compound or recurve or long

TemplarKnight21c said:
Touche, my good man, touche. Several of those books are on my 'to buy' list. The bent Stick, though, I have only found on one website. Money is kind of tight right now, until I find a job, then i'm going to grab up as money as I can. Being able to make my own equipment would be very nice, but I know my skills at such are severely lacking. I can make some halfway decent slings, though, and I have successfully knocked a 4" chunk of plastic out of a lawn chair.
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If you get a chance, post some pictures of your slings. I also make slings and like to see other people's work. If you have problems learning to make arrows, I'd be glad to help. No expert by any stretch of the imagination, but my arrows come out ok.

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Another netting application for you, bubbacatfish.

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Doc
 
it is great to see some young folks on here that are into traditional archery..... :thumbup: my son is 9 and has been shooting since he was 5... he is a crack shot with his bow... he's always hot primitive bows, until recently, my father in law(who also loves knives and bows) and i both pitched in and got him a new black rhino longbow....:D this little bows shoots an arrow 10x faster than his little self bows.... i was amazed...

great looking stuff there doc...:thumbup: those look awesome...:D love the wrap on the fletches....:D and those quivers are awesome... :thumbup:

i make all of my own gear as well, with the exception of my bows... one of these days....:o
 
mtnfolk mike said:
it is great to see some young folks on here that are into traditional archery..... :thumbup: my son is 9 and has been shooting since he was 5... he is a crack shot with his bow... he's always hot primitive bows, until recently, my father in law(who also loves knives and bows) and i both pitched in and got him a new black rhino longbow....:D this little bows shoots an arrow 10x faster than his little self bows.... i was amazed...

great looking stuff there doc...:thumbup: those look awesome...:D love the wrap on the fletches....:D and those quivers are awesome... :thumbup:

i make all of my own gear as well, with the exception of my bows... one of these days....:o
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Thanks Mike, they're coming along. Your comments are especially appreciated since I don't like you (see other thread :D )

Doc
 
My slings are very (VERY) basic, just paracord and suede. This one I made freehand, and I had my first success with it. I'm still not very good, but practice makes perfect, as they say. The pouch is a little over 6" long by a little under 3" wide at the center. The pouch is starting to rip around the cords.
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I've also made my own armguard out of the same kind of suede; I'm thinking about boiling part of it or something, to offer better protection. You can see that and my other slings on my Photobucket: http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/TacoMania5000/ . I really like your stuff, DOC. Do you use cedar? Turkey feathers? How do you get the cock feather to twist like that? You're gonna regret telling me to ask questions. :D Edit: Is that an atlatl I see in the top picture, far left basket quiver?
 
TemplarKnight21c said:
My slings are very (VERY) basic, just paracord and suede. This one I made freehand, and I had my first success with it. I'm still not very good, but practice makes perfect, as they say. The pouch is a little over 6" long by a little under 3" wide at the center. The pouch is starting to rip around the cords I don't see a 'pouched' portion. Are the pouches flat? And if so, don't you have problems with the projectile coming out of the sling before you want it to? I generally make slings with netted pockets and it took me a little while to find out how to get it to 'pouch' the way I wanted. With leather, I soak the material,and tie a rock in it, to stretch and form the material.


I've also made my own armguard out of the same kind of suede; I'm thinking about boiling part of it or something, to offer better protection. What does boiling do? You can see that and my other slings on my Photobucket: I really like your stuff, DOC.Thank you TK - a work in progress Do you use cedar? The one quiver and berry gathering basket is from Eastern White Cedar (Thuja occidentalis) and yes - Wild Turkey feathersTurkey feathers? How do you get the cock feather to twist like that? Are you referring to the red fletched flu flu?You're gonna regret telling me to ask questions. :D We'll see :)

Edit: Is that an atlatl I see in the top picture, far left basket quiver? Good eyes, yes it is
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Discussion forums are meant for asking questions. That's how each and every one of us learn. I find there are a lot of knowledgable people on this forum, so I don't think you'll have any problems getting them answered. I will be glad to answer any I can.

Doc
 
So any hoo....popular concensus seems to say that recurve bows are preferred as the require less maintenance and compund bows are more accurate but require tuning, and more maintenance....sound about right?
 
That is so true about compounds. Seen a garage sale compound explode in a friends face. Cut him pretty good. They need a lot more maintenance. Make your own board bow. Just do a web search for board bow. Easy and very rewarding. Good luck.
 
It doesn't matter what type of bow you choose, it's just a bent stick to shoot a really straight one. Make sure you have the right arrows for your bow and learn to be as good as you can with what you've got.:thumbup: :cool:
 
Well, truthfully, I've never used a longbow, so I can't offer any advice there.

But between a recurve and a compound bow, I definitely prefer the recurve.

