CRKT M16 Spear Point

Here's something I found out the hard way, when I offered to sharpen my friend's M16. Apparently they've got a variable chisel grind (to invent terminology), so that it's something like a 35-degree chisel grind near the tang, and 20-degree chisel at the tip. Smooth transition on the way. No problem freehand, I expect, but awkward on a Lansky. Unless you wanted to just grind it all the same, but I imagine that would take time.

He had had it in Iraq long enough that I don't know how sharp it started out :p

Good solid-feeling knife, though. I was a little envious.
 
MSCantrell said:
Here's something I found out the hard way, when I offered to sharpen my friend's M16. Apparently they've got a variable chisel grind (to invent terminology), so that it's something like a 35-degree chisel grind near the tang, and 20-degree chisel at the tip. Smooth transition on the way. No problem freehand, I expect, but awkward on a Lansky. Unless you wanted to just grind it all the same, but I imagine that would take time.

He had had it in Iraq long enough that I don't know how sharp it started out :p

Good solid-feeling knife, though. I was a little envious.
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is this on the tonto? they get kindof wierd near the tip.
id just resharpen the whole thing on a lansky to 25 degrees :)
its AUS-6 or AUS-8, so it doesnt take long. a handful of passes with the extra course stone and its gone.
 
Ok guys, after much consideration, I've decided I'm going to get the M16-01K. I really want a new EDC..and a bigger model like the 13 seems a little too big to be comfortable in my pocket.

Now I just have to decide between a spear point and tanto blade :confused:
 
I would go with a spear point.. I love my tanto .. but I'm weird like that, and it just fits the knife being a large model.. I don't really care for the smaller tanto ones..Mine is freaking huge when open .. but oddly very easy to carry in the front pocket when closed..
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It's like having a pocket machete. Edit: I put that differnt pocket clip on it..


And the majority of input I have seen is that a Spear Point makes better cuts and is more piratical in day to day cutting chores for a edc knife.... :)

What ever one you pick though ,, if you have never owned a CRKT M16.. you will be very impressed and happy with it.. They are kick A$$
 
Yeah, maybe if I really love my 01K, I can use that for EDC, then get the 14.

I agree with you, I like the tanto blade on the larger models, and the spear point on the smaller models. That is a nice picture, and that is probably the model I'll get if I ever do get one.

Thanks :)
 
Blackhearted said:
is this on the tonto? they get kindof wierd near the tip.
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Nope, it was a spearpoint. If I had had an extra coarse or diamond hone, I might have evened it all out. All I had was the basic C, M, F stones. So I had to try to adapt. Not the best sharpening job I've ever done. :(
 
Those are supposed to be really good knives. My friends here local carry them in their pawn shop and say it is one of the better selling models regardless of blade shape. People just like the M-16 knife I guess.

The two CRKT knives I currently own are both flawless but mine are the Serengeti Hunter and the Rolox clone they came out with.
 
It would be awesome, Artfully, if you could post a pic holding your EDC like jefff did. That way I could compare the little baby to the big daddy ;)
 
I'll see what I can do...I don't have a camera, but next time I'm at a friend's house, I can use their's. But it's so close to the perfect EDC size (really). I would like the hilt to be about 1.5 CM longer just for a little more comfortable place for my pinky to rest, but it's still an amazing feeling knife. I'll go out on a limb here and say that out of every knife I have ever handled, the M16 series (in general) feels the best in my hand, along with maybe my Buck 560C. But the 560C is a monster....I carry it in a sheath....the M16, on the other hand, has perfect dimensions for real every day carry. I think it even looks sexy with that half inch that sticks out my pocket.
 
For What it's Worth,

I EDC an M16 13Z, and it has never failed me in any way. The flipper is great, the profile is nice, the handle is comfortable, and the lock (and LAWKS) has never given way. It takes a beautiful edge, and holds it reasonably well. The chisel grind can be a bit of a bother with fine cutting, but it's not a deal-breaker for me.

On top of all that, the knife is cheap enough that I feel absolutely no qualms about using the hell out of it on a daily basis.

Here's a pic:
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- Mike
 
Ok, sorry for the bump, I just got back from vacation.

Thanks so much for posting your pics guys, those size comparison ones were really helpful. I'm definitely going to buy the M16-01K :)
 
An excellent choice. I wasn't sure if the M16 and I were going to get along (I bought it over a delica in a sudden surprise decision) but I love it. It's definitely one of my favorite knives, including my benchmade and spyderco. Of all of the knives I've ever used, the M16 feels best in my hand. When you get the 01k, start saving for a big dog.
 
Artfull, is that a mini Grip next to the M16? How do the two compare. I have a full sized Grip and am thinking it's a wee bit too large for everyday stuff (opening boxes and other mundane stuff around the house). You say you still like the M16 over the Grip?
 
