Crkt vs. Benchmade

Well, here's the deal. I'd rather pay a bit more and support a small family-run knife shop than pay bottom dollar to a large discount internet superstore. But that's just me. Point is, so far, the CRKTs I mentioned are good, solid, dependable knives. Just my opinion.

But you just said you didn't want to pay for the $200 benchmade? Nevermind, I won't question logic. I pay more for steels and locking mechanisms that I like. I don't buy CRKT, however; I do buy Ontario and Cold Steel which use some of the same materials for similar costs. CRKT just doesn't seem to have a very good heat treat to me. The two other companies mentioned have some pretty awesome AUS8, but the CRKT knives I've had with the exception of one that had been mirror finished and reprofiled, were not great at holding an edge.

Sometimes it isn't about price, but performance for price.
 
But you just said you didn't want to pay for the $200 benchmade? Nevermind, I won't question logic. I pay more for steels and locking mechanisms that I like. I don't buy CRKT, however; I do buy Ontario and Cold Steel which use some of the same materials for similar costs. CRKT just doesn't seem to have a very good heat treat to me. The two other companies mentioned have some pretty awesome AUS8, but the CRKT knives I've had with the exception of one that had been mirror finished and reprofiled, were not great at holding an edge.

Sometimes it isn't about price, but performance for price.

Dude, buy what you want. Spend what you want. It's a freaking knife, not a Maserati. By the way, I went back to the knife shop to take a second look at those Benchmade Griptilians, just to be sure I wasn't being overly picky. I handled them again, and walked away again. Those Valox plastic handles look and feel cheap. Again, my opinion. Guess I'm just too used to handling my old American-made Schrade and Case stag-handled folders. I'm looking for a Benchmade that feels that solid to me. When I find it, I'll consider buying it.
 
Its called "Adamas" :D
I don't think you can go much more solid in a folder.
Too bad its so expensive
 
Used to own a CRKT M16 folder which I thought was the bees knees about 7 years ago. Lost it though. If they would actually use a half decent steel and make a tip-up carry pocket clip position I might actually consider getting one again because I liked the design. But until then, there are just a plethora of much, much better options out there.
 
Discussion 5 years after the thread began?? Alleging fanaticism?? Judgment on what people should be spending?? Definitively better than the Benchmade Grip?? Tactical weapons with intimidation factors with Recon Tanto Super Dooper Samurai Shogun blades?? 'Knowing' that other people are lacking real-world experience and that is why they don't agree with you??

Guys, I think this response was intended to be a sarcastic one... :)



I think he is posting this sarcastically in response to the common "Griptilian feeling cheap" argument that people assume translates to lack of performance even though they have never actually used the Griptilian, and despite how much data establishes the Grip is being one of the hardest use knives in town.

The statement that the CRKT being a better survival tool confused me at first, until I saw the "looking like a weapon" or having "intimidation" potential as being positive rather than extremely negative. I own both knives and while I do not think any sort of a comparison can be made between the two, I think he is poking fun at how so many makers have jumped on the "tactical SEAL Team 6 Delta Secret Special Ops G13 Ultra Classified Super XXX SCI Security Clearance at National Alert Level 4 to Run Counter Intel on the Plan 9 From Outer Space" bandwagon, and praising how the Griptilian hasn't jumped into this "tactical" snake oil marketing pitfall that is often seen.

Also, I couldn't see someone seriously paying 200%+ the MSRP.

It's a hoax :)
 
Well, here's the deal. I'd rather pay a bit more and support a small family-run knife shop than pay bottom dollar to a large discount internet superstore. But that's just me. Point is, so far, the CRKTs I mentioned are good, solid, dependable knives. Just my opinion.

Not to be rude, but you are full on being ripped off. They are charging over MSRP.
 
Not to be rude, but you are full on being ripped off. They are charging over MSRP.
MSRP: M16-12ZLEK - Kit Carson Design: $89.99
"Full-on ripped off"? What are you paying for this knife where you live?
Not to be rude, but I guess if you live in the Southern or Western US the price of pretty much everything is reduced to what the market will bear.
 
MSRP: M16-12ZLEK - Kit Carson Design: $89.99
"Full-on ripped off"? What are you paying for this knife where you live?
Not to be rude, but I guess if you live in the Southern or Western US the price of pretty much everything is reduced to what the market will bear.

In most places I look, it can be had for around $40.
 
Get a Becker, BK9/BK2/BK5
Get a RAT
Get an ESEE 3/4/5

I have the BK9/BK2/ESEE 3
Absolutely love those blades with my heart.
 
I saw the title of the thread "Benchmade or CRKT?" And thought, is that even a question?!?!?!