The compound bow somehow loses the spirit of archery, not to mention the simplicity and beauty of the traditional bow.
 
mtnfolk mike said:
it is great to see some young folks on here that are into traditional archery..... :thumbup: my son is 9 and has been shooting since he was 5... he is a crack shot with his bow... he's always hot primitive bows, until recently, my father in law(who also loves knives and bows) and i both pitched in and got him a new black rhino longbow....:D this little bows shoots an arrow 10x faster than his little self bows.... i was amazed...

great looking stuff there doc...:thumbup: those look awesome...:D love the wrap on the fletches....:D and those quivers are awesome... :thumbup:

i make all of my own gear as well, with the exception of my bows... one of these days....:o
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Hope I can piggyback on this thread: My five year old daughter has expressed an interest in learning to shoot a bow. What did you start your son on? Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Doc, your gear is awesome. Useful and inspiring. Those are skills I'd love to master.
 
RescueRiley said:
looking to possibly pick up a bow...it'll mostly be used for target shooting, and small game hunting...and to pack along with the rest of my gear for fun in the woods...I used to have take down recurve...but I gave it to my nephew when I moved...I have some of the basics down, but am still a bit of a neophyte...in regards to this (for what it's worth i prefer to shoot without a sight) any suggestions (ability is also a factor)
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takedown recurve all the way. :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
I'm not going to get into the stick and string vs wheels debate. However, I shoot only traditional gear and I find it amusing how longtime compounders get the bug when they switch to trad gear. I have one friend who started with compounds (shot really well) and when he switched to trad bought 5 new bows and never brings his wheel bow to the range. I found many similar stories with others. Go figure...
 
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This Little Penobscott (spelling ?) shoots a 600 grain arrow at 160 fps. It's only 43 pounds draw at 28". Performance.
In perspective 147 fps is 100 miles per hour.
I have an other Little primitive flat bow of 60 pounds draw that shoots 200 fps. not much in nature moves that fast. When I go to an archery range I take my chronograph and let the wheel bow shooters find out that there missile launchers are usually 50 fps or more less than advertised.
 
Comparing composites to recurves to longbows is fairly pointless.

The longbow was one of the greatest advancements in ancient warfare due to its phenomenal range.
For hunting a composite is a great choice for big game, lots of punch and you can hold it back and wait for the perfect shot without needing huge arms.

Recurves are my favorite just because I only target shoot and hunt small game so a takedown is perfect for me.

I personally prefer traditional bows mostly due to aesthetic reasons. If your just target shooting and hunting small game a composite with a 60# draw is overkill, and a longbow is well, long. Each has its place.
 
ilbruche said:
Comparing composites to recurves to longbows is fairly pointless.

The longbow was one of the greatest advancements in ancient warfare due to its phenomenal range.
For hunting a composite is a great choice for big game, lots of punch and you can hold it back and wait for the perfect shot without needing huge arms.

Recurves are my favorite just because I only target shoot and hunt small game so a takedown is perfect for me.

I personally prefer traditional bows mostly due to aesthetic reasons. If your just target shooting and hunting small game a composite with a 60# draw is overkill, and a longbow is well, long. Each has its place.
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ilbruche,

Well said, but I think you meant "compound," not "composite," which so far, has escaped consideration in this thread. ;)

-- FLIX
 
what draw weight would you reccommend?? like I said I intend hunt mostly small game, (after alot of practice) but in the future might consider hunting deer...I was thinking the #40-#50 range with #45 probably being ideal for most general purposes, any thoughts?
 
RescueRiley said:
what draw weight would you reccommend?? like I said I mostly hunt small game, but in the future might hunt deer...I was thinking the #40-#50 range
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rr-- for small game and deer, you should be fine with a #45-#50 bow.....

keep us posted on what you end up getting.... if you have any other questions feel free to ask.... i make all of my own gear/tackle, with the exception of my bows:rolleyes: one of these days....

remember: STAY CALM- PICK A SPOT..:thumbup:

mike
 
The pouches are flat, yeah. But they take the form of the projectile after a few minutes of use. But yes, I do tend to have the problem with them falling out. Boiling make leather harder, but also more brittle. Not sure what to do. Withe the feathers, I meant the bottom photo, with the striped feathers.
 
XMP said:
Hope I can piggyback on this thread: My five year old daughter has expressed an interest in learning to shoot a bow. What did you start your son on? Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Doc, your gear is awesome. Useful and inspiring. Those are skills I'd love to master.
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XMP, a real cheap, easy, effective starter bow for kids is 3/4" PVC pipe bow about four feet long. Make arrows out of 1/4" dowels.

Google "The Footed Shaft" it's in Rochester,MN but Lamont will ship things like knocks and points for 1/4" arrows or whatever else you need for traditional archery.:thumbup:
 
TemplarKnight21c said:
The pouches are flat, yeah. But they take the form of the projectile after a few minutes of use. But yes, I do tend to have the problem with them falling out. Boiling make leather harder, but also more brittle. Not sure what to do. Withe the feathers, I meant the bottom photo, with the striped feathers.
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As far as shaping your pouches go, in Ron Hood's video he wets the leather, then wraps it around a stone and ties it in that shape to let it dry.

For feathers , this is my method. I'm sure there are a lot better ones, but it works for me.

Something else that may be of interest to you.

Doc
 
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