COOLEST new pen of the year!

Dexter,
I have been tempted by the Ion, but have some misgivings about the liquid ink resevoir. I imagine it cracking and leaking in my pocket. It's a neat pen though. I actually looked at it again today while at Staples. They do write very smoothly, and the rubber grip is pretty comfortable.

I'll see you in Atlanta more than likely.
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Paul
 
Paul - you don't need to worry about the Ion's refill cracking and leaking. Even though it is visible when the pen is closed - even more so when it is open - it is well protected. Plus, it's gel ink, not liquid. Neat little stubby writing thing
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At their price they make excellent gifts.

Yup, I will certainly see you in Hotlanta!

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I might have to check one of those out then. I got turned off by liquid ink roller balls (for pocket carry anyway) a few years ago, when I had two leak in my pocket in less than a year. The pants were just jeans, but it really pissed me off.
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Paul
 
My Retro 51 Tornado was a capless rollerball till I refilled it with a Fisher ballpoint. Lost a favourite shirt that way. I think the pen tip wias just barely peeking out, but that's all it takes.
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I have washed my Fisher pens a few times with no problems. Threw away almost a full load of laundry once that had a uni-ball in it. *sigh*


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Clay Fleischer
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Paul - if you don't get to see one before Blade, I'll let you see mine at the show. Trust me, you'll like it.

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Does anyone make a non pressurized ballpoint or roller ball refill that fits the Fisher pens? I love my chrome bullet pen with stylus tip, but I'm not too crazy about the occasional blobs and smearing from the space refill.

Axel
 
Well, I guess I should chime in here. My experience is different than you folks. Because of this post, I just couldn't resist and ordered the telescoping pen. I've always been a fan of the Fisher Space Pens and thought this one should be a winner.

I ordered it through Penwa and have to say their service is better than this pen. I received the pen about three days after I ordered it online from them.

First it wouldn't retract everytime you pushed it closed, and second, it wrote blotchily as hell. I e-mailed them and received a nice response from Lori saying she would send a replacement pen and a return mailer right out. Three days later I received a new replacement and a postage paid little box already addressed to them to send back the defective pen in. What great service and a nice added touch!

Well, the new replacement writes a little better than the first one but it is still blotchy. I see no writing improvement over my other Space Pens, (I have two that I bought years ago), in fact IMHO, I think these are more blotchy than my old ones. This after trying TWO of these.

I'm not trying to be a wet blanket here especially since all of you folks are satified with yours. I'm just sharing my experience with this pen. I will state that it is a well built and sturdy pen and my replacement pen is mechanically sound. Just doesn't write as expected.

I also want to say that you can't do any better than dealing with Penwa. If you're looking for a GREAT place to buy a new pen, they can't be beat. Their service is EXEMPLARY!


 
I just got my telescoping pen, too. Cool little gadget! Mine works perfectly, but I'm reserving judgement on how well it writes. I'm not seeing outright blotchiness, like Gene, but in the beginning when I'd first start open the pen and start to write, there might be a blotch, as if it's leaking a little bit while being carried. That seems to have gone away, and now it's writing fine.

I'm going to order some blue refills (I hate black ink!), and also a couple blue refills for my Rotring Quattro (I'm hoping the blue Fischer refills for the Trio also fit the Quattro). My Quattro is just awesome, it's got a blue refill, highlighter refill, .5mm pencil refill, and a PDA stylus, so it's perfectly customized for me. Just wish the blue pen refill wrote a little smoother!

Joe
 
If you have any problems with the Fisher cartridge, just mail it back to Fisher (I think a standard letter envelope with standard postage will do it) and they will send another out ASAP. Not only will you get a replacement, maybe it will help their future QC.

Joe, I just got a Rotring Quattro on ebay. It is not the one with the stylus, but I have a spare stylus tip to put in it. Hoping it will be better than my Lamy Twist Tri-Pen, which is nice, but has it's weaknesses.

Will post a comparison shortly of both shortly after I get it.

You rotring owners -- is the highlighter a good option or am I just as well to stick with a red ink pen in slot 4?


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Clay Fleischer
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Clay --

Yeah, the stylus was an add-on for me, too. I replaced the red pen with the stylus, and black pen with the highlighter.

So, what do I think of the highlighter? It is marginally thicker than the red pen would be, and has a more eye-catching orangey-peach color. It is not in any sense a real highlighter, where it's thick enough to highlight words by stroking it right over. I use it as an eye-catching underliner. The highlighter is also more tempermental than the red pen -- I often have to give the highlighter a few priming strokes on scrap paper before I start my session.

