Could it be that Wally World is finally losing it's stranglehold on certain manufacturers?

What is most strange about Walmart selling them for $60, is that Buck themselves sells them for about the same price on their website.
I always used to see the manufacturers selling their own stuff at a bloated full retail, so as not to compete against their stocking dealers. And yet we have Wally World and Buck selling the same model for the same price 🤔

I would expect that Buck would have them for at least 20 to 40 dollars more than their stocking dealers usually have them for.

Walmart's pricing matching what the manufacturer and other dealers sell theirs for, sure doesn't fit with the whole discount prices that Wally World is known for 🤔

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In my rural area : $38.48 in the box , but $60 if you order the clamshell .

Masochists enjoy paying extra ?

Have to order , not in store .
 
Picked up my last 110 at Wallyworld in Denver, paid around $35 as I recall. I met Chuck Buck in Calgary I think in 2009 at the opening of the BassPro Shop at Crossiron Mills shopping mall. He autographed the blade with an engraver, and mentioned that Walmart sold them as a loss leader -- it was really a $65 knife. One of the best bangs for the Buck (sorry 😜 ) IMHO.
 
I got this Boone & Crockett edition Buck 110 in the 50th year anniversary of the Buck 110, (in 2014)... I paid a whopping $29.98 for it! 👍😁👍

It was purchased at a big box sporting goods store... Think of the common nickname for Richard, and you'll know what store it was 😅

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That year I also purchased the standard Buck 110 50th Anniversary version.
I think I paid $50 for that one. Got it somewhere in one of my display cases 👍
 
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I must say, Buck teaming up with that guitar company to have their Buck 110's back to sporting real ebony wood handle scales... A brilliant move!

That's how I ended up with my 5th Buck 110 specimen. I mean, I thought having 4 specimens was more than just fine, and then they came out with the real ebony wood again... Yup, one of those became my 5th Buck 110 😁
 
PocketKnifeJimmy said:
I must say, Buck teaming up with that guitar company to have their Buck 110's back to sporting real ebony wood handle scales... A brilliant move!

That's how I ended up with my 5th Buck 110 specimen. I mean, I thought having 4 specimens was more than just fine, and then they came out with the real ebony wood again... Yup, one of those became my 5th Buck 110 😁
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You can never have too many 110s.
 
I'll take this opportunity to trash Wally World. Years ago I was buying Fruit Of The Loom socks and stuck to that brand. I noticed the same brand, name, style, packaging looked almost entirely the same but slightly different color. After buying a pack for 25% cheaper than other stores I discovered they were significantly less soft and fell apart faster. After I learned that the same product was made in different countries, meaning different quality. I believe Wally Worlds versions were made in the poorer of countries. That's Wally World in a nut shell.
 
NeedItCheaper said:
I'll take this opportunity to trash Wally World. Years ago I was buying Fruit Of The Loom socks and stuck to that brand. I noticed the same brand, name, style, packaging looked almost entirely the same but slightly different color. After buying a pack for 25% cheaper than other stores I discovered they were significantly less soft and fell apart faster. After I learned that the same product was made in different countries, meaning different quality. I believe Wally Worlds versions were made in the poorer of countries. That's Wally World in a nut shell.
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I've shopped WM most of my long life .

Strange... I never noticed this vast conspiracy . :rolleyes:
 
can't comment on socks and underwear from Walmart, but Buck has said many times from the top management that the same 110 your favorite Buck dealer gets is from the same line as the ones Walmart gets. no difference in products at all. there is no lower grade Buck 110 going to walmart. Buck won't lower material quality for any dealer including Walmart. sure they arent alone on that.
 
I do know that Walmart will have certain items made specifically for their stores by manufacturers. It's not with everything, but they do do it.
For instance, Wally World would have Buck package up the Buck 110 knives in packaging that had a Walmart only product number. I believe the only cut corner was the nylon sheath instead of having a leather one. They seem to now offer the same product Buck 110 as everyone else.

My ex wife and I had once purchased what we thought was a standard model laptop computer, only to later find out that the savings we made, was because the computer had some cut out features, and we even later noticed that it was indeed a different product number that we found out was a Walmart specific deal.
One just has to be a bit more careful when buying there, or one may fall for the "just as good as buying from somewhere else, but cheaper" thing.
Yup, they are big and powerful, and... They do sometimes have watered down products made specifically for sale at their stores. They may give you the sense that you're getting some killer deal, when it's only because it's actually a lesser product.
I am not just spreading rumor... This really does occur. Not with all products, of course... But with some. If one does a bit of homework on them, one should be fine. Just don't buy blindly 👍

This doesn't have to be all bad, as sometimes they have things made that are exclusively made for Walmart only, and may be more desirable to some folks. They used to sell some "Walmart only" Ruger 10/22 rifles, and they were sought after by some folks 👍
 
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NeedItCheaper said:
Some people walk through life without noticing much. Happens, don't feel bad about it.
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Beats inventing problems to worry about . ;)

Most stuff ordered thru WM has 90day return .

Most other places are 30d at best .

So if my fake WM undies blow out ...they got me covered for 3 months . :p
 
PocketKnifeJimmy said:
I do know that Walmart will have certain items made specifically for their stores by manufacturers. It's not with everything, but they do do it.
For instance, Wally World would have Buck package up the Buck 110 knives in packaging that had a Walmart only product number. I believe the only cut corner was the nylon sheath instead of having a leather one. They seem to now offer the same product Buck 110 as everyone else.

