Cpm-3v vs a2?

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3V for me.


...and I can easily put a better edge on 3V than on A2.

For some reason, A2 (*like D2) always leaves me with a kinda' micro-serrated edge that I can strop a bit to make better.



*"To each his own", "Your mileage may vary", yada, yada, yada.
 
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Alone said:
3V for me.


...and I can easily put a better edge on 3V than on A2.

For some reason, A2 (*like D2) always leaves me with a kinda' micro-serrated edge that I can strop a bit to make better.



*"To each his own", "Your mileage may vary", yada, yada, yada.
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I've only experienced A2 with chisels and plane blades from companies who I'd guess will have better HT's than most/any knife Co. Karl Holtey certainly as good as you could get and I've always found my A2 blades a pleasure to sharpen and not as you describe.
 
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Dav1 said:
I've only experienced A2 with chisels and plane blades from companies who I'd guess will have better HT's than most/any knife Co. Karl Holtey certainly as good as you could get and I've always found my A2 blades a pleasure to sharpen and not as you describe.
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I think most (*myself included) would agree that a quality heat treat is HUGE.

Admittedly, I'm not a sharpening guru. I kinda' live by the ol' adage that "I'd rather sharpen a blade for a minute a week than 45 minutes every month." I reckon that's why many "Super Steels" aren't necessarily my thing. 3V has been the exception. For me, when it comes to sharpening, I really don't notice any difference between 3V and something like 1095 or 420HC.


That being posted, LT Wright's A2 has been VERY good to me...with Bark River's as a distant second. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Alone said:
Man, I've been wanting one of those for a bit...the "M" version(?).

I've seen 'em come-up in the Exchange, but it seems I'm always behind the 8-ball (*financially) when they appear. I hope to score me one at some point.
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I hope you find one: Bro'! 😁👍
 
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3v all day. Tougher, holds a way better working edge, never had a lick of corrosion even cutting acidic food. I find it to sharpen very easy.

If corrosion is an issue where you live, aebl is great and if in you’re in Europe I love TRC and their Elmax is fantastic
 
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For me and a fixed blade, anything green goes. Within the green, design, geometry, maker and heat-treat come first.

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LostCause said:
One obviously never tried to cut potato, onion or an apple with scandi...

Try it and see. Unless the blade stock is very thin - it'll wedge it instead of cutting.
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Mate, you said only good for wood carving. You are aware other knife tasks exist than wood carving and slicing food right? Like thousands of different tasks.

Are you trolling?
 
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Dr Rez said:
Mate, you said only good for wood carving. You are aware other knife tasks exist than wood carving and slicing food right? Like thousands of different tasks.

Are you trolling?
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No. Mora robust for example will struggle with zip ties while being shaving sharp.
It will also struggle with cardboard.
And so it will with plastic clamshell...
And it'll also struggle with wire loom tubes (tubes that go into wall ans then electricians pull your wiring through them).
Won't even mention slicing ability....

Now, compare it to let's say - ESEE3. Same stock thickness as Mora Robust (if not even bit thicker) and yet it'll handle all of these tasks with ease, at the compromise of not being as good at feather sticking, batoning or carving (not saying that you still can't use them for these tasks).

And bushcraft and survival is what OP mentioned why he needs knife for.
So, in that scenario - wood processing and food prep is pretty much only stuff he can do with his knife. With exception of some craft OP could do in actual survival situation, and that craft would probably include making something out of junk, where again - scandi maybe wouldn't be that good.

Also I fail to understand why scandi grind on such large blade? Except it's easier to produce and machine...
 