I'd have a lot of trouble recommending the highlighter, because of the tempermental refill, and possible expectations of a true thick highlighter. On the other hand, I still have my highlighter in instead of my red refill. I would say that if you typically actually write in red ink, you definitely want to stick with the red pen. If you don't actually write or make notes/corrections in red ink, so you're just looking for an underliner, the highlighter is worth a shot.

Joe
 
A few notes.

On the Parker refills, I no longer see and X-Fine, so no idea if they still make them. I saw a Parker refill with different packaging, and "new improved ink," so it is probable there is again only one line of Parker refills.

Hmm, I never thought about the stylus being interchangable as a refill. I'll have to keep that in mind and check for them.

The Rotring Orange is the nicest, I have tried, but some priming is necessary if it has not been used for a while. I believe the Lamy Orange is shorter than std. so be careful. It was first, and I made an adaptor to use it in a regular friction fit socket....a small piece of brass sawn off of a Fisher adjustable size refill.

Of the friction fit refills, the Lamy seem to write the smoothest and are more like a regular medium point. Of course that uses more ink. If you want finer stick with Fisher or another brand.

If you do not like pressurized Fisher refills, perhaps you could cut down or remove the plastic top from Parker. The textured Parker carbide ball really does write well.

My refill from Fisher in the telescoping pen is great, but I have one of those write forever models that splotches so much I stopped using it...yeah eventually I'll send it in.

I disagree with one of the comments on the regular Cross refills. The newer ones are superb, a different, more vibrant ink.

Sorry to hear the Cross gel ink smears.

Parker gel points do not smear as compared to their regular floating ball point and since neither writes especially well (as of a couple of years ago.. a dead heat..) I do not see why they do not discontinue the regular floating ball and stick to the gel.

My instructions to my "floating ball" Parker Sonnet mentioned using a ballpoint, but when I excitedly checked with Parker, about the adaptor to use their great ballpoints, the person I spoke with said, to paraphrase, Huunnnh????
 
Thanks for the info, Joe. The highlighter refills seemed more than the red ink ones and I wasn't sure if they would Xerox. I forgot that my fiance's Yafa Quadro has a highlighter. Will check that out.

For the stylus tip, I have the yellow one from a Retro 51 data pen currently in my Lamy Twisr Tri pen. It is better than the white one that came in the Lamy. The white one I put in the Retro 51 which I gave to a friend. Didn't care much for the action on the Retro. It was difficult to twist, espacially with one hand.

The Lamy is the exact opposite -- it twist too easily and it is easy to pass by the tip you want as the detent is very weak for each point. It would also help if there was a detent between each point so that it would be easier to close. In all other respects it is a nice pen. I have my surname engraved on it, so I can't resell it but I think I will put a different coloured refill in place of the stylus and give it to my brother for his birthday.
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Clay Fleischer
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Went to get a Cross Ion today. Didn't really care for it. Got a Sensa Minx instead. Very cool little pen. Small enough for pocket carry, yet big enough for comfort. Comes with a nice black leather slip pouch, and uses Fisher refills.
Check it out at www.sensa.com

Paul

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A quick further update:

I changed out the blue pen in my Rotring Quattro with a Fischer multi-pen replacement from penwa. The Fischer fit my Quattro no problem, and writes a bit better than my Rotring did. So, now, my Rotring is perfect!

While I was ordering from penwa anyway, I also ordered a blue replacement for the black pen in my telescoping pen. I ordered a fine and medium replacement. INterestingly enough, the fine cartridge did not work in my telescoping pen -- the friction fit had no friction! I'm going to wrap some tape around it to get it a touch thicker, and see if it helps. The medium cartridge worked no problem, and that's what's in my telescoping pen right now.

Joe
 
A pox on you guys! Since coming back to this board, I've bought two knives, traded for another one, and now had the irrepressible urge to order this stupid pen. The bride is NOT going to be happy...

I thought I was over my need for gadgets; guess not...<G>

Great discussions and info here; and most everybody is civilized.

Well, at least I'll be the only guy in the office with his very own telescoping pen.

Steve
 
There is a lot (good) to be said about a Cross Ion... especially in summer when Tee shirts are the norm. Holds a lot of ink, closes on compression, no cap to lose, girls think it is cute and, the best part... no supid pen in my shirt pocket making me look like an accountant or order taker! Try one, you will like it (Cross Ion $22 in better pen stores)
 
Hmmm... would love to see a head to head comparo of the Ion and the Telescoping Pen. Anyone have both?
 
Oh yeah, I meant to ask -- where do you guys carry your Telescoping Pens? I have started carrying mine in my back left pocket (the only one that was previously empty). Doesn't hurt to sit on, can withstand the crushing weight of my a$$, and is easy to get out.

The only thing this pen needs is an way to open it with one hand. David Rock and I were discussing epoxying a stud or something to the telescoping end. I was also thinking of epoxying a stylus tip on that end.
 
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