Concealed Carry Fixed Blade for defense

I carry my RAT-3 in D2 mostly for utility but it also serves as a backup to my sidearm. I think it is pretty well established around here that a fixed blade is superior to a same size folder in all ways except concealment. The RAT-3 comes with an excellent and highly flexible sheath system. I think I got mine for like 80 bucks. If you want to spend a little bit more you could get a Blackhawk Kalista it has like 70 different carry options or something like that. I dont carry mine because I prefer the handle and the blade material of the RAT-3.
 
a month ago I would have said a halo would be good just becasue it's soooo concealable, but after a piece of pocket lint caused a misfire, I wouldn't go that route at all. I prolly wouldn't go auto at all. too much chance of failure.
 
Why do you need a knife as a back-up weapon?
If someone is close enough to grab your gun, or it is taken away from you in a fight wouldn't some unarmed fighting training be more useful? I could see carrying a knife for a tool, but not a weapon when you have a handgun already. If you really want a backup weapon, I say get another pistol.

PS Shouldn't this be in Prac Tac?
 
I hear you.

I live in a world where there are carjackings by the minute. I carry my duty weapon (G19) religiously, an endura in my strong hand front pocket. I practice weekly, .08 splits, doubles COM.

Yeah, it feels good but when it really happens, will I even be paying attention or will I be staring at some chick walking her poodle or giving some old lady directions?

You can never practice too much and you can never be sharper than a tack. Keep your wits about you and know and own your surroundings. And run like a MF if the time comes.

If that don't work, fight like a mug. Anger, rage, and violence can and will make you the victor... whether or not you survive is another story. If you've ever been a victim of a violent crime, you'll understand the rage I mean. It will keep you in the fight.

Whatever knife you have in your hand is the right one.

Sorry fpr the OT rant. Too many dead people this week.

Best

-coop

Howdy Coop,

The part where you say "violence can and will make you the victor" is spot-on. Blind the bad guys with sand if you have to but keep up the agressiveness and rage! It will save your neck.

I've got a Dark Ops folder; a full sized StratoFighter with a stilleto blade coming today. Haven't read too much good thoughts on the knife but man it is built heavy duty and I like it. The combo of a Glock and a StratoFighter might be a good one for defense.

Regards,
darkop
 
whos packing a rifle ? ;)

For a brief amount of time I carried a folder next to my spare mag on my offside until one day in competition , going for a reload I tried to stuff the Strider in the magwell ( and someone got it on tape too :o ).
Blade stays far away from spare magazine now :)


Can ya put it on youtube and provide a link?:)
 
Howdy Coop,

The part where you say "violence can and will make you the victor" is spot-on. Blind the bad guys with sand if you have to but keep up the agressiveness and rage! It will save your neck.

I've got a Dark Ops folder; a full sized StratoFighter with a stilleto blade coming today. Haven't read too much good thoughts on the knife but man it is built heavy duty and I like it. The combo of a Glock and a StratoFighter might be a good one for defense.

Regards,
darkop

darkop,

Hello and Welcome to the forum.

Once again, I must beg to differ here because this All Balls and No Brains approach will get you all seriously killed. The size of the knife is a factor, yes this is true, however it is much more important to impart superior skills with your weapon of choice through training. Lots and lots and lots of training. Train hard, read a lot, try different techniques. When you find the techniques that work for you and that you are confident with, then train harder and spar with partners often. In real life incidents it is the guys that fight smart that win. As I have said before, utilize opportunity, circumstance exploitation and keep a cool head in regard to situational awareness.

Remember 99% of scumbags, thieves and all around creeps are f'n cowards to their rotten core and will typically only pick on folks with what they perceive are overwhelming odds in their favor. Once you turn the situation around in your favor they will be running like the scared little bi!ches they truly are.
 
Spyder10,

Since when did carrying a knife mean you can't train for unarmed clinch fighting? And why can't both skills be used in tandem?

In fact, knife, empty gun, small impact and empty hands can all be used with a similar base of fighting knowledge. I would be more willing to bet that people who specifically carry a knife for SD are doing general all around fight training. Where as many gun owners just train in gun tactics.
 
Once again, I must beg to differ here because this All Balls and No Brains approach will get you all seriously killed.


That's a misinterpretation of what I believe is trying to be communicated. It's Overwhelming Force to Kill the Assailant, no holds barred. This cannot be accomplished by cutting up someone's extremities, it requires shutting down their thought control and eliminating the ability to continue their attack. Up close with a knife, repeated stabbing about the neck to stop blood flow to the brain, followed by the eyes to stop their visual acquistion. Kill or be killed.

