CRK sebenza, is it really that good?

Are they worth upwards of $400? Maybe to some but not me. A friend is a CRK nut and I've handled his Sebenza a bit, very well made, nice action, don't like the pointy stud, somewhat blocky ergonomics and of course the sticker shock. I'd pay $200 for one but I can get a nice custom slippy for less than a brand new Sebenza and truly have a one of a kind piece. I like his Mnandi better, now that's a classy EDC.
 
Personally, CRK's don' t really do it for me. I'm more of a Hinderer or Strider guy. I tried a Sebenza for a while just to see what the fuss was about but eventually sold it.

Different strokes for different folks. . .

I'm in this camp.

I'm not going to argue with anyone's preferences, and I can't argue that they're not "worth it".. if a thing is worth what it will bring, Sebenzas have been selling well for a very long time, it's "worth it" to a lot of people.

I've been watching Chris Reeve since the entire line was a couple of hollow-handle survival knives machined from one piece. Interesting, but a friend bought one, and it just felt all wrong in my hands. The knurling was sharp and unfriendly, the handle shape uncomfortable and did not index well. I had no doubt it would look untouched after days or weeks of hard work with it, but my feeling was that my hands wouldn't last hours.

When Reeve came out with his first folder (at a pretty outrageous price for the time), it was a dream even to someday handle one... and then one day I did, and I was pretty underwhelmed. Don't get me wrong, it's a very fine knife, but it just didn't feel like a tool in my hand. Seemed a little small, not as easy to grip as I'd imagined, sort of... unfriendly... fit and finish were superb, but obviously a lot of effort also went into cosmetics/aesthetics, which I don't much care about.

Over the decades I've convinced myself to buy one at least three times, gone into the store at least half-intending to buy one, then when it's in my hand I just can't bring myself to do it. More than a little ironically, I did the exact same thing with the Umnumzaan a couple of months ago, researched it on-line, convinced myself I had to have one, and went into the store with every intention of coming out with it. Once it was in my hand, though... it seemed amazingly hard to open, I wasn't thrilled with the little urethane o-rings, and it seemed skinnier, lighter, and more delicate than I'd thought it would be. I just couldn't pull the trigger... as with the Sebenza before, I recognize the quality, I just couldn't LIKE it, no matter how hard I tried.

IMHO, Chris Reeve really raised the bar for all folders when he started making them, and that's a large part of the rep, I think... but you have to remember that it was a long time ago, and there was NOTHING that came remotely close to them in the market. At the time it was possibly the strongest folder made, at least for its size, and it was made so well that it had an unreal, jewel-like quality.

Things have moved on, though. On the jewel-like quality end you've got William Henry and some others, for sturdiness you've got Strider, Hinderer, now ZT, and some others. Some people want a Maserati, some want a HUM-V. CRK is no longer alone at that end of the quality spectrum, no matter which way your preferences go... and personally, I don't think the Umnumzaan moved their chess pieces on the board at all. Just struck me as a lot like the Sebbie, but harder to open, awkward to handle, and even less friendly. It even "bit"me a little, and I haven't cut myself with a knife in many, many years.

Me, I ended up with a couple of ZTs, now I EDC my 0551, suits me much better, it's tank-like and confidence-inspiring, but also a lot more comfortable, and I'm very glad I didn't go for the CRKs, I'm much happier with what I have.

Bottom line, if you LIKE the Sebbie, I think it's certainly worth it. I just couldn't. Or maybe they don't like me. ;)
 
Good insight because that's how I started in this craze ;)

takes time to get one, takes time to get to the point where you have enough knowledge and a good eye to understand
we first start with chinese knives, go to spydercos, benchmades, and so on

this means that materials, finish, ergos and such are something we learn, the sebenza is one of the last steps in knife knowledge, from black blades and serrations, strange ergos and designs, many pieces, you end up where "simplicity" is the key and that's what the sebbie (small 21) I have is, a simple and effective knife, made with top quality and good materials

takes time to get acquainted to it
personal suggestion is, to understand, get one and you'll eventually see it (if it's good/worth..)

