CRKT Provoke Ripping up my Pocket

[Halfneck]

Having to carry it in a sheath negates the advantages of it being a folder.

 

[Brhowser87]

Received the Provoke sheath today.

It is very well made. It looks better than what I've seen of the sheath that comes w/the Chinese knockoff and I assume the Provoke is better than the Chinese knockoff of the knife too.

In any event the CRKT sheath comes w/2 DOT clips: 1) thin 3 hole and 2) the standard wide 9 hole.

I tried using the thin clip vertically 1st but it was not thick enough to keep the sheath vertical; it would lean over at an angle whenever I removed the knife from the sheath. So, that failed. It is also impossible to install the sheath horizontally w/the thin clip; not enough mounting holes available. Bottom line, the thin clip is pretty useless and it been better if left it out and reduced the price of the sheath to $30 instead.

Next, I tried installing the sheath horizontally using the wide clip but the sheath/knife stuck out too far from my body and would slide along the belt until it hit a loop before I could remove the knife. So, that configuration failed for me too.

Lastly, I installed the sheath vertically using the wide sheath in the standard configuration and that worked best for me. I could push the sheath back along my body so that then knife/sheath is less noticeable but still accessible. However, I could also slide it forward along the belt for easier access. The sheath holds the knife very securely and the only way you can remove the knife from the sheath w/o it moving side-to-side along your belt is to mount it vertically.

So, I think this is the best method of attachment and the only pics I took of the sheath were in this configuration. It's a very nice set up and, even though I could just carry the Provoke in my pocket, my preferred method of carrying it will be in the sheath.

I'm glad that I bought it.

And, finally, here's a pic of the knife/sheath along w/all of the other gear that I normally carry in my urban self-defense kit. It fits right in. LOL!

I do believe the thin clip is move for use with a MOLLE type system and the tek loc type clip is for belt carry......FWIW

 

[sgt1372]

Having to carry it in a sheath negates the advantages of it being a folder.

How's that?

A folder is still a folder regardless of whether you put it in your pocket or in a sheath. FWIW, sheaths (leather and/or kydex) are often made (usually aftermarket) for larger folders for ease of carry. There are many made for my ZT0200/300 which are very large folders. There are also large number of clipless folders that are sold w/sheaths, mostly camp knives like the Buck 110.

The Provoke is a very large knife. It can fit in my front pocket w/my wallet but it is a tight fit and is not entirely comfortable there. The clip is also an issue; the space between the clip and the frame is very narrow and makes it difficult to slip into a pocket w/a thick edge. Deployment of the knife from the pocket can also be slow and cumbersome, especially if it hangs up on something in the pocket. No such problems w/the,sheath. So, the newly released kydex sheath offered by CRKT is the best choice for me.

If you don't see the point of it and choose not to buy/use the sheath, so be it. That's your choice as it is mine to do the contrary. However, whether you choose to use a sheath or not has nothing to do w/it being a folder. It's simply an alternative way to carry it.

 

[Halfneck]

How's that?

However, whether you choose to use a sheath or not has nothing to do w/it being a folder. It's simply an alternative way to carry it.

Yes & No in my opinion.

To me the advantage of carrying a Karambit Folder is being able to carry it clipped in a pocket. If I need to carry it in a sheath, why not go with a Fixed Blade Karambit at that point? It's ready to use the moment I draw it out, no moving parts to go wrong, and faster to deploy if it's a SD scenario. Only drawback is it is bigger in profile & more difficult to conceal.

Just my opinion, and I respect yours that you disagree. Just wanted to further clarify what I meant by my above post.

 

[sgt1372]

Yes & No in my opinion.

To me the advantage of carrying a Karambit Folder is being able to carry it clipped in a pocket. If I need to carry it in a sheath, why not go with a Fixed Blade Karambit at that point? It's ready to use the moment I draw it out, no moving parts to go wrong, and faster to deploy if it's a SD scenario. Only drawback is it is bigger in profile & more difficult to conceal.

Just my opinion, and I respect yours that you disagree. Just wanted to further clarify what I meant by my above post.

FWIW, I've got a wide variety of other karambits that I can carry instead of the Provoke when pocket access and concealability is more important.

The karambit that I carry everyday on my belt is a fixed blade Bastinelli/Marcaida Pika, which is small, lightweight and extremely concealable. I can carry it under a light form fitting shirt w/out printing it. Wave type karambits that I can also carry are a Spyderco P'kal and Karahawk and a Fox Emerson karambit, which are all far better for pocket carry than the Provoke.

The Provoke is a obviously much larger and heavier weapon that will never replace any of these other karambits in terms of speed of deployment and concealability but it is ideal where a larger knife for heavier duty is needed and when maximum concealability is not essential.

That said, I can carry the Provoke in the sheath on my belt, under a light jacket or loose shirt, along and w/my gun, extra mag and cuffs, and you wouldn't know it was there unless I revealed it and I could still draw it from the sheath quick enough for surprise you if you didn't know it was there.

So, I view the Provoke as a special purpose tool/weapon that I would only carry in the sheath or in my pocket, if I think it is better suited to my needs or if I just feel like carrying it instead of the other karambits available to me.

 

[Sharperthansticks]

The Provoke is a obviously much larger and heavier weapon that will never replace any of these other karambits in terms of speed of deployment and concealability but it is ideal where a larger knife for heavier duty is needed and when maximum concealability is not essential.

Heavier duty? In a karambit? For what? Killing people with thicker skin?

 

[sgt1372]

Heavier duty? In a karambit? For what? Killing people with thicker skin?

I know you're being facetious but, if you look as Caswell's video of the knife, it is shown being used in other applications than just slicing flesh.

The blade is thicker and longer than you'd find in a typical karambit and it would actually be useful in non-combat mode to cut stuff like carpets (which is all that Nick Shabazz apparently thinks that iit's good for) or boxes, straps, ropes, branches and other such things that the blade on a smaller, lighter karambit (like my Pika, P'kal, Karahawk or Fox Emerson) could not do as well.

On the other hand, the blade of the Provoke (which is more wharnclife than karambit shaped) could probably penetrate a sternum if the blow is delivered w/sufficient force and is a much better stabbing weapon generally than the typically curved karambit blade (which is designed mainly for slashing/slicing) and would be very effective in penetrating thick coats/clothing which would impair your typical karambit.

So, these are just a few "heavy duty" purposes for which the Provoke may be better suited than your typical karambit.

 

[353]

That clip is very provoking..