Oh, by the way, none of you guys with the 01K would happen to have a Buck Rush, would you? I'd really like to see a comparison picture of those two knives..I currently own the Rush and want something a little bigger. Here are the specs:

Buck Rush:

Blade Length - 2 1/2"

Closed - 3 3/4"

CRKT M16-01K:

Blade Length - 3"

Closed - 4"

So that means that I have half an inch more of actual cutting blade, and a quarter of an inch longer handle?

I don't know if the dimensions of the 01K are correct..just got them from some random website.
 
Don't have a pic easily available but I do have an M16-03K (PE version) and a Rush :) Actually I have a Mini-Grip and a Spydie Delica as well :D

I found that the Rush is more of a gentleman's type knife. Agree that it's a bit on the small side. I found that it was nice, but I found that closing it was a bit of a pain. It took more effort to close than say my Camillus Heat or Kershaw Whirlwind. The locking mechanism is a nice idea, but a little annoying at times. It is, in my experience, very sheeple friendly - I usually have it with me when I'm at a suit and tie type thing, or have to dress beyond my work clothes, which is usually cargo pant/golf shirt (I tend to carry several folders with me all the time) I can sure wreak havoc on those cork covers on wine bottles :D

I don't EDC my M16 as much as I used to, but I've had mine for about a year and it was one of the constant ones in my EDC rotation along with my SAK. I have medium small hands and found it to be a little better grip wise than a Mini-Grip. That's not saying that the Mini-Grip is bad, by any stretch, the M16 is slightly longer. It would have been nice to have deep riding clip and reversible (I'm a lefty with knives). I work in a high tech environment testing software, so for the most part, I'm not a hard user, but I do cut things several times a day and every once in a while I have to knock down server boxes, cut cable ties, etc. Normally, it's opening letters, packages,food prep, cutting stitching for my leatherwork, just average "stuff". Do I like my M16 over my Mini-Grip? No, but not by much. With the number of folders I have (I think it's around 70, give or take), the M16 is is near the top. A tougher call for me would be to make a decision between my Mini-Grip and Delica :D Both are PE - Mini Grip is the drop point one. I'm currently carrying the Mini-Grip clipped and Delica loose. I don't use my knives hard enough to say one steel really outlasts the other. BUT, the VG-10 on my Delica is very easy to get sharp. One thing I've noticed with VG-10, is that I can get that edge pretty polished, and it still seems to have "bite", if you know what I mean. Other steels, almost "seem" to be duller when highly polished, until you cut something, of course :)

Hope this helps - gord
 
It's pretty much a tie between the d2 minigrip and m16/11k....I actually use them for different things. Obviously, the D2 is superior to the AUS8, so heavy cutting falls to the minigrip. I also find it more sheeple friendly than the M16.

Conversely, the M16 feels slightly better in my hand, and significantly better in my pocket. It's just a very light, very slim knife.

The action, due to the flipper, is absolutely the best on the m16. I'm counting assisted openers here too. Elizabeth's scallion simply cannot be opened as fast as the smaller M16s. The action is so good that when you get used to the flipper, there is no wrist flicking involved.

There is a small problem though, the liner lock is extremely tough. It really bothered me for a few days until I built my callus. But the lockup is the best I've ever seen and honestly, I trust the lock in the M16 more than the axis lock.

The axis lock does make minigrips a lot more easy to open and close more quickly though. If I were planning to do that, I'd take my minigrip any day.

The M16 has kind of a sandwich construction that I'd be more comfortable in taking to messier environments, as everything should just fall through the other side. The axis lock, on the other hand, may have to be cleaned.

Overall, I'd describe the fit and finish of the M16 to be nicer than the benchmade.

The price of the M16 is superior to the d2 minigrip also, as a d2 will cost you something like 75 dollars, an M16 11k ~45.

The feel in hand is great on both knives, but I'd give it slightly to the M16. I really don't think a man with normal sized hands can go wrong with either, ergonomically. However, I do think Spyderco has the right idea with knives like the centofante or para, where the handle is significantly longer than the blade. Doesn't feel good in your pocket, but works really well on your hand. Both the M16/11k and minigrip are just a little too short for my hands....another centimeter and a half would have been perfect...as it stands, I squish my pinky against the other fingers so it all fits on there. But all a compromise for a smaller knife, I suppose.

Ultimately, you should buy both. They're so similar, but really, they have whole different jobs in my mind. Buy whatever suits you most now and in a few months get the other. You can't go wrong with either.

If you want to know more, I have reviews of both in the review section, and I also have liner lock testing of the M16 here in the main area.
 
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