Maxx
 
Very good insight indeed. I think many first time Sebenza buyers area somewhat dissapointed because of the lack of "flash". As you own and use one over the years you become more impressed at just how great these knives are.
 
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It is worth it!

People assume that all titanium framelocks with s30v are the same because they use the same raw materials but that is the farthest thing from the truth!

A Crk knife is hard to explain to someone that hasn't handled it, you have to see and feel it to believe it.

They are so well built with every last tiny detail perfectly implemented.
The action is so tight yet fluid and flawless.
The blade has absolutely no play.
The handles are chamfered in all the right place.
The use of a pivot bushing is genius! Allows for perfect tension on the washers and blade at all times.
It is the easiest production knife to disassemble and reassemble.

You really are buying perfection at a nominal fee. You will not find the same passion that Chris and company puts into his knives with any other production outfit.

You wonder why he is angered at the folks that are manipulating and wrongfully adjusting his knives and I believe that is because he is so passionate about his creations.
 
Several years ago, a pompous knifestore salesman answered my similar query, "If you have to ask, you won't appreciate it!". Well, old pompous one... I got my first CRK, an Umnumzaan 'StarTac', 9/10; my second one, a fb Nyala, 12/10; and my third, a small Sebenza, 7/11 - you were right... sort of! The small Sebbie cost me what my first ZT-0551 and finest Buck Custom Shop 110, in flaming Koa and Teardrop Damascus, summed. Would I do without the last two to get a small Sebbie? Sorry - but no! They are nice, however, if you can afford them. My CRK collection is complete.

Stainz
 
If you have an issue with me, take it to PM. Get whatever ya need to off your chest. Mmmkay? ;)


Enjoy RD...I remember *it* quite clearly from a past thread. A lot of meaningless opinion, minus any substance. :D
 
My Sebenza and Insingo are both sitting in my safe.

My Umnumzaan comes to work with me everyday. Whatever floats your boat. Personally, I'd say the best reason for choosing CRK is if the ergonomics agree with you, because the zaan' feels like a dream in my hand.
 
I have the same issue with CRK that I have with Strider's factory stuff - while fantastic, incredibly well made, functional knives, for the price I'd rather have custom.

(yes, I owned and used a small Sebbie for three months)
 
Whether you end up liking/loving the Sebenza or not, I believe everyone who loves carrying/using knives owes it to themselves to at least try a Sebenza or Umnumzaan.

Yes, it's spendy, but as I've said before, it'll still be in action when that $500 cellphone, likewise-priced golf driver, or lesser-quality-built folders are in the landfill. In this day and age of limitless waste, things that are built to last generations are priceless IMHO.

Professor.
 
I have a few older CRK Sebs - all terrific

But now they put Idaho Made on them I find they are blunter, don't open so well, and attract less women
 
I went from Benchmade and Spyderco to a small Sebenza after drooling over them in a display window. My only regret was that I did not buy a large. Sold the small and I now carry a large annual inlay. No regrets!
 
Once you own a Sebenza "the most interesting man in the world" calls you for advice.Women find
you more attractive.everyone respects your opinion,and when at coffee houses you get to whip it out
slice bagels to put cream cheese on it.everyone will accept it without hesitation.They just know

just my 2 cents worth
 
YES get one and compare the tolerances with any knife you own. The sebbie will have it beet i guarantee it, not to mention the customer service u get!!!
 
I just ordered my 4th Sebenza, a large 21 Insingo. I've been through Striders and one Hinderer XM-18. For what I use a knife for on a daily basis the Sebenzas are perfect.
 
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Whether you end up liking/loving the Sebenza or not, I believe everyone who loves carrying/using knives owes it to themselves to at least try a Sebenza or Umnumzaan.

Yes, it's spendy, but as I've said before, it'll still be in action when that $500 cellphone, likewise-priced golf driver, or lesser-quality-built folders are in the landfill. In this day and age of limitless waste, things that are built to last generations are priceless IMHO.

Professor.
 
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