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OP, did you decide on a blade? Sorry, guys, I'm a little late to party here but OP brings up a good topic and I have a couple thoughts on this.
First, from what I remember, LTWK runs 3V about the same hardness as their A2. So, really, compared to A2, the 3V is just a tad more difficult to sharpen, may hold an edge slightly longer, and of course, be significantly tougher because of the lower hardness.
Second, the more I use an LTWK in Scandi grind, the more I want to use one on anything outside the kitchen. And the thinner, the better. The Gen 6 is .125" thick w/ 6" blade length and the I5 is .156" thick with a 5" blade length.
So, considering all this, I would go for the Gen 6 any day of the week. I really don't think I could ever even with a reasonable mechanical advantage exert enough force to break the Gen 6.
Curious what the OP decided on....
 
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Bloodloss said:
OP, did you decide on a blade? Sorry, guys, I'm a little late to party here but OP brings up a good topic and I have a couple thoughts on this.
First, from what I remember, LTWK runs 3V about the same hardness as their A2. So, really, compared to A2, the 3V is just a tad more difficult to sharpen, may hold an edge slightly longer, and of course, be significantly tougher because of the lower hardness.
Second, the more I use an LTWK in Scandi grind, the more I want to use one on anything outside the kitchen. And the thinner, the better. The Gen 6 is .125" thick w/ 6" blade length and the I5 is .156" thick with a 5" blade length.
So, considering all this, I would go for the Gen 6 any day of the week. I really don't think I could ever even with a reasonable mechanical advantage exert enough force to break the Gen 6.
Curious what the OP decided on....
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Hello brother. First of all I hope you're having an amazing day. I decided to buy genesis in 3v coyote n black g10 mountain finish, its a side kick to my malanika leuku full tang magnacut. As I already had a similar knife to l5 and gen 6 I just opted for the genesis, and decided that cpm 3v would better run in my area, as its wet wet and another time wet. So corrosion resistance was in mind😄👍
 
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Bloodloss said:
OP, did you decide on a blade? Sorry, guys, I'm a little late to party here but OP brings up a good topic and I have a couple thoughts on this.
First, from what I remember, LTWK runs 3V about the same hardness as their A2. So, really, compared to A2, the 3V is just a tad more difficult to sharpen, may hold an edge slightly longer, and of course, be significantly tougher because of the lower hardness.
Second, the more I use an LTWK in Scandi grind, the more I want to use one on anything outside the kitchen. And the thinner, the better. The Gen 6 is .125" thick w/ 6" blade length and the I5 is .156" thick with a 5" blade length.
So, considering all this, I would go for the Gen 6 any day of the week. I really don't think I could ever even with a reasonable mechanical advantage exert enough force to break the Gen 6.
Curious what the OP decided on....
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P.S what you carrying in the woods as your knife? Right now I'm actualy thinking of buying an esee to try, but I have mixed feelings.
 
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Christian bradfort said:
Hello brother. First of all I hope you're having an amazing day. I decided to buy genesis in 3v coyote n black g10 mountain finish, its a side kick to my malanika leuku full tang magnacut. As I already had a similar knife to l5 and gen 6 I just opted for the genesis, and decided that cpm 3v would better run in my area, as its wet wet and another time wet. So corrosion resistance was in mind😄👍
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The Genesis is an outstanding knife. It's for sure one of my favorites, and that mountain finish is just icing on the cake. I also like to have a second, larger knife available and i bet that leuku is a pleasure to use. I agree, 3V would be the better choice for corrosion resistance. Nice choices!
 
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Christian bradfort said:
P.S what you carrying in the woods as your knife? Right now I'm actualy thinking of buying an esee to try, but I have mixed feelings.
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I don't get out much, but I love to spend time with my feet in the woods with a knife in my hands. I recently put down my convex Genesis in 3V to start using this Hidden Woodsmen Puukko in 3/32" AEB-L. I am absolutely blown away by how a thin stock Scandi grind knife cuts through a variety of materials. And, of course, I love to have a BK7 within reach as well.
https://imgur.com/a/zelc6r5
My friend, if you're using a Genesis with a Malanika leuku, why would you want an ESEE? You have an amazing pair of knives.
 
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