Controversial Threads

I think the only caveat that should be placed on the majority of opinions and information on the board is that it is not unbiased. As long as people understand that and make up their own minds the provocative can be healthy.

You will not find many collectors or dealers pointing "controversial" remarks towards makers or materials that feature heavily in their collection or inventory. Education of new collectors may sometimes be construed as cultivation of prospective buyers.

....aaah, my cynicism returns to warm me like a fine malt on a winters night!

Stephen
 
If I offended anyone in my post on the micarta thread, I appoligize and realize I mis-stated my point. Kevin, this goes to you especially. I love reading your posts and learn alot from the things you discuss. Also you really keep these forums alive and going which is great. Keep it that way!
 
Kevin, keep doing what you're doing. Good stuff :thumbup:

Threads like these, keep this place alive and more interesting than other forums.
 
This is a WORTHLESS S.O.B, SOB thread!!!

QUick, someone show a picture of a knife.. :yawn:
D.
 
jonathan brand said:
If I offended anyone in my post on the micarta thread, I appoligize and realize I mis-stated my point. Kevin, this goes to you especially. I love reading your posts and learn alot from the things you discuss. Also you really keep these forums alive and going which is great. Keep it that way!
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Jon, we're all learning here and having fun. If you miss-state your point, go back and re-state it. I have put my foot in my mouth more than once and will probably do it again.:D Keep reading and posting:thumbup:
 
WWG = MMS? I don't think so....

STeven is only partially right. My own sense of communication plays a role in my Kumbaya presence. I've always been non-combative, and Les, errrr, WWG will remember many docile conversations from the old TKCL email list before I had anything to do with photography.

Jot Khalsa signs his emails with this, and I somewhat concur:

The Three Laws of Prosperity:
Be kind to everyone
Never speak ill of anyone
Never speak ill of yourself

Yogi Bhajan

Not such a bad formula..... :thumbup: ;) :)

That said, I REALLY enjoy the balance that others bring to the forum. ;)

Coop
 
Great discussions all around , we are all opinionated , we all disagree sometimes but in the end we are all better for it.

enjoy reading your threads.
 
Surprised to log on and see all these replies. Thanks guys and girl for the kind words.

I was actually in the airport this morning waiting to pick-up a business associate for a meeting. As his plane was a couple hours late I was just going through my old threads on my laptop (don't you just love wireless?) and as I read thought:
"Jones, you seriously need to lighten up, people go to the forum to relax and because they enjoy it not to be pressured and drugged through controversy". :(

Thus this thread. So I guess you guys are OK with my raving, so I will just continue until someone tells me to shut the hell up. :eek: ;)

Thanks again for the show of support.
 
Stephen F said:
I think the only caveat that should be placed on the majority of opinions and information on the board is that it is not unbiased. As long as people understand that and make up their own minds the provocative can be healthy.

You will not find many collectors or dealers pointing "controversial" remarks towards makers or materials that feature heavily in their collection or inventory. Education of new collectors may sometimes be construed as cultivation of prospective buyers.

....aaah, my cynicism returns to warm me like a fine malt on a winters night!

Stephen
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Stephen, nice to have back. We have missed your sharp wit, honest and practical post. Know you are traveling and working hard, but try to join us more often.
 
I enjoy the more controversial threads on these forums. I have noticed Kevin is good about picking an area that pops up on one subject and taking it on as a new thread for further comment on that portion of the previous thread. I like that. Keep it up, Kevin. :thumbup:
Other sites I check occasionally can be rather ho-hum due to too many "Nice knife, you suck" comments and that is it. The most knowledge I have picked up here has come from the threads that become rather heated at times, but always seem to work themselves out in the wash. Makes me want to come back for more.
Plus, the custom knife experience of the participants here is amazing. Makes it worth the price of admission, and some of the longer threads can require a bag of popcorn. :)

- Joe
 
Hi Stephen

You wrote:

"You will not find many collectors or dealers pointing "controversial" remarks towards makers or materials that feature heavily in their collection or inventory."

If you were going to talk bad about them or make controversial remarks....why would you have those makers or materials in your collection or inventory???

WWG
 
I know a guy that has a couple of D. E. Henry bowies, and he doesn't have one nice thing to say about the maker. The reason was that he bought the knives as investments and it didn't matter that he thought Henry was a jerk.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
I know a guy that has a couple of D. E. Henry bowies, and he doesn't have one nice thing to say about the maker. The reason was that he bought the knives as investments and it didn't matter that he thought Henry was a jerk.
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Interesting point.

From a collecting an especially an investing standpoint it's a very prudent philosophy to collect only on the knife's merit and to leave the emotion out of it.

However, I will not buy from a maker I don't like. Period. It kind of goes along with my "it's not just about the knife" philosophy.
I try not to buy from dealers I don't like, but have once because it was a very special piece.

A collection may suffer as a result of this policy, but hasn't affected me so much as there's not many makers or dealers I don't care for.

Same with investing, I will not invest in a company where I don't agree with their management style, policies and/or direction.

How important is this to you guys?
 
Stephen F said:
I think the only caveat that should be placed on the majority of opinions and information on the board is that it is not unbiased. As long as people understand that and make up their own minds the provocative can be healthy.

You will not find many collectors or dealers pointing "controversial" remarks towards makers or materials that feature heavily in their collection or inventory. Education of new collectors may sometimes be construed as cultivation of prospective buyers.

....aaah, my cynicism returns to warm me like a fine malt on a winters night!

Stephen
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Conversly, few dealers talk of makers whose work is not in inventory or not in plans for future inventory. I notice this especially is true when it comes to mag interviews.
 
Hi Bastid,

I don't know if your comment is fair. I know for my part when I get interviewed (which is often) I go out of my way to mention a maker if he/she is relevant to the article, whether I carry their work or not.

There may be several reasons why I don't carry a particular makers work. Mostly what it comes down to is that without unlimited capital you can only buy so many knives from so many makers.

Will I give makers I work with a good word, yes if it is germane to the article. When I write articles for Blade and KI almost all of those articles are about makers I work with.

One thing you need to understand about these articles is many times they will only contact particular dealers for particular articles. Due to the very fact they carry that type of work. As you can imagine I don't get interviewed as much for articles on engraved or scrimshawed knives or those with jigged bone/mokume or giraffe bone. :D

WWG
 
WoodWorkGhost said:
Hi Stephen

You wrote:

"You will not find many collectors or dealers pointing "controversial" remarks towards makers or materials that feature heavily in their collection or inventory."

If you were going to talk bad about them or make controversial remarks....why would you have those makers or materials in your collection or inventory???

WWG
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I think that WWG's question is right on target. I would be interested to see Stephen's answer, if he has one.

I think that all collectors have to reach their own judgements as to where an unbiased analysis ends and the infomercial begins. When WWG adds a new maker, I may not rush out and buy a knife from him, but I will put the maker on my radar and make a point of examining his work, in order to formulate my own opinion. I frankly would be stupid, if I did not to avail myself of his expertise.

Conversely, if I see a newer maker with mad skills, Tommy Gann, JS comes to mind, I had no hesitation introducing him to WWG. Who knows, a win win situation may develop for both of them. I don't own any knives from Tommy, but I have two on order. Are my comments now an infomercial, designed so that a year or two from now, I might make $75 by selling one of them?

Would that invalidate my opinion, or perhaps validate it?

I guess that is for you to decide. ;)

P

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