Cold Steel's Kabar Clone

EarlFH said:
Quit pissing, and moaning about it, and get a life. If you don't like it, don't buy it. I'd rather have a Cold Steel knife, than ......
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Yes I understand, I usually come to the "Ka-Bar forum" to tout how much I love Cold Steel too.
 
I'm liking full flat grind and wider tang. CS addressed the only 2 complaints i had about the Mark 2

I would still rather have its 1095 CV though. And be stamped "Kabar"
 
Jac The Slayer said:
I'm liking full flat grind and wider tang. CS addressed the only 2 complaints i had about the Mark 2

I would still rather have its 1095 CV though. And be stamped "Kabar"
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Jac, a few of us have mentioned the same thing in the Ask Toooj thread. Check it out!
 
Kommando Kodiak said:
Ontario knife company makes one, just another CS hater looking for an excuse to hate
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Welcome to the Kabar Forum and Bladeforums. Glad you made it in here.

Sometimes folks have strong opinions about things they love. Knives are one of them. I have some knives I don't like, but I don't consider myself a hater. Just have some opinions is all.

Once again, welcome, and stick around, always glad to see a new face.


Moose
 
Moose, are there any pictures anywhere of your whole collection? I'd love to see how many blades you have and love :)
 
The human race would still be sitting around the cave looking for bugs to eat if we didn't learn from good ideas and, basically, copy at every opportunity. The government artificially restricts certain kinds of copying to award and promote innovation, which makes some sense. Outside of those legal protections, it's "deuces wild". Copied designs don't deserve points for originality and, as many have pointed out, you're free to buy or not, but what matters to most of us is not whether something was copied--which is natural and common--but whether something was copied well. I think the whole "It was copied!" argument is just a lame excuse to criticize that which challenges one's precious little notions.
 
crimsonfalcon07 said:
Moose, are there any pictures anywhere of your whole collection? I'd love to see how many blades you have and love :)
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No, there are not. That is one thing that I keep private. My collection is, um, er, well, mine. There are only a few people that are privvy to my knife cabinet. My wife, one of my oldest friends, and my kids. I did let my FIL choose a pairing of blades once, from the many shelves within. He chose a JAB Potbelly, and a JAB Piggyback folder.


BillWolfel said:
The human race would still be sitting around the cave looking for bugs to eat if we didn't learn from good ideas and, basically, copy at every opportunity. The government artificially restricts certain kinds of copying to award and promote innovation, which makes some sense. Outside of those legal protections, it's "deuces wild". Copied designs don't deserve points for originality and, as many have pointed out, you're free to buy or not, but what matters to most of us is not whether something was copied--which is natural and common--but whether something was copied well. I think the whole "It was copied!" argument is just a lame excuse to criticize that which challenges one's precious little notions.
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That is one of the best posts I have ever read. Very well done, my friend. Please stick around, I would enjoy reading more.

Moose
 
Just saw this thread now. While we're on the subject of "inspiration of designs", I saw this Extrema Ratio model sometime back. Don't know if it is an improvement (performance in actual use is is still best), but that HANDLE somehow just doesn't cut it for me. . .

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Yes CS marketing can be annoying at times but they still make some good products. And to be honest of late the marketing is not bothering me as much as it used to.
I own both Ka-bar and CS knives and if you include Hawks then i own 20+ CS products!
This Leatherneck is really just another mutation of a classic design.
To be honest i prefer a flat grind and i like the look of that wider tang! Would love to see it with a leather handle though.
I wonder if that wider tang will solve the butt cap breakage problem? I don't hammer with my Ka-bar pommels but i've seen pics of people who've managed to break the pommels (off Ka-bars and variants) via hammering.
 
NightMare Silverado said:
Really like nobody else ever used that knife style? It's like the most common "combat knife" design ever.
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This! I can't stand Cold Steel's marketing however, Its a basic knife design that nobody owns the patent to. It's kind of like saying that XYZ knife company made a chefs knife that looks just like Kershaw's. It comes a time when people realize that whoever designed a framing hammer 160 years ago, got it right.
 
There are so many reasons to dislike and never buy Cold Steel products, their "homages" to other's designs being a good one. I keep reading about haters, though I have read no hateful posts. Calling a company out on their shenanigans shouldn't count as hate, in my opinion.

shortwinger said:
But I wouldn't worry about the Leatherneck SF, the company stinks, the sheaths are crap, the tangs are weak, the handles probably won't last and that SK-5 will never make it as a reputable knife steel!
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Your attempt at sarcasm has fallen flat, as this statement is more true than you realize.
 
While CS's marketing tactics may be questionable, their knives seem solid to me. Granted I only have a Trail Master that I got yesterday so I haven't had a chance to test it out, but I have a friend who has their Laredo bowie, Gurkha khukri (both in SK-5) and an Oyabun tanto and I've had a chance to handle the Laredo and khuk a little and both are solid. I know my friend has put the khuk through some serious use with no probs.

As for the new Leatherneck, it looks nice and I like the flat grind and supposed wider tang but when it comes to the USMC style knife, I'll stick with Ka-Bar since it's a proven knife and it's US made.
 
Knives of the world are just that, knives from across the world.

I honestly believe there is nothing new under the sun, (except the Triad Lock), and alot of knives take off from other designs. Inspiration, so to speak.

I own several Cold Steels, and I have never had a problem with them, but all of mine are back when Cold Steel still manufactured here in the US.

My newer folders are Taiwan, but like others have stated, when it comes to my iconic American Fighting/Utility Knife, I'll takes me some Kabar. And alot of other blades as well.

I like USA Made, and Kabar is here, some of their knives are made in Taiwan, but about 80% of their line comes out of New York.

Yar, American Steel. :D

Moose
 
while we are comparing both brands...I put my Heavy Bowie next to my Trailmaster and, except for the coat on the HB, they could be grind twins from ricasso to tip except for the TM being a bit thicker/longer. Now, who made what first? ( not trying to stir the pot, I like both brands, just curious)
 
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