Crazy these cost about the same

Joined
Mar 16, 2008
Messages
1,252
And discuss...........

WMNVBvX.jpg
 
What are your thoughts on the cost of these knives?

Why do you think it's crazy they cost about the same?

As the OP, how would you like to start the discussion off?

Interested in your thoughts.
 
What are your thoughts on the cost of these knives?

Why do you think it's crazy they cost about the same?

As the OP, how would you like to start the discussion off?

Interested in your thoughts.

Yes, I'm interested, too... but I think it's clear from the title that he (she? he-she?) feels Emerson are far superior to ZT. :thumbup:
 
I too think Emerson's retail prices are a bit high.

For example, before the most recent 2015 price increase you could get a Microtech Socom Delta for around the price of the Super-7. Longer blade, lighter weight, better lock, better blade steel, grind more suitable for cutting, miles ahead in fit & finish..

That's just one example out of many. They are not the most cost-effective options out there.

If you're looking for true chisel grinds as a standard option, the Wave feature, and the amazing ergonomics & balance, however, there's not much elsewhere to turn.
 
Yes, I'm interested, too... but I think it's clear from the title that he (she? he-she?) feels Emerson are far superior to ZT. :thumbup:

Just feels kinda like a link and run... throw out 2 well-known respected brands and see what their supporters do. ;)

I have no personal experience with Emerson but it seems they make a darn fine knife. I only have one ZT which I enjoy immensely.
 
When someone starts a thread with just a title and says "And discuss...", it's like they're saying "Dance for me forum monkey's. Entertain me. Perform for my amusement".

If the OP isn't willing to elaborate on his feelings, why should I?
 
^This precisely.

I'd certainly be interested in hearing compare and contrast, but it has to start at the top.
 
When someone starts a thread with just a title and says "And discuss...", it's like they're saying "Dance for me forum monkey's. Entertain me. Perform for my amusement".

If the OP isn't willing to elaborate on his feelings, why should I?

I'd elaborate on MY feelings about the OP and the thread, but this isn't W&C.
 
No sides here..... In the end they both do what knives do, cut stuff

So it's not really so crazy they cost the same... it seems to me. They're blades that cut stuff and priced to what the market will bear.

It's pretty sane actually.
 
Last edited:
It's very easy to say Emersons are overpriced. Heck, I feel that way myself. Just keep in mind, the man has sold every knife he's made, production or custom. I don't buy into the Emerson mythos, but that's a darn good reason not to lower prices.
 
So it's not really so crazy they cost the same... it seems to me. They're blades that cut stuff and priced to what the market will bare.

It's pretty sane actually.

The same tired old "what the market will bear", huh.

I have my qualms with the offerings of both companies but it's readily apparent that one of the knives in the photo has more CNC time, more finishing steps, more work done on the blade, and more premium materials used.

You're right that they "both cut stuff", but the fact that they cost the same merits at least some second looks.
 
The same tired old "what the market will bear", huh.

I have my qualms with the offerings of both companies but it's readily apparent that one of the knives in the photo has more CNC time, more finishing steps, more work done on the blade, and more premium materials used.

You're right that they "both cut stuff", but the fact that they cost the same merits at least some second looks.

If you wish to give it a second look, by all means, go for it.

If they are both selling, my statement is neither old nor tired. :D

Having said that, discussing the merits of the economics of knife sales would probably be more interesting to me than some "same tired old" fight between Knife Company A and Knife Company B.
 
So it's not really so crazy they cost the same... it seems to me. They're blades that cut stuff and priced to what the market will bear.

It's pretty sane actually.

:) very profound response. Sane, yes sane... And great edit... I did laugh out loud...
 
Adventures in missing the point here......

It is not a whose knife is better thread

In the end we could price all knives at fifty bucks

At that price not everyone would end up with top end knives. In the end we buy what we like.

The actual "crazy" part of it all is us
 
Adventures in missing the point here......

It is not a whose knife is better thread

In the end we could price all knives at fifty bucks

At that price not everyone would end up with top end knives. In the end we buy what we like.

The actual "crazy" part of it all is us

To be fair, your point wasn't super clear since you offered literally no thoughts in your opening post. Now at post #18 we find that the "crazy" refers to we who would pay X amount of money for these knives. So I guess that clears that up.
 
If you wish to give it a second look, by all means, go for it.

If they are both selling, my statement is neither old nor tired. :D

Having said that, discussing the merits of the economics of knife sales would probably be more interesting to me than some "same tired old" fight between Knife Company A and Knife Company B.

If you want to discuss economics:

One company has to use a wide variety of different hardware, lock types, and pivot types over multiple models of knives. The other company uses the same hardware, same locks, and same washer pivots on each knife.

One company has to use various thicknesses of titanium for their locksides, with a multitude of different finishes and 3D CNC designs. The other one uses the same thickness titanium on every knife, and does relatively little finish work on their locks.

One company uses several different blade steels which require different heat-treating specs. The other has been using the same blade steel on all of their knives for over a decade.

One company advertises. The other company prides itself on not having to advertise in years.

Yet comparable products by both companies generally cost about the same.

So, why do you think that may be? What's the important factor?
 
Back
Top