Cool New Small Crowbar for a Survival Kit...

Nice picture! :D

TOPS needs to relax a little, being mentioned in a forum is free advertising for a smart businessman.....
 
LOL. Didn't see that. They have been ripped off by Chinese knockoffs really badly, so I can understand this. I don't think the hotlink blocks can be that fine-tuned that they can filter in or out certain sites...
 
Burglar tool in Ohio. In our county you would be arrested , up to you to convince judge it was for some other purpose.
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If you view it that way, that's a function of the person not the tool.

It would be an excellent rescue tool, and excellent SHTF tool IMHO.

A knife could be a weapon, too. But we view it as a tool.

Wait, was the thumbs down because of the tool itself or the laws in Ohio? Maybe I misunderstood.
 
Illinois has some of those "burglary tools" on hte books also, but usually they are selectively enforced.

Person A has no criminal record, and has a crowbar in his vehicle...no problem.
Person B has record for burglary, and has a crowbar in his vehicle......problem. (sometimes but not always)

Pays to not be a dirtbag! :D
 
Brian Jones said:
Wait, was the thumbs down because of the tool itself or the laws in Ohio? Maybe I misunderstood.
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I think he meant :thumbdn: to a silly law. The crowbar could be considered a "burglary tool" at the discretion of an officer, and at the very least may lead to it's confiscation while you make your case in court. The law could include something as simple as a screwdriver if the officer thinks you may use it as such.
 
Okay, but this isn't the knife law forum. Let's stick to discussion about its usefulness as a bug-out tool.
 
I'm sure when the technically-savvy persecutor (pun fully intended) does some research on the nifty tool and views the picture where it is cranked in a strike (with the Yale mortise cylinder in the picture) you'll be in for a nice time in court. :D

TOPS is always ultra-proud of their stuff, I wonder how much that thing is going to cost. ( :rolleyes: ) It might be my stupid computer but a price didn't show up along with most of the rest of the page.

I want to see a video of that thing popping a door like that if the bolt is more than one inch like it's supposed to be. Steel frame door, steel door, all reinforced, I would be amazed.

Five-pin Yale tumbler mortise cylinder meets a Leatherman WAVE's file, a coathanger and a piece of windshield wiper blade - VOILA! :D

That thing? Cool, indeed. Is that photo indicative of what you will be able to force? I honestly don't know. If the door is installed properly and hasn't been the target of past burglaries, I doubt it. Put a piece of pipe on the end of it, that would increase your chances...

Is it better than the dirt cheap CountyComm breaker tool? Don't know, the wide spread on the TOPS tool looks more effective for that type of entry.

Stanley Wonder Bar at Home Depot? About $10.00

The TOPS tool would make mincemeat of wood doors of similar size, though.

People's various comments about burglary tools are on the money. Officer's discretion and all of that, that's why their discretionary powers should be curtailed. If you find someone with that thing stuck in a door's strike, okay, that's burglary. Having all of the preemption laws like "burglary tools" and those against purchasing too much Sudafed (war on drugs and promotion of a prison economy) are tyrannical in my opinion. No man, woman or group of same should have the power to cause anyone thousands of dollars in legal bills because they want to make a name for themselves in their line of work, policeman or persecutor alike.

Look on the bright side though, if you tell the policeman that it's for an emergency and it's in your "bug out bag," maybe you will get some free institutional food when you are in for your Psych-Eval. :D

I'm being half-facetious, I think all of these laws suck and I think they are stupid and for small-minded people. You can get by with a bleach jug, razor knife and the aforementioned improvised pieces of material in a big way.
 
Brian Jones said:
Okay, but this isn't the knife law forum. Let's stick to discussion about its usefulness as a bug-out tool.
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Sorry, I was composing that post while you were posting.

There is enough commentary in there about the actual use of it, it's a meaty post - and this is coming from someone who is a former Alarm Service Investigator. :D
 
Don Rearic said:
Sorry, I was composing that post while you were posting.

There is enough commentary in there about the actual use of it, it's a meaty post - and this is coming from someone who is a former Alarm Service Investigator. :D
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I know - I saw you down there reading and knew what was coming, so I tried a pre-emptive strike. :D
 
I told you before you had an unnatural love for Homer Simpson. :)

What do you think about what I wrote, that is the Q.
 
I think a tool like this needs some law discussed or people here who haven't dealt with the vagaries of the law and its enforcement can get themselves in trouble.

Go out and buy it and try it around the house but don't wave it around the street to show off to your friends. Rats are everywhere, even on these forums.

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I wonder how the TOPS Pry and Probe matches up to the Boker Cop Tool, whenever that comes out?
 
Oh SURE Esav. Go and contradict me in public whydoncha???!!! Sheesh!

Can't a guy get any respect anymore?:rolleyes:

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Esav Benyamin said:
I think a tool like this needs some law discussed or people here who haven't dealt with the vagaries of the law and its enforcement can get themselves in trouble.

Go out and buy it and try it around the house but don't wave it around the street to show off to your friends. Rats are everywhere, even on these forums.
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Yeah, that mess with the guy killing the racoon or whatever was more than a little over the top.

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I wonder how the TOPS Pry and Probe matches up to the Boker Cop Tool, whenever that comes out?
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I think I am supposed to get one of those to review soon, I think. :)
 
Go out and buy it and try it around the house
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Yup.........it's when you try it on SOMEONE ELSE'S house; that there is a problem LOL

I like the tool. Will definitely save your knife and finger nails some serious wear and tear.
 
It looks like someone went after a pry bar with a grinder. It looks like its a functional tool but it is only part of a pry bar that somebody got grinder happy with and wrapped with paracord and some o-rings. Since it is a TOPS I'm pretty sure it will be quite pricey and sold as a "tactical" widget.

If its less then $15 it might be worth it.
 
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