Crazy Hamon

sunfishman said:
Joe, I started with 5 layers, 3 - 1'' thick W2 and 2 - 1/4'' thick iron, so I figure 85% W2 and 15% iron. I did this to effect the hamon instead of a high contrast pattern, at this layer count it has complete carbon migration at around .85 carbon, it cuts great. I weld the billet, then draw it out to around 30'' and cut into 5 or 6 pieces and restack, about 6 welding heats, lot of layers with fewer welding heats this way.
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I like what I can see of the pattern. Very old school look like Bill Moran and Bill Bagwell's stuff. I wonder if i could do something similar starting with thinner pieces of W2 and 1018. I don't feel the absolute need to have that high contrast silver color. I think that I might go for 500-100 layers....lol.
 
:thumbup: Definitely a beautiful piece of work. The lines of the overall package just flow, and the shape of the fittings are outstanding. Love it :D .

Larry T
 
Wicked !! :eek: I had never been crazy about edge quenched or satenite coated damascus,( had ) , this one has my undivided attention. This knife has completely changed my mind Don, its Beautiful ! I can no longer make the above mentioned statement. I just love this Damascus Blade w/ Hamon :thumbup:, Guard , Handle, all perfect. How about a shot of "The Package", I'd like to see a pic of it in the sheath if finished. What did the OAL end up at, 15" - 16" ??
 
That is just stunning! Is it sold already or going to a show? If it's going to a show I wouldn't let anyone know you're bringing it! Noone else would dare show up!
Matt Doyle
 
WOW, thanks for all the comments.

J, you're too good a maker to give up knives and make model air planes :)

howiesatwork, no secrets, I coated the blade with satanite, heated to 1450f+/- and quenched in a fast oil.

David, Matt, it will be sold at the NY show soon with no sheath, if the new owner wants a sheath we'll send it to someone who is better than I at leather work. OAL is 15-1/2''.

Joe, you will get the look you're after with W2/1018 at 500-1000 layers. I like the low constrast look on some blades but I also like the high contrast look.

Thanks again guys!
 
Yikes when i read 3k layers i thought typo for a secound then my next thought is just exactly how thin each individual layer is. If blade thickness is .25 inch then each layer will avarage 0.00008 of a inch thick. Amazing knife period what else is there to say? In all respects truely amazing.
 
Thanks novaflare. Here's what I did for 3000 layers, start with 5, weld, draw out, cut into 6 peices and stack. Do this 4 times, now you have 1080, cut billet into 3 pieces and reweld for a billet a little over 3200 layers. 5 layers plus 5 welding heats = 3000+ layers.
 
sunfishman said:
Thanks novaflare. Here's what I did for 3000 layers, start with 5, weld, draw out, cut into 6 peices and stack. Do this 4 times, now you have 1080, cut billet into 3 pieces and reweld for a billet a little over 3200 layers. 5 layers plus 5 welding heats = 3000+ layers.
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Yeh its called exponential groth Same thing as when you fold a peice of paper in half 7 times turnign 90 degs each time. after 7 times it is 1024 layers thick. It's really sad because i know all the various folding meathods for steel but got no resources to even think about starting it. So obviously no experiance ither.

I assume that after a few reps the metal takes longer to heat up for folding and welding. Because the metal becomes essentially more dense with each rep. Like i said ive not done it before my self. What ive always really wanted to try is takign to soft metals typically used in hilts say for example brass and nickle and forge them togather and get a brass and nickle damascus look. Hell for all i know it has been done and can probably be done to get intrestign effects just by well stiring the melted metals togather to get swirls.
 
sunfishman said:
WOW, thanks for all the comments.

J, you're too good a maker to give up knives and make model air planes :)

howiesatwork, no secrets, I coated the blade with satanite, heated to 1450f+/- and quenched in a fast oil.

David, Matt, it will be sold at the NY show soon with no sheath, if the new owner wants a sheath we'll send it to someone who is better than I at leather work. OAL is 15-1/2''.

Joe, you will get the look you're after with W2/1018 at 500-1000 layers. I like the low constrast look on some blades but I also like the high contrast look.

Thanks again guys!
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The next time I hear someone say custom knives are never "perfect" I'm gonna smack them with a 2x4 ;)
That is outstanding Don,very well done :thumbup:
NY show huh?? :) I'll bet that beauty steals the show.
 
Stunning. The more I think about it, and think I understand it, the more I like it.

This place is one heck of a resource, thanks to you guys for inspiring newbies like me.
 
sunfishman said:
No, the hamon is the result of the steel mix, clay, quench, finish and etch.
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And for 10 points what other purpose does the clay serve?
a)allows the blade to have 2 varied hardness levels
b)servs as a heat dam
c)both of the above

:D
 
Depends upon what you consider a heat dam. I does not stop the heat but holds it to prevent the area under it from hardening.

Chuck
 
Don,

Did you pre work the wrought?? I tried using some whrought without pre working an wound up with fuzzy lines.

chuck
 
VERY nice Don. Something for me to work towards. :)
I'm assuming the pattern we see is primarily the welding lines?
 
Yep, C

Chuck, I forged the wrought down to size, 1/4''x1-1/2'' but that's all.

Phillip, no, the wrought and W2 etch and look different, just don't have the high contrast as 15N20, L6, 203E.
 
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