CRKT is ****!

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I recently bought a CRKT m16-03 and was initially very happy with it. Then about 3 days later I went swiiming with my friends, I left the knife with my clothes and enjoyed myself in the pool, then dried off and cliped it back on the inside of my waistband and left. That night when I got home I noticed a few droplets of water on the blade, but I wiped them off, thinking nothing of it, and went to bed. the next day I noticed some marks that to me looked like rust now about 2 weeks later the "rust" has spread. I want your guys' oppinions but wont have any pictures until mid next week. This is very upseting because has highly recomended CRKT, I guess I feel ripped off. Thanks.
 
Michael,
Are you sure it is CRKT guilt your knife has rusted but not yours?
Do you think any other manufacturer's knife would behave differently in such treating result?
I'm not sure...

Sure, stainless steel just stains less but I don't want to start discussion how to maintain your knife. Please think about claiming the manufacturer no matter what name just because you are expecting from the knife more then it is able to give.
 
Yeah, I used my Benchmade 942 to spread sardines in tomato sauce on some crackers, forgot about it for a while, and when I rinsed the blade, there were a few minor rust spots. They came off with a kitchen scrubber and some WD-40, but still, Benchmade must be **** too.:rolleyes: Seriously, though, all steels, even "stainless" will rust over time. The chlorine and other chemicals in pools can be really rough on metal. Try drying the blade next time, and you might want to look into Tuf-Cloth for blade protection. The bead- blast finish on CRKT knives (and others as well) is notorious for rusting. Great for glare, bad for rust. Try to remove the spots with a pencil eraser. If that doesn't work, try a really soft kitchen scrubbie of some sort-- be careful, because you can wear a bright spot on the bead blast finish really easy. I have several CRKT knives, and once in a while, they get rust spots just like most of my other knives. A little bit of preventative maintenance can go a long way. If this doesn't work, try contacting CRKT to see what they say. Maybe you got a bad knife.
--Josh
 
I dont really think ANY manufacturer would be held at fault for a knife rusting....that, IMHO, is neglect and there is NOT a knife steel on the planet that has IRON in it that will not rust.....
Next time get Talonite. :)
 
Sorry but the rust is your fault, not CRKT's. Please be more careful in the future making blanket statements in your titles like "CRKT is ****!" :rolleyes:
CRKT makes fantastic products at great prices. Pool water (in my limited experience) is rougher on blades than salt water. Your mileage may vary.
 
second, yes,your knives WILL rust.
go buy a tuff cloth or something.
if your knife has a bead blast finish,then IT WILL RUST!
even a mirror polished blade will rust if not taken care of. "stain-less" not "stain-never"

Its not CRKT's fault. BB finish is just prone to rust,even on the most expensive customs. My Carson M4 developed light rust after a few weeks of neglect, but came off easily.

Slow down and think before calling it "****"
 
Hummer,

You mention you wiped off the blade, but what did you wipe it with? Did you treat it with any kind of oil? I don't think rust in the scenario you describe is anything that wouldn't happen with most other knives, and it certainly does not call CRKT into fault, given what happened.
 
Bead blasted blades tend to retain moisture, so it is important to keep them clean and oiled. I have never had any rust problems with any of my CRKT knives.
 
I am sorry for being mad at the CRKT I guess it isnt their fault, i just thought that stainless would hold up better than that. I mean I never put the knife underwater, it just rested against my damp swiiming suit for mabey 2 hours at the most. Anyways sorry for blaming CRKT.
 
I'm with my esteemed colleagues above. Knives can rust, there's nothing you can do about it but take care of them properly. If you want to avoid rust, there are a few things you can do:

  1. Maintain your knives a bit better. Be sure to wipe them down when they get wet, especially if exposed to salty or chlorine water. Consider hitting 'em with Tuff Cloth occasionally.
  2. Move away from bead-blasted blades, stick with satin-finished or polished blades. Bead blasting can turn even a very rust-resistant steel into a rust prone one.
  3. Consider moving to a more rust-resistant steel. Unfortunately, this usually (but not always) means that in order to get more rust resistance, you will give up other important attributes like toughness, edge-holding, and/or strength.
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    CRKT is already using very rust-resistant steels, ad accepting more performance degradation for more rust-resistance wouldn't be a good tradeoff, considering what steels CRKT already uses. If you want to stick with CRKT, your best bet is to look at their non-bead-blasted models, or better yet, take a bit better care of the model you have.

    I think it's unfair to claim CRKT is **** based on your experience.

    Joe
 
I think the problem is with the BB finish. I recently had a BM 940 in the pool and just dried it off when I was done. No rust whatsoever. The difference, the 940 has a satine finish.
 
I have owned three of the CRKT M16 series, I looked at their product line for a long time before buying one, because they had some vary interesting designs, but I have to say everyone I owned did have a bad problem with rust spotting on the blade, not to mention the fact I have seen several people mention lock failure as well, I think every knife line has its short comings, and rust and lock failure are CRKT'S downside.
 
I found a little trick for cleaning bead blasted blades without polishing them. Next time you notice small rust spots on your blade try this...Bar Keepers Friend (should be able to find it at your local grocery store) and an old tooth brush (unless you don't mind sharing yours with your knife) Poor a small amount of this stuff in the sink, wet your tooth brush (it's a powder so you need to wet the brush to get it to stick) dap the brush in it and scrub away the rust spots. I've used this stuff for a couple of years and it works great. Just a suggestion...
 
I also have had some rust problems with my Crkt beadblast Kasper I bought the knife new played with it a few times wiped it down with some light oil that i use on all my knives put it on my shelf for a few months when i opened it the other day it had rust spots that will not come off I don,t want to rank on Crkt but how do we know if the metal they use is really what they say it is they are made over seas and who is watching ???


Tim
 
I wish the major knife companies that use bead blasted finishes would give it up. I own three (one CRKT and two Kershaws) and I will not buy another one because of the problems with trying to keep stuff off the blades.
 
Yes, I for the most part do NOT like bead blast blades, although some of my favorite knives have bead blasted blades (fine bead blase, such as on the Kershaw Chive and Scallion).

I have a several CRKT knives, and a couple of them are satin finished/or polished. These knives (Zytel Mirage and I forget the other's name at the moment) resist rust very well, although they are the same steel (AUS 6M) as the bead-blasted ones. So I prefer satin or polished blades, which are also easier to remove rust from if it does form. I also think in many cases, bead blasting can make a blade appear "cheapy."

Regarding quality problems, I've never had any with their knives, but I still feel their original Mirage Zytel knives (I think they are discontinued) were the best liner locks they made in terms of solidity/lock positioning, etc.)

Overall, though, CRKT is an excellent company, IMHO.
Jim
 
It has been a long while since my high school chemistry classes but I believe most swim pools are chlorinated. And chlorine+water is acidic which is corrosive hell on steel, even stainless ones.

My CRKT Mirage which has the same steel has been soaked several times when I got caught in rain. I just dried them off - no problem with rust yet. I maintain all my knives with tuff cloth or a light machine oil anyway, stainless or otherwise.

Regards
Andrew Limsk
 
let me get this straight - ya wore the knife swimming, you noticed rust, later you notice more rust, and now CRKT's suck? why didnt ya just oil it when ya noticed the spot of rust?????? any knife blade can rust on you, and i personally would have oiled the knife after it got wet anyway, but whatever i guess......but imho ya dont have an issue w/CRKT


sifu
 
Thanks. Your post prompted me to go over each of the knives in my case with Tuff-Cloth.

Mike
 
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