As much a I love to spread around my knife purchases to different companies. Spyderco, Benchmade, Cold Steel, ESEE, Bladetech, Case, Buck, let the list grow. I have to say that I have probable bought more kershaw knives than any other brand. I stick to USA made, but even then they have price points that are not matched by other brands quality and materials considered. Just got a CPM 154 Blur in the mail two days ago. I could be mistaken but I don't think you can get your hands on such high end steel for the price I payed by any other maker. just my two cents, but its my two cents and I'll spend how I want. P.S. I will say some of their pocket clips could use some help. Not the ZT, skyline models, but some of the others.
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I've not got into their folders yet but I do have an Antelope Hunter II I've been using a couple of years. The AUS8 blade takes a great edge easily and holds up well. It is my main deer skinner, fish cleaner and camp kitchen duty fixed blade.
I wasn't crazy about the rubber handle so I fixed that with some nice walnut.
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I wasn't crazy about the rubber handle so I fixed that with some nice walnut.
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NICE handle mod! Very nice character to that piece of walnut.
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I have a wide variety of knives (like most here) and yet my Leek and Shallot find their way into my pockets everyday. They actually replaced my old Spyderco Endura and Delica EDC combo.
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For the quantity of production, designs, steels, price varieties, custom makers designing for them, markets...anyone who doesn't put Kershaw in overall first place doesn't know enough about the industry AND business.
Rick Hinderer people. Seriously he can work with ANYONE he wants to.
Oh yeah. Last time I checked a Ti Bump was $180 on eBay and that is still a STEAL. It's has gorgeous anodization fit and function.
Rick Hinderer people. Seriously he can work with ANYONE he wants to.
Oh yeah. Last time I checked a Ti Bump was $180 on eBay and that is still a STEAL. It's has gorgeous anodization fit and function.
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lol why do you try to force feed Kershaw down everyone's throat. Your opinion isnt the law and everyone has their own preferences. IMHO I wouldnt put Kershaw first for the single fact that they arent as innovative as say Spyderco. Sure Kershaw has great variety in both price range and materials but Spyderco rivals that and has better quality in all their models from my own experience. Not only that but last time I checked Kershaw doesnt have a mule team project letting people buy and try out new steels. If Kershaw is really like what you say and is the best in all those categories then everybody else should be out of business by now... CLEARLY thats not the case.
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Sounded to me like he was stating his opinion, similar to which you just did.
Now who's forcing opinion as fact?
You need a project for this to happen?
Maybe a slightly overblown reaction to his post?
Look, we don't really look at Spyderco as competition. They are a specialty manufacturer that has done a great job for a long time now doing what they do.
We're a volume manufacturer that builds at multiple price points, in a way most can't.
I believe there is little crossover with our customer bases. It seems only on the forums are there company comparisons. Outside of the BF world...not so much.
Both good, but couldn't be farther apart as far as how our business are set up.
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Though I've always been mostly into Benchmade I have to give Kershaw a lot of credit. Everything I've had from them has been top notch and always so perfectly sharp out of the box. I also think it's quite a company that's willing to put out items like the Ripcord and the External Toggle. Off the beaten path type knives that you don't see everyone else making but that are really cool to own and use.
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I haven't seen anyone put it that way before, that is a pretty cool perspective on the knife industry.
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I agree HWPB, that sure is an interesting perspective into the respective positions of Spyderco and Kershaw in the industry. We do seem to have a very focused/narrow view here on BF, nice to hear how the broader perspective is seen by someone who's in a position to know (in more ways than one
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No not really. Read again:
Telling people they dont know anything if they dont crown Kershaw king is force feeding. Whether it be Spyderco, Benchmade, or Kershaw it comes down to personal preferance. I personally believe quality > quantity. I agree Kershaw is a much bigger company than Spyderco and Spyderco is a more specialised company. Sal has even said so himself. That doesnt mean Kershaw is a superior company. I mean Gerber is bigger than Spyderco but does that mean they are better? Hell no.
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Depends on one's definition of "better". Does better equate to gross sales? Build quality? Or...
It seems from your perspective Spyderco is the king. From your original post, the king is defined by innovation, quality, and specialized projects for their base. That's fair enough, and certainly a grouping of solid attributes that can be considered when crowning one manufacturer "better" than another. I'm sure there would be a solid, level headed thread that could be had with all of this, but that seems a little off topic here.
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Asking price or selling price? I paid $125 for the one I owned and I sold it for less than I paid, all of this within the last 2-3 years.
i never said it wasn't a quality knife...but it wasn't a winning investment for me.
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As a mildly experienced knife buyer and hobbyist, I see no reason for any intilligent person to expect a knife to be an "investment".
"Buy knives that you like" seems to be good advice to me - sometimes the buying leads to profit and then, and only then, should one be surprised and happy.
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Kershaw makes many fine knives and provides great warranty service. Their best knives compete with the best from Spyderco and Benchmade.
Kershaw's cheap stuff (like the Vapor) isn't very good. I don't think Spyderco or Benchmade make anything that cheap, but they don't make anything as bad, either.
Walmart is all about cheap, though. They sell cheap Gerbers and some of the cheaper Buck models. They sell some Victorinox knives, but those are cheap AND good.
Kershaw's cheap stuff (like the Vapor) isn't very good. I don't think Spyderco or Benchmade make anything that cheap, but they don't make anything as bad, either.
Walmart is all about cheap, though. They sell cheap Gerbers and some of the cheaper Buck models. They sell some Victorinox knives, but those are cheap AND good.
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They sell 5 USA Kershaw models in store, including the Blur and Leek. Last time I looked they're not bad or cheap...just saying.
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What you see isn't all there there is to see. Lots of intelligent people buy knives with an eye toward them appreciating in value. Talk to Jill Jackson about her Spyderco collection if you don't care for my opinion.
But to address the main point, I didn't buy the Bump as an investment. I bought it because I thought I would like it. Turns out I didn't, and since it was am limited edition knife, the basic laws of supply and demand should have applied. They didn't.
No need to belabor the point because this thread isn't about my Bump.
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Funny. Last time you called me out on lackluster steel options from Kershaw in comparison to Spyderco you got schooled like a pre-schooler and amazingly remained silent. Here's a reminder: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8700656&postcount=48
Opinions are not facts. They are two different things. No one in the cutlery business puts out more models, with a wide range of styles and features, and great value, or the volume of sales that Kershaw achieves. If you want to throw crap in the mix (Gerber, etc) then that might change the story. But of the three listed, facts remain facts and Kershaw wins.
You do know that I buy (and like) plenty of Spyderco and Benchmades right? Or do you just see anything that doesn't say "Spyderco is teh bestest eva" and spaz out?
You put Spyderco first because of an opinion...innovation. Like what, maybe putting the same hole and opening system on 99% of their designs?
I put Kershaw first because of facts and cash. You know, the two things that make people FIRST in the real world.
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Have you read all the post's in this thread? I don't think Kershaw is
getting force fead down anyone's throat. Do you have some kind of
fetish with J-Curd? You sure do follow him around trying to force feed
your shit down his throat. With that being said, how about you STFU,
grow up and stop acting like a damn noob.
Now, you have yourself a fine day.