All the fancy training in knife combatives is useless when someone is inside your reach. The 21 foot rule is useless when the attack will still persist after mortal injury for the 45-90 seconds the heart still pumps. Shutting down the brain is paramount - cut off the flow of blood.

Experiments conducted by sniper rifle manufacturers proved the concept on live animals at ranges up to one mile. Neck shots were the most debilitating, and showed a much higher percent shutdown of motor response, more quickly. The principal is the same with the knife. In the Book of Five Rings, Mushashi is challenged to fight an opponent on an off shore island. He rowed to the beach, stepped out of the boat, and immediately ran at combat speed and slew him.

It's been said in another forum that if someone wants to train for knife combatives they need to run five miles and get kicked in the gonads as the match starts. I don't practice this, but I can inferentially deduce that fine motor skills and years of training will be of little help at that point, whereas Overwhelming Force will offer the better course of action. What kind of knife you use is almost incidental.

Food for thought . . .
 
tirod3,

You have made so many sweeping generalizations here and then drawn your own conclusions based on mere opinion, that is your opinion, that I scarcely no where to start.

So rather than debate it with you, I will simply say in all sincerity: Good Luck in all your combat situations!
 
What I meant more specifically was take the offensive. One can not offend if he is doing his best to stop an attack. And yes rage, whether controlled or not is a real factor when one is victimized.

When I was 15 a kid put a gun in my gut and tried to rob me. I took that gun and beat him with it(I called the cops too :o ). I was angry and instantly I became the offender. Was it the smartest thing to do? I don't know. Could it have turned out different? Yes. Do I care? No.

I would go so far as to say that most if not all of the idiot punks that do the robberies and car jackings where I work couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Disarm them and they're yours, literally. Surprise, shock, and aggression will disarm them. They expect you to give it up.

Maybe I shouldn't be giving advice but we all die sometime. Know where you stand on certain matters and handle your business.

Not to mean be stupid either. 4 dirtbags all armed I'd say give up the keys and call your insurance company.

Best

-Coop
 
Both are tools, Both are weapons. Here are mine. TRS Baer, Combat Chute. Spare mag. for the Baer, the Combat Chute never runs dry! Both are mega dependable.
ChuteBaer-TRS1.jpg
Mike
 
Why do you need a knife as a back-up weapon?
If someone is close enough to grab your gun, or it is taken away from you in a fight wouldn't some unarmed fighting training be more useful? I could see carrying a knife for a tool, but not a weapon when you have a handgun already. If you really want a backup weapon, I say get another pistol.

PS Shouldn't this be in Prac Tac?

If someone grabs your weapon or weapon hand another "Clip" Magazine is useless.
If you ever needed to handcuff anyone while armed you would understand the need for weak side weapon.
The knife actually has many advantages over a second pistol as a retention weapon.
It has as much or more stopping power than any pistol.
It does take much more training but a trained man with a knife at contact distance is at an advantage over a pistol.
Basicly a pistol is a cordless drill that works at a distance.
Once the distance is gone it is at a disadvantage over a knife because of the limit of movement of the bullet coming out of the barrel.
A bullet only moves in a straight line.
A knife can cut 360 degrees.
The knife has great advantages when it come to weapon retention.
There is a leverage advantage against the man holding the pistol because you can grab the slide/barrel and jerk straight up breaking the wrist and finger of even the strongest and best trained man.
You can not grab a blade if you want to keep your fingers.
Against several opponents trying to disarm you a knife in a reverse grip is very hard to take away.
Once you've gained control of the direction of a pistols barrel it's easy to disarm.
If you know what you're doing you can disable the gun so even if the barrel gets pointed at you it won't fire,a weakness a knife doesn't have.

I'm not saying a knife is a better weapon,it's not.
Distance is a GREAT advantage.
Unfortunatly some jobs require you to deal with security risks at contact distance.
At this distance a knife can have an advantage over a pistol.

The brain is the weapon.
Everything else is a tool.
 
The brain is the weapon.
Everything else is a tool.
Amen!!!!!!!! all I was looking for was another tool. Maybe one could even get stuck in a situation where they were not able to get ammo and had allready exhausted all that was in the Bail Out Bag. (hurricane season is coming on) I just like to have options and do understand the need for training and seek it every available chance.
 
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