"crowbar with an edge"

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FRIZ

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Gentlemen:
I am looking for a crowbar with an edge.
I am interested in the following fixed knife overall sizes:
10” or less
9” or less
8” or less
A friend recommended the Strider DB (8” or less) and the Strider MT (10” or less).
Price is of minor concern. Quality is most important to me.
Thank you,
Regards,
FRIZ
 
Crowbar with an edge with little price concern, first thing that comes to mind is Busse.
 
Cold Steel Recon Scout...7.5" blade.
Cold Steel Trailmaster Bowie...9.5" blade.

Both are 5/16ths an inch THICK.
 
I'd go with a Busse. I've had nothing but good experiences with their knives, and their owner. :thumbup:
 
Best crowbar with an edge that I have ever read about or heard of is probably one of the Mission Beta Titanium knives. You break one of those you have accomplished a feat.

Second I'd look strongly at a Camp Tramp for a fixed blade or some other Busse.

Strider is probably one of the better choices also from what I have read. Apparently one of the few companies that expects you will use it as such too.
 
Here is link to some of the Mission knives I saw. http://www.ustacticalsupply.com/missionknives.shtml

http://www.trgear.com/osc/eshop/product_info.php/products_id/239

I don't know how comforable the handle is on the MDK but it looks like a brute.

I also like the MPK12-Ti

These won't take quite the same kind of shaving edge that you can get with steel but they will cut certain materials just fine and in some ways they are better than steel. Still the ti blade is known for not being the best for your edge but this Beta Ti is some tough stuff.
 
But I heard that Ti., no matter what kind, really, really doesn't hold an edge at all. Below is a quote by Joe Talmadge:

"Titanium Newer titanium alloys can be hardened near 50 Rc, and at that hardness seem to take something approaching a useful edge. It is extremely rust-resistant, and is non-magnetic. Popular as expensive dive knives these days, because the SEALs use it as their knife when working around magnetic-detonated mines. Mission knives uses titanium. Tygrys makes a knife with a steel edge sandwiched by titanium."

It's a specialty knife that's the best compromise closest to metal when working around critical magnetic fields. That mean mines.

I drove by a coal mine one. But never close to and explosive mine. That's just mine opinion. :D

Cliff
 
In alphabetic Order:

Buck Strider - Solution
Busse - Steel Heart
Fehrman - Extreme Juggement
MadDog - ATAK
Mission - MPK A2
Ontario - TAK
Ranger Knives - RD...
Swamp Rat - Ratweiler
TOPS - ...

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Cliff Stamp did a review on the ti blades and they cut ok on softer materials like rope and what not with the serrated edge blades as I recall. I'm sure he can say more on that. It is a toss up as to what is more critical for Friz. The pry bar feature or the edge it can get.
 
Personally Id go with a strider, I can tell you there damn good espicially for abuse. I would also like to point from reading the forums for a while now, busse and strider have been talked about a lot and have recieved real positive feedback, I don't own a busse so I cant make any garuantees but I know those two brands are talked about all the time for your purposes.
 
If price isn't an issue, I'd go with a Hartsfield Strongboy. At 10" overall it is probably the original "prybar with an edge" and it really cuts!


-Scott
 
Even if price isn't an issue, it can be a factor. Busse is probably the best combination out there for toughness and cutting and handling. You can save a few bucks and get something from their budget line, Swamp Rat.

Mission is practically indestructible also, and if weight is a factor, titanium is an advantage. If chopping is a factor, titanium is a disadvantage. :)

But I heard that Ti., no matter what kind, really, really doesn't hold an edge at all.
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It's really best to stick to what you know, not what you've heard, when giving advice. :D I have a couple of small Mission Ti knives, the MPU and MBK -- the same skeleton handle neck knife but the MBK has a 4" blade instead of 2". I've been using them in the klitchen on fruits and vegetables and bread for a year or so and their plain edge holds up slicing sharp.
 
TOPS makes some big arse knives, too, 1095 for the most part. Some of their larger ones fit the crowbar-with-edge definition.
 
I do stick to things I know, that's why I didn't state the above. I quoted the author, who wrote the article on Knifeart. He must know knives right? He writes extensively on blade material of many different types.

Additionally, another author who writes on blade materials, Bob Engnanth, has the following to say:

"TITANIUM is only a marginally acceptable metal for a knife blade. It cannot be hardened much past the mid 40's of the Rockwell C scale, and that's spring, or throwing knife territory. Aside from that, I'm sure that there will soon be collectable titanium knives on many custom makers tables, designed to catch collectors, and not for cutting".

The preponderance of information about Ti, is that it can't hold an edge no matter how high tech it is. I can quote about 8 other DIFFERENT people who concur on the same views.

So, I do not say this. Say again, I do not say this. I only say what I know. Busse is best in my book. I have one. I only quote what others say. So please be correct in your request to me. I am sticking to what I know. :D

Ti again, is used by the Seals only because it is the best compromise in certain situations.

Ti vs. fruits. I say Ti wins. My point is that the gentleman wanted to have a recommendation on a good knife, money no object. If a person is only to have one, then why be dissapointed after some true cutting only to see that the knife is dulled quickly and doesn't maintain an edge. Give him a good reccommendation.

Peace to all. :D

Cliff
 
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