Cold steel to use s35vn more and XHP less

[nephron]

Weird, just saw another new model from Spyderco using CTS XHP, they don't seem to have any problem getting it.

 

[DocJD]

Spyderco has different supply issues than CS . CS has relatively few models some of which can have high demand at times . They are also more value based than most other brands . Not as much margin to pay more for steel .

 

[nephron]

Spyderco has different supply issues than CS . CS has relatively few models some of which can have high demand at times . They are also more value based than most other brands . Not as much margin to pay more for steel .

Yea that is one thing I don't know is their production/sales rates between the two.

 

[whp]

Spyderco has different supply issues than CS . CS has relatively few models some of which can have high demand at times . They are also more value based than most other brands . Not as much margin to pay more for steel .

If part of the reason for the change from xhp to s35v is steel cost, I would prefer to pay 5-10 dollars more for a model with the xhp.

 

[DocJD]

If part of the reason for the change from xhp to s35v is steel cost, I would prefer to pay 5-10 dollars more for a model with the xhp.

This ^^^ ! But I don't think this is the prime issue , unfortunately . But I have noticed that other brands using XHP are usually much pricier . I've seen CS retreat on steel quality in favor of lowering prices before .

 

[eugenechia1989]

It does seem that other companies regard CTS-XHP as a special steel and they charge a premium for the few knives they make from it. Does any other company use it extensively as a default high-end steel, by the way? In case Cold Steel really ditches CTS-XHP for good and I have to look elsewhere...

 

[Gress]

Honestly do not understand what is a cry out all about..
I do not know what CS s35vn will look like, but from my many other knife experiences (CR, Hinderer, Spyderco etc.) s35vn is equally good if not better.
And as much as I appreciated the F22shift's vid, it is anecdotal. IMO the result was defined by blade geometry more than the steel.

 

[MikeyConti]

Honestly do not understand what is a cry out all about..
I do not know what CS s35vn will look like, but from my many other knife experiences (CR, Hinderer, Spyderco etc.) s35vn is equally good if not better.
And as much as I appreciated the F22shift's vid, it is anecdotal. IMO the result was defined by blade geometry more than the steel.

Agree
Also comes down to what you use your knife for pretty much as well. I would like CS to stay with CTS-XHP in some of their folders but S35VN is good too. CS has changed their steels many times, doesn’t mean certain models are not as “Good” anymore.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

CS should have moved to CTS-204P. Same edge retention, and more stainless. Note the chart below:

DIAGRAM OF: Carpenter CTS Alloys
Selectaloy Diagram

Y Axis = Corrosion Resistance
X Axis = Edge Retention

Y:
Y: CTS-TMT
Y:
Y: CTS-20 CTS-BD1 CTS-B70 CTS-204P
Y:
Y: CTS-10 CTS-B90 CTS-B75 ---------
Y:
Y: CTS-40A CTS-40C CTS-40CP CTS-XHP
Y:
.......................................................................... >> CTS-Maxamet
X Axis X Axis X Axis X Axis X Axis X Axis X Axis