Nonetheless, I am pleased with my CRKT M16-12ZLEK. I've EDCed this knife for about three months now and it seems pretty solid. The only problem has been loosening of the thumb studs, probably due to excessive "flicking" of the knife on my part. This was remedied with a drop of LocTite thread locker.
Maybe this knife has improved since this thread started years ago but it seems pretty durable in its modern configuration. The stats are available here:
http://www.crkt.com/M16-12ZLEK?&search_id=801979
The knife feels solid and dense in the hand. The blade steel is AUS 8 and is a tanto with a combo hollow ground straight edge distally and a three-point serration along the proximal half. The flipper has a belt cutter and also forms an effective finger guard when in the open position. The butt end is equipped with a tungsten window breaker. The scales are glass-filled nylon and have a tough, solid feel with a pleasing, satiny texture. The pivot contains a Teflon disc that gives the action a smooth ride. The clip is tip down, very strong and right-left reversible. Unlike previous models, the clip is mounted at the very edge of the scales so that very little knife is visible in the pocket, which is important if you are carrying in a locale that is knifeophobic such as NYC.
The Lake And Walker Knife Safety locking mechanism (autoLAWKS) gives the liner lock extra support to help prevent accidental closure.
All in all I am pleased with this knife as a relatively inexpensive EDC. It is certainly not the piece of "junk" that some on this board would have people believe.

PS: In the spirit of fairness I am ordering a Benchmade mini-Griptilian to EDC and compare with the above.
 
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I love my mini grip, most likely you'll love it too. Im not saying CRKT is bad, I have a minimalist and love it, but I'm also a Benchmade nut, runs in the family.
 
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I think CRKT has the potential to do much more than they currently try for. They throw out so many bang for the buck knives that it is hard to keep track, and their expensive knives sometimes have weird mystery (proprietary?) steels. Lots of interesting designs though, with the whole M series being favorites. Just seems like they've got their minds stuck in the same realm as Kershaw, though Kershaw has a high end division in Zero Tolerance.

I had one of their knives in AUS-8 and liked it; the larger of the M series. I also had what I think is the 16 in AUS-6 I believe; that was a horrible butterknife that dulled when air touched it. I'm ok with the AUS-8 stuff, but then I know I can get a Rat, or any number of Cold Steel knives in the same steel at relatively the same price with a much better lock/blade geometry.
 
I think CRKT has the potential to do much more than they currently try for. They throw out so many bang for the buck knives that it is hard to keep track, and their expensive knives sometimes have weird mystery (proprietary?) steels. Lots of interesting designs though, with the whole M series being favorites. Just seems like they've got their minds stuck in the same realm as Kershaw, though Kershaw has a high end division in Zero Tolerance.

I had one of their knives in AUS-8 and liked it; the larger of the M series. I also had what I think is the 16 in AUS-6 I believe; that was a horrible butterknife that dulled when air touched it. I'm ok with the AUS-8 stuff, but then I know I can get a Rat, or any number of Cold Steel knives in the same steel at relatively the same price with a much better lock/blade geometry.


Well, I got the Benchmade mini Griptilian and I just can't deal with the handles. They just feel too "plasticky" for my taste. I grant that the "axis" locking mechanism seems more sophisticated than a liner lock, but the knife even sounds hollow when you tap it with your fingernail. I'm not saying the Grip is not a well-made knife, but I found myself preferring to carry the CRKT M16-12ZLEK. It's an aesthetics thing I guess. Believe me, I don't like the idea the CRKT is made in freaking China, but I get the rational. They can't make the knife in America at that price point. I get it. Personally I'm willing to pay extra for American-made but most people won't. I just happen to like the M16's more aggressive appearance and solid feel and I love the flipper that becomes an awesome finger guard. Just my opinion. They are just two totally different knives so it's not really a fair comparison. The mini grip is more like a small gentleman's pocket knife. I am still looking for an American made knife similar to the CRKT M16 and if it's not out of my reach I'd buy it.
 
When I need a knife that I know and can trust will not fail, I reach for ESEE or Cold Steel.

Out of CRKT or Benchmade, CRKT makes some nifty fixed blades out of O-1 if I recall. Certainly a better value. I don't really like Benchmade's fixed blades.
 
I have a pretty extensive collection of knives ranging from $2000 cabinet queen specimens to flea market finds that I found unusual and/or interesting. A knife is nothing more than an edged blade for cutting or stabbing. Any knife that does the job for which it's intended and is well-made can be a good knife. Unfortunately, some of you are fanatics that are obsessed with defending some brand that you happen to own, even if you paid more than would be prudent at your income level, and you feel compelled to denigrate any knife you don't approve of. I've recently seen and handled a few a Benchmade Griptillians and was not impressed. While the mechanism may be well made and the steel a better grade, the scales felt like cheap plastic in my hand. I ended up foregoing the $200 benchmade Griptillians and purchased the CRKT M16-12ZLEK AND 14ZLEK FOR $90 and $100 respectively. These knives are better survival and rescue tools than the Griptillians and have a seat belt cutter and window breaker. They are tactical folders that lock up so well that you'd think you were holding a fixed blade. The blades lock up solidly and with no play at all. What's more, these knives look more like weapons and have a greater intimidation factor than the Benchmades. I'm very satisfied and proud to own and carry these as they do the job they're intended for and feel solid in my hand. The point here is that some posters here seem to unjustly denigrate certain knives more because of some personal preference than based upon real-world performance and intent of use.

The hypocrisy is unreal here.

CRKT makes some cool knives but wouldn't go that far.
 
This thread was started in 2009, you guys, and now you're replying to 2014 necroposts?
 
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