is equal or inferior to other carbon steels....?

When you took possession of your SRK did you really think that it would perform on par with a chainsaw or did you understand that this was a sales euphemism and standard marketing practice.
I doubt that when a car or motorcycle manufacturer claims that their product rides or drives like "a rocket", that you actually think it's going to have performance similar to a Saturn V booster, so what's the point of your sarcasm? Obviously the CarbonV perormed fairly well overall through Noss4's testing.
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hahaha yeah my Carbon V laredo bowie had a fishook sharp point with no exaggeration and although it was easy to put back on, the very tip broke when i stabbed a mint can, something york. it was steel though, not like tin or something. i will admit, ive felt lied to about the carbon V steel. it may be american made, but thats all i like about it. i was traumatized my my first one breaking ( at the time i called it a defect) but even today, i dont feel comfortable chopping. it may be "full" tang, but a rat tail is a STUPID idea on a knife that big! but you can slice through paper, cardboard, and and plastic container easy. like a milk jug...fill it with water, and pretty much pull the knife up as it drops out of your hand and you can water the lawn :)
 
Just went to your site and watched for about an hour. Thanks for your fine work..I enjoyed the testing very much. BTW, your test on the Becker was of interest since own a 7" model. Wish you had made more comments during the test, I find your verbal discussions and evaluations very helpful.

Keep up the good work!

museummuscle
 
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