My ex wife and I had once purchased what we thought was a standard model laptop computer, only to later find out that the saving we made, was because the computer had some cut out features, and we even later noticed that it was indeed a different product number that we found out was Walmart specific.
One just has to be a bit more careful when buying there, or one may fall for the "just as good as buying from somewhere else, but cheaper" thing.
Yup, they are big and powerful, and... They do sometimes have watered down products made specifically for sale at their stores. They may give you the sense that you're getting some killer deal, when it's only because it's actually a lesser product.
I am not just spreading rumor... This really doesoccur.
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sorry that isn't true at all on the Buck 110. Walmart has the leather sheath 110 too now, btw, even in the 35 dollar regional 110. they had the nylon option, but other Buck dealers had this too during that time and at a lower price point. it was a Buck option. much like in a box or a clampack. it was not a walmart only deal.

I'll say it again since it didnt seem to catch on.........Buck upper Management has said many times over many years...... there never has been a special walmart line at Buck on standard products...not counting special unique knife runs dealers used to get from Buck until they stopped that practice recently. on regular products like the regular run 110 its the same products and options available to every other dealer.....

I'm no Walmart fan, for my own reasons, and i don't shop there but let's not spread misinformation.....


didnt know we were gonna talk socks and computers too, but every very large box store has had different model numbers and different features, options special runs etc to compete on electronics, computers and appliances etc. price matching exact items is very tricky you have to know the products and pay attention to the details. this has been going on since forever. my old man taught me these retail tricks as a child, that are designed to confuse and fool folks. its nothing new.....
 
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I believe the only cut corner was the nylon sheath instead of having a leather one. They seem to now offer the same product Buck 110 as everyone else.
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Um, I had already mentioned that it seems that now the same Buck 110 package is offered at Walmart like pretty much everyone else.
It was many years ago that I noticed them being offered there with the nylon sheaths, while the standard grade was offered elsewhere with the leather ones. Also, I mentioned that I believed that the only cut corner seemed to have been the nylon sheath.
 
My Big 5 and such only has M-Tech, Tac-Force... this is down from Byrd, Kershaw, and Tac-Force last month.

No Walmart knife buying, no big box stores, I do not think, no sir, not for me.
 
PocketKnifeJimmy said:
Um, I had already mentioned that it seems that now the same Buck 110 package is offered at Walmart like pretty much everyone else.
It was many years ago that I noticed them being offered there with the nylon sheaths, while the standard grade was offered elsewhere with the leather ones. Also, I mentioned that I believed that the only cut corner seemed to have been the nylon sheath.
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and other dealers had that same option.....and sold it that way too during that time frame. Walmart was cheaper than the other dealers. regardless it wasn't a different cheapened up line from Buck that no one else had access to.
 
DocJD said:
I've shopped WM most of my long life .

Strange... I never noticed this vast conspiracy . :rolleyes:
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That is because as noted above, people like us are not "in the know". We don't know all the current conspiracies that rule and dictate our very being now; only those that speak in hushed tones to one another, someone else "in the know" have the real truth. In fact (I won't speak for you DocJD DocJD !) I might be so unconscious I might not recognize the truth uncovered by those with their "own sources".

Two things are amusing about this thread. First, why is it that ANY manufacturer, supplier, vendor or maker is REQUIRED to do business with Walmart? Can those in the know cite a law, a city code, or legal ruling? Is there any proof anywhere that says everyone has to do business with Walmart or they will suffer consequences? Another aspect might be to consider business with Walmart is a dance with the devil. It is their stores, their distribution system, their employees, etc. If you want to do business with Walmart (waiting for some good GoogleFu here to show me a document of some sort saying it is mandatory) you play by their rules. But in fact, Walmart, the world's largest retailer has vendors knocking down its doors to get shelf space. And if it can be mutually beneficial, Walmart will help the entity that wants to be a "partner" iron out its business and be more successful, at their cost. Sure, it is a form of non-altruistic generosity, but still it is there. It isn't like they wait for someone to go broke, the pick up the vendor name for a song and start making the product themselves. Note the story of Levi's Jeans. Their association put millions back onto the black side of the ledger from a failing company, and made them more efficient. From on time deliveries, market flexibility, quantifiable data such as delivery times and amounts, it was a win/win.

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There are plenty of other stories like that. And of course, there are plenty of other stories about folks that didn't/couldn't/wouldn't keep up their end of the bargain with Walmart. Then the edible carrot becomes the stick. With something like 40,000 vendors, they don't have time to nursemaid everyone, and from what I have read in Forbes, Business Week, WSJ op-ed pieces, etc.they make it abundantly clear that working with them requires discipline and determination.

No one makes a vendor make a thinner T shirt. They want the money, they sell out and make a cheaper T shirt for the market exposure. No one makes Hellman's Mayonnaise take a price cut to be on the shelves, but if you make the cut and get shelf space you could be seen in over 11,000 stores daily, or (as of 2020) 37 million potential clients a day. A single day. What is it worth to get just a piece of that kind of exposure? How much greed is in the company soul to lower the quality of your product to make a quick buck? (Speaking of Buck, I was glad to see the comments quoted from Mr. Buck saying all 110s are the same, and HE didn't sell his soul, or the company's reputation).

A dance with the devil to be sure, but if it works, untold riches are available to those that can make the leap. And of course, those that can't are in tears.

The second thing is that it is a bit odd to criticize pricing and companies that keep prices low on vendors so they can be kept low in the stores The same people that complain about vendors not getting a fair shake are shameless in their delight at finding a knife deal, in some cases a knife that was selling for many times the actual purchase price claimed by the poster. So if it is another seller besides Walmart, is that OK?
 
I seldom step foot in (let alone buy anything at) a Walmart but, if Buck 110's are selling for so little there, why aren't more people flipping them?

Or maybe they are and I just haven't noticed because I still have the one that I bought over 50 years ago. LOL! ;)
 
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