Crossbar (Axis) Lock Folders

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RamZar said:
I just got a new Olight Rubato 2 folder with the Rail Lock (Axis Lock), 154CM blade and aluminum handle. It compares with the Benchmade 945 with S30V blade and aluminum handle. The Olight Rubato line is made by Kizer. Huge difference in price. Big difference in weight. The Rubato is smoother but the BM 945 is much lighter and has the better steel.

Olight Rubato 2
Blade Steel: 154CM
Handle: Aluminum
Blade Length: 2.93”
Blade Thickness: 0.11”
Weight: 3.19 oz.
Price: $89.99

Benchmade 945
Blade Steel: S30V
Handle: Aluminum
Blade Length: 2.92”
Blade Thickness: 0.104”
Weight: 2.00 oz.
Price: $207.00

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do you know if Kizer is the manufacturer for other Olight knives, or does it vary by model/family?
 
FearDoiteain said:
do you know if Kizer is the manufacturer for other Olight knives, or does it vary by model/family?
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I made an inquiry about a couple of weeks ago regrading the Olight Rubato 4 and a Caroline Zhang of Olight USA responsed: “I've confirmed with my colleagues in the relevant department that the Rubato 4 is made by Kizer.” The contact email was cs@olightstore.com in case you want to ask further.
 
RamZar said:
I made an inquiry about a couple of weeks ago regrading the Olight Rubato 4 and a Caroline Zhang of Olight USA responsed: “I've confirmed with my colleagues in the relevant department that the Rubato 4 is made by Kizer.” The contact email was cs@olightstore.com in case you want to ask further.
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Great info. Thanks!
 
I received my new Olight Rubato 4 folder with a 3" S35VN blade, Rail Lock (Crossbar/Axis) PEI (amber-to-transparent Ultem) scales for $89.99-$119.99. Compared to some other Kizer and Olight folders this has a much better steel (S35VN versus 154CM) and is much lighter (a full ounce ligher). Very smooth and well worth the extra dollars. The scales have some grittiness to them and not slippery. Blade thickness is just 0.10".

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This is easily my favorite crossbar folder. The lock is perfectly solid in all directions, it's a super functional EDC folder, and a looker as well. The blade is pretty tall and really sliced-- I use it for just about whatever I need, from cutting cheese and bread to paring through the limbs of a frozen Christmas tree. I put a nice mirrored edge on it @ 20 dps, and it still shaves after working through cardboard and wood.
 
Leo Greer said:
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This is easily my favorite crossbar folder. The lock is perfectly solid in all directions, it's a super functional EDC folder, and a looker as well. The blade is pretty tall and really sliced-- I use it for just about whatever I need, from cutting cheese and bread to paring through the limbs of a frozen Christmas tree. I put a nice mirrored edge on it @ 20 dps, and it still shaves after working through cardboard and wood.
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What’s the make and model on that?

Thanks.
 
The only knife that I own with an Axis lock that I can recall is the Benchmade Crooked River (15080-1) which looks like this:

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It's one of the 1st knives I bought when I joined BF.

I don't understand the specifics of the Axis lock design well enough to be able to say if I own any other knives using a similar lock design but I do own a variety of Spydercos with the horizontal ball type lock but that's probably different.
 
ultima_ratio_regis said:
you can try the ganzo d704 in d2 as well, I think you'll love it if you require smoother action from your knife. it's even cheaper than the prado.
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Ganzo runs their D2 hard, I find it's a pain to debur.

I really like the prado. If there is one caveat it's that the edge terminates too close to the plunge. Definitely going to get smileys and a little recurve action.
 
Satisfied with all BM I have ever had. Barrage, mini Barrage, griptilian, 940, Violi. No problems ever in over 10 years with them.
 
I have a few 940's and a single 945 and while they all function just fine it does bother me a bit they all feel different in spring weight. And all of them but the custom shop 940 came with too much blade wobble that I had to adjust. I do have two Kizer Drop Bears it's hard to compare washers to bearings but they both feel and operate great. It's hard not to be biased either way since I like both series of knives.
 
SwissHeritageCo said:
Ganzo runs their D2 hard, I find it's a pain to debur.

I really like the prado. If there is one caveat it's that the edge terminates too close to the plunge. Definitely going to get smileys and a little recurve action.
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Funny you say that, as many complain about inferior Chinese D2 steel :) I've seen luvthemknives on YT testing Ganzo's D2 at 61-62 HRC.

I don't sharpen my knives, I have a professional knife maker who does that.

About the Prado, yeah, the ergos, the fit and finish and the overall quality of the knife are fantastic for the price asked.

My first Axis lock was a Benchmade Presidio 2, I find both the Ganzo and the CRJB to have superior action due to better machining and ceramic ball bearings.

The only thing that's better in the Presidio is the steel, S30v vs D2/RPM or whatever CRJB are using.
 
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