Cold Steel Recon1 vs Zero tolerance????(any model) Which one is tougher knife?????

[boki_zca]

I know most pple hate cold steel, but which one would take more abuse of the 2?????

 

[monkeyman666]

ZT. Period.

 

[seelow123]

There's a search function for a reason people.

 

[monkeyman666]

There's a search function for a reason people.

He was just asking a question....

 

[seelow123]

He was just asking a question....

A question that has been asked numerous times and almost always ends up in a flame war.

 

[waykno]

Zero is certainly priced higher but I like CS. Look at their Recon 1 and for around 65 hogs, you can git'cha one.

 

[Ankerson]

I know most pple hate cold steel, but which one would take more abuse of the 2?????

The answer is that depends on the abuse as both are very strong knives.

The Tri-Ad lock on the Recon 1 is much stronger than the frame lock while most of the ZT blades are thicker and beefier than the Recon 1's blade due to it being hollow ground (They cut extremely well).

 

[Jesse B.]

There's a search function for a reason people.

He was just asking a question....

A question that has been asked numerous times and almost always ends up in a flame war.

Perhaps it would be best if we endeavored to reverse that trend instead of perpetuating it.

 

[singularity35]

Here you go...

for the record, I have never tested a frame lock that held over 235 lbs (4" from the pivot) and these were top of the line heavy duty folders. this may sound good but it not. the knife was 8+ oz. I'd have to look at the video but as I recall the knife would have been unusable after 100-150 lbs. While in contrast ,last week, I tested a Cold Steel "hold out" (4 inch skean dhu) and it went to 300 lbs at 4" from pivot and weighed 4oz. Realize that the strength to weight ratio is different in a folder with thick,thin, wide and narrow blades but you get the idea.

The answer is that depends on the abuse as both are very strong knives.

The Tri-Ad lock on the Recon 1 is much stronger than the frame lock while most of the ZT blades are thicker and beefier than the Recon 1's blade due to it being hollow ground (They cut extremely well).

 

[Heiheit]

The answer is that depends on the abuse as both are very strong knives.

The Tri-Ad lock on the Recon 1 is much stronger than the frame lock while most of the ZT blades are thicker and beefier than the Recon 1's blade due to it being hollow ground (They cut extremely well).

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[bladeboss]

OH NO YOU DIDNT.
I JUST got done with a big war when i asked this question.
Like literally, JUST did.
Look at that one, and you will see the explosion.

 

[jakeyjake4528]

I know most pple hate cold steel, but which one would take more abuse of the 2?????

Why are you restricting cold steel to one model?

Granted, the tri ad lock makes the recon one plenty strong enough, but I'd go with the Spartan if you want just one model to "take on" ZT in terms of toughness.

I've got the Spartan and a 301. I'm very confident it'd take some pretty unnatural strength and situations to render either knife useless through typical use. And I'd put my money on the tri ad lock to beat the framelock.

 

[bladebertt]

Why are we even having these kind of threads? If you are wanting a knife to take a lot of abuse like prying or beating on the spine, why not just get a fixed blade or a hatchet? If you are wanting a folder, ZT or CS will both do the job.

 

[CWL]

Why are you restricting cold steel to one model?

Because that's the knife he has and he needs the support of people on the internet that he made the right decision.

 

[djjonny]

to OP. Look.... CS knives are generally very good for what you pay (there are exeptions like the Espadas) but there's no chance in hell they'll ever compete with a ZT.

Please don't be lame and take their videos and slogan (Strongest sharpest knives) literally.
Fact is, any medium grade steel knife with a strong lock will go through a car door.

Some guys in these forums took and S30v Knife through a car hood a few times, low and behold the knives got dull. You really think an Aus 8a folding knife CS comes up with will do better?
If any of you tested and proven otherwise I'll accept your opinion but for my use my ZT always proved stronger on the whole

I have a few CS knives and EDC one, so not being biased against them. I chose them because they suited me for EDC and SD based on their design, the knife jobs I do and how I fight.
Not because of all their corny videos.
I quite frankly I think their entire marketing is a load of $h!t

Stated this before, When it comes to strength the CS Tri-Ad lock is more solid than the ZT's liner lock IMO, but the ZT win's in every other dep.
So over all ZT

 

[Jason B.]

I have a 0551, LH millie, and AK-47 w/ tri-ad lock in my rotation of carry knives. Each is a solid performer but each has something the other does not.

I'm bias to the ZT because the 0551 to me is "the" knife. It's a design that works well as a utility knife, the blade shape and grind, handle design and overall size all naturally flow when put to use. The millie... A cutting machine, nuff said. The cold steel is simply a steal in terms of value and performance. Solid ergonomics with one of if not the strongest lock in the business and though they may not use the best blade steels they heat treat it well and give it a good grind.

If you want better edge retention, materials and IMO design then I would look to ZT.

If you want a knife where lock strength is key and you don't mind trading off some cutting performance then buy a cold steel.

Better yet buy both, you will be happy you did.

 

[twid]

Prying, stabbing, torquing the blade - ZT. Thicker pivot, thicker blades, stronger tip, full liners or Ti slabs. Spine smacking or any other abuse that would deform or defeat a frame lock - CS Tri-Ad.
I have experience with both so I'm not talking out of my ass. I've defeated a ZT frame lock, actually several frame locks from well known makers. You have to hold them in a way that your hand is not securing the lock bar but none the less it slips. Does not break but fails. Tri-Ad wont. On the other hand I've broken 2 CS blades from abuse that my 301 pisses on.
IMO the Triad lock is the only thing CS has going for them in their hard use folders. ZT has a beefier over all build, though a lot heavier.
I like them both.

 

[singularity35]

Prying, stabbing, torquing the blade - ZT. Thicker pivot, thicker blades, stronger tip, full liners or Ti slabs. Spine smacking or any other abuse that would deform or defeat a frame lock - CS Tri-Ad.
I have experience with both so I'm not talking out of my ass. I've defeated a ZT frame lock, actually several frame locks from well known makers. You have to hold them in a way that your hand is not securing the lock bar but none the less it slips. Does not break but fails. Tri-Ad wont. On the other hand I've broken 2 CS blades from abuse that my 301 pisses on.
IMO the Triad lock is the only thing CS has going for them in their hard use folders. ZT has a beefier over all build, though a lot heavier.
I like them both.

Maybe you should give the spartan a try.

 

[boki_zca]

I own a Recon 1 and was just wondering how it would hold up compared to Zero Tolerance knives......one day I might get Zero Tolerance....One thing I like about aus 8 on recon is its really easy to het sharp in field with ceramic stick...and is pretty tough!

 

[thedukeoftank]

CS knives will win because of the strength of the lock. But really, it wins on the merits of the lock and lock type alone.

Put a stop pin lock back in a ZT = ZT wins
Put a liner lock in a CS = ZT wins
Put a frame lock in a CS = ZT wins