CQC7 Tanto vs ZT 700

Emerson CQC-7V

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Just a thought.
 
kurt6652 said:
The Hogue EX-02 tanto is a very sturdy and quick to deploy knife. It is a flipper or you can get it with thumb studs. The knife is a little heavy, but built like a tank.
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I saw a review for that knife. Looked interesting, but I've got relatively small hands and that handle looked huge. And if I'm completely honest the G-Mascus looked... somewhat creepy. I did like the tanto shape of the 01 though -- that axe top was sweet -- too bad they don't have a flipper version.

bad_juju said:
You could also look at the Zt 0400. My preference to the 0700
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400 is assisted. I'm not sure whether there are legal issues here with that.
 
Come on, that Gmascus is AWESOME looking... Okay it looks a little strange, but it will turn heads, and you can assuredly say that most every other knife won't look like it. I have actually handled a Hogue once, and it was a very well made knife. If it is the button lock one (unsure if they use liner locks) it is also super easy to put back in the pocket, on par with an Axis to me.
 
High King said:
400 is assisted. I'm not sure whether there are legal issues here with that.
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Thats a good point. If im not mistaken the 0400 makes a good unassisted flipper when you remove the tortion bar. Just thought I would put that out there for you! My reasoning is, the upgrade to aluminum handles and the rubberized trac-tec inserts and really beefy blade stock. I loved mine until I stupidly traded it off. Now I will be getting another, thanks for reminding me how much I miss it!
 
New member, enjoying the discussion. I've had my CQC-7 now for 3 months, love it. With the wave feature it deploys like an auto, feels great in the hand, and as kurt6652 said, it's built like a tank.
It's been my EDC knife consistently, rely on it for work and all other 'cutting related' needs.
 
Ok, here's another factor that might play into it. Is the the Emerson's wave feature essentially useless if it's NOT in a pocket?
 
High King said:
Ok, here's another factor that might play into it. Is the the Emerson's wave feature essentially useless if it's NOT in a pocket?
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In a way, yes. It still functions as a thumb ramp, but the whole purpose of the Emerson Wave is to quickly deploy the blade when pulling it from your pocket. All I can say is that it works as advertised and I love my CQC7.

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Hm, then it might not really make that much of a difference for me, since it's going to be clipped in an inconspicuous location outside of my pocket.

In fact, under such circumstances the flipper might have faster deployment. Then again, I might just ditch a tanto point altogether.
 
High King said:
Ok, here's another factor that might play into it. Is the the Emerson's wave feature essentially useless if it's NOT in a pocket?
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Loosen the pivot screw. There is a method of producing the blade called inertial opening, its buy far the best method of opening a folder under duress. The wave does work, but not always. By the companion trainer for the CQC7 and get some force on force training with it.


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High King said:
Hm, then it might not really make that much of a difference for me, since it's going to be clipped in an inconspicuous location outside of my pocket.

In fact, under such circumstances the flipper might have faster deployment. Then again, I might just ditch a tanto point altogether.
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I don't have experience with either the Emerson or the ZT, but I do have a little experience with self defense. The tanto point is great for stabbing, but they aren't the best for slashing if you don't know how to use them. When someone is attacking you, it may be easier to attack their arms and legs than their body, and it's much easier to slash at a moving limb than stab at it. I agree with Edwood7, get a trainer and practice with a partner. Just my 2 cents.
 
Edwood7 said:
Loosen the pivot screw. There is a method of producing the blade called inertial opening, its buy far the best method of opening a folder under duress. The wave does work, but not always. By the companion trainer for the CQC7 and get some force on force training with it.
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Wouldn't the pivot thing work with pretty much any folder? As far as training goes, I do have some hand-to-hand training.
 
If you've never see a SEAL practice with a 4" folder you owe it to yourself to try and find a video, or simply ask someone conversant with the subject. They train, then train some more, on lightning-like deployment, then ram the blade home in a piston-like fashion, using the off forearm as a push-back/shield. Eight or nine thrusts to to the chest/neck area will stop any assailant. It is brutal and beyond the realm of anything resembling mercy, which is something to consider when thinking of an edged weapon as a primary tool. If your life is in danger you simply must use as much force as necessary to end the threat, and most people wouldn't even consider using a knife in such situations. Too "messy". And you might want to stop believing that a simple cut or booboo will stop a crackhead or deranged maniac or even a run of the mill mugger. Some of them are so high they don't even know when they are deceased.

No, I do not have any links but have seen them working out and it is something to behold. A firearm would of course be quicker but far too noisy for certain situations.
 
I carry a folding knife every day, but it would be just about the last recourse for self defense. If you really want to be able to defend yourself, start with attaining peak physical fitness, and then get some training. If you don't know what you're doing, there's a good chance you'll be the one getting hurt with your own weapon. Strength and conditioning, above all.
 
Guys in prison die all the time from shanks, which are probably the size of folders or a lot smaller.

I would pick the Emerson for sd.
 
MajorLonghorn said:
I carry a folding knife every day, but it would be just about the last recourse for self defense. If you really want to be able to defend yourself, start with attaining peak physical fitness, and then get some training. If you don't know what you're doing, there's a good chance you'll be the one getting hurt with your own weapon. Strength and conditioning, above all.
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Generally, I agree. However, I am a small guy. And as you probably know, weight and size is a tremendous advantage in a fight. Even if I were to be able to lift 2x my own bodyweight -- someone larger would still have an upperhand if only because of his reach.

While it is true that I might injure myself with my own weapon if operating under duress, if I don't have a knife... well, I'm definitely going to be fercockt.
 
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