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Compression Lock Likes and not so likes
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I hear what you are saying and agree, that in appropriate use it should be just fine.I do...
I guess that's why spine whacks and weight tests don't mean anything to me.
I'm never going to be using any of my knives in an inappropriate manner to cause such failure.
However, the paramilitary is marketed to a degree as something police/soldiers/self defenders can carry, and there's no predicting what can happen in one of those scenarios (Any manner of unplanned hard surface contacts). As if having a knife close on your hand isn't bad enough, now imagine having it close on your hand when you're trying to defend and possibly save your life with it.
It comes down to personal choice, I don't trust compression locks (among others) and I won't carry them, but if they have served you well, then carry on.
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How much force was applied in the cold steel test... would it replicate a real life force put on a blade in a real life situation?
I don't know the answer , but I don't think some one trained in self defense wouldn't have a problem with the compression lock (look up Michael Janich and his yojimbo 2 with a compression lock)
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Army Staff Sgt. David G. Bellavia the first living Iraq war veteran to be awarded the Medal of Honor. All he had was a Gerber liner lock knife.
I was covering his mouth, telling him to shut up. His breath was horrible, just stale, nasty breath. The moral of the story is that the dude bites my left hand near the thumb knuckle through my glove. I open up my SAPI plate and hit him with the inside of my vest. He's screaming, there are people screaming downstairs and I have no composure at all. This is not a John Rambo moment. I'm really scared. I stand up and he digs into my leg with his fingers. I'm looking for my Rex Applegate Gerber knife: not a multi-tool, just a serious blade. I go to reach for it and he puts his teeth — I don't wear underwear and he bites me right in the genital region.I don't know if he thought I was going to give him mercy, but in the struggle my Velcro knife case slid off my belt and was now on the ground next to his head. I hear someone yell down from above me in a panic. The man underneath me yells back. The more I put pressure on his left arm the more he goes limp. I flick my blade to the side and it snaps to the ready. I had never stabbed anyone before so I went down on him with a stabbing motion. I lost the grip on the knife and it went right across the base of my right pinkie finger. As soon as I let it go, a hot wave hit me and it smelled like rust. I put one hand on his mouth and other under his chin and just started to push like I was giving him CPR. The stream only got powerful when I pushed down and it opened up. I fell over and was completely exhausted.
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I was covering his mouth, telling him to shut up. His breath was horrible, just stale, nasty breath. The moral of the story is that the dude bites my left hand near the thumb knuckle through my glove. I open up my SAPI plate and hit him with the inside of my vest. He's screaming, there are people screaming downstairs and I have no composure at all. This is not a John Rambo moment. I'm really scared. I stand up and he digs into my leg with his fingers. I'm looking for my Rex Applegate Gerber knife: not a multi-tool, just a serious blade. I go to reach for it and he puts his teeth — I don't wear underwear and he bites me right in the genital region.I don't know if he thought I was going to give him mercy, but in the struggle my Velcro knife case slid off my belt and was now on the ground next to his head. I hear someone yell down from above me in a panic. The man underneath me yells back. The more I put pressure on his left arm the more he goes limp. I flick my blade to the side and it snaps to the ready. I had never stabbed anyone before so I went down on him with a stabbing motion. I lost the grip on the knife and it went right across the base of my right pinkie finger. As soon as I let it go, a hot wave hit me and it smelled like rust. I put one hand on his mouth and other under his chin and just started to push like I was giving him CPR. The stream only got powerful when I pushed down and it opened up. I fell over and was completely exhausted.
https://taskandpurpose.com/david-be...-76784887&mc_cid=8fb4d165e4&mc_eid=4e405c4ec9
I’m going kind of OT, but several years ago I watched a televised trial of a man who had used a Spyderco Military (the one shown in evidence looked like a DLC combo-edge version) to defend himself from an unprovoked attack by a gang member while the thug’s friends were cheering him on. The gang member was killed.
I saw a news story about a woman who experienced a home invasion. Her attacker had tried to rape her. She stabbed the attacker in self-defense. He died. The knife she used? It was a cheap imported Gerber liner lock with a blade slightly over 3”.
Of course, those were both liner locks, and the people who used them were effective with them, and they held up fine in those real-life situations. I’m betting a PM 2 with its compression lock would have also held up fine. Yet I’m pretty sure none of the knives I mentioned would have survived a “Cold Steel destruction test.” Any knife locking mechanism can be tested to destruction.
Jim
I saw a news story about a woman who experienced a home invasion. Her attacker had tried to rape her. She stabbed the attacker in self-defense. He died. The knife she used? It was a cheap imported Gerber liner lock with a blade slightly over 3”.
Of course, those were both liner locks, and the people who used them were effective with them, and they held up fine in those real-life situations. I’m betting a PM 2 with its compression lock would have also held up fine. Yet I’m pretty sure none of the knives I mentioned would have survived a “Cold Steel destruction test.” Any knife locking mechanism can be tested to destruction.
Jim
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