CS Trail Master fails miserably

I like and own many of Cold Steel's products. That being said, CS like other companies uses features of other's designs - that's one thing. But I read the whole American Tomahawk thing - both threads and they were wrong but seem to have come to an amicable settlement in the end. :)

In recent years CS has really improved it's image, offering better knives and improvements on existing knives. They did after all, gain license from Benchmade to use their version of the axis lock, all legal and above board.

I think they've overcome their growing pains and seem to be taking the high road. They don't need to rip anybody off, they're one of the biggest knife companies in the world and they make good stuff for a good price IMHO. :thumbup:
 
Apebrains said:
Are you surprised? It's Cold Steal. Don't willingly allow yourself to be robbed. You'd be better off flushing your money down the crapper (I'm prepared for the backlash, I just don't really care). Do yourself a favor and go ESEE or something similarly great.
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Apebrains said:
Listen, I said I don't care about backlash, and I don't. One of the beautiful things about this forum is that we're all invited to share our opinions and be adults. I don't appreciate being a accused of being a "troll".
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With the above statement you made that I quoted and than part of the last post that I quoted your statements makes you a troll.
 
Apebrains said:
Sigh. Alright. I give up. I'm sorry.
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Opinions are fine, everyone has them. :)

But there are better ways to express them than the way you did it. ;)

Or don't post in that thread at all.... I do that a lot on subjects I don't like etc....
 
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I did some prying with a CS SRK. The knife broke where the blade met the tang just slightly into the handle. Whether the corners at this point are 90 degrees or radiused, it would still seem to me that this area would be the weak link of the blade.

I understand there are proper ways to baton and use the knife, and they aren't made for prying tools, but I have several other knives from different mfs, Busse, Fallkniven, ESEE and I could stand on the knives and they wouldn't break.

My question is why do some mfgs such as CS continue to use a blade that sharply reduces to a tang the size of a pencil and tout them as hard use knives? Why not just beef up the tang to almost equal the width of the blade as other Mfgs do?
 
Apebrains said:
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I don't like ALL things Cold Steel, but I do tend to be a fanboy (if a 42 year old can be a fanboy) of CS products, and I'll admit it. Others can feel free to disagree, though, and no offense taken. Dadgum, though, Apebrains, that pic is hilarious!
 
The Trail Master tang is quite wide. I forget exactly how wide but I removed the rubber and rehandled mine.
 
brianNH said:
I did some prying with a CS SRK. The knife broke where the blade met the tang just slightly into the handle. Whether the corners at this point are 90 degrees or radiused, it would still seem to me that this area would be the weak link of the blade.

I understand there are proper ways to baton and use the knife, and they aren't made for prying tools, but I have several other knives from different mfs, Busse, Fallkniven, ESEE and I could stand on the knives and they wouldn't break.

My question is why do some mfgs such as CS continue to use a blade that sharply reduces to a tang the size of a pencil and tout them as hard use knives? Why not just beef up the tang to almost equal the width of the blade as other Mfgs do?
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tomcrx said:
Funny. From the video

Heavy leather gloves
WD-40
Trailmaster

All to split wood

Dang...just pack an axe.
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:D

Or...
just use whatever it was that cut those nice square ends on the wood.
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These videos crack me up.

WD40?
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Finding older used Marbles on ebay is not hard, if they are not pretty the prices are reasonable. For a hard use knife they are good but do not measure up to the best currently available. The steel used in the good old days is considered soft by today's standards. I like traditional hunting knives, the Woodcraft and Fieldcraft models are still as good a hunting knife design as you may ever use. I just keep looking for them in more modern steels.
 
Bobby Craig said:
Marble went bankrupt and no longer make knives in Michigan. I noticed someone is making some cheep stuff overseas with the Marble name on it but those are not real Marbles. I am hoping they come back or that Mike guy from Bark River picks up the knife line (I use to not want him to but I really want one). I think he started at Marble and then started Bark River so it would be the same thing to me. I don’t know if I want him to change the knife over to A-2 though.

Its funny (kind of). about two years ago I was in AG Russell’s and he had a display of Marble Ideals setting there. I was looking at them and was thinking of buying one. I did not know if I could justify the knife so I put it up. Someone behind the counter told me that if I wanted one I better get it now because Marble is going out of business and once the knives are sold that’s all they will have. Well me being the dumb non-trusting fool figured it might be a sales pitch to make me buy it now so I just put it up and looked at something else. Well, sure enough they went bankrupt (going out of business and bankrupt to me is the same thing) and now everybody is out of the ideals in 6 and 7 inch. I have seen a few 4.5 inch but no big ones. I am now kicking myself in the but for not listening to them at the knife store and I know mister Russell does not need to miss lead me to sale knives. I am hoping that at his knife show in Rogers Arkansas next week on the 30th I will find one.

I am not saying Marbles are the worlds best knife but they are a good knife and something I would really like to have.

I have been a gun nut for years but only in to knives for the last few years. I am not out to get every knife that every catalog offers but I want a select few. I want to Finish up my Becker Ka-Bar knife set just because, then I want some Marble Ideals, a Few Black Jack knives then a Randle number 1 fighter and I am getting my kid a 15 Airman. I also want the Browning Crow...I forget the name but its that really big one I talked about in another post.

I am also wanting a few Canal Street Bowies in D2 and a few select others but I am not wasting my money on stuff like SOG and Cold Steal and the such. I am glad they are here but they are not for me.

Anyway, what was the question?
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I think the Browning you want is made over seas.Is it that competition knife that you're talking about?I am of the same opinion as you.I love to see MADE IN THE U.S.A stamped on a blade.thats why I held out for Carbon V TM and RS.I own a few C.S. Voyagers wich are made in Japan and I have a few Spydercos one of wich I carry everyday that are also Japanese made.I love ESEE products.I own Becker,CASE,Great Eastern,BUCK,old Schrade,but if I see a quality made product not of the U.S. I will not let that hold me back.When I was a kid it seemed like all the old men that hung around while my father was working their bird dogs thought that a good knife should say Soligen on it.I remember one old man long gone now thought the only knife made was a German Eye brand.I to have quite a few guns and have managed to accumulate all U.S. Made,but have owned a few Bennelis and a couple Berrettas.I guess what I am getting at is that I found something compariable that was made in the U.S.A and now the Italian guns have new homes.I had a berretta over under until I got my hands on a Ruger Red label 28 guage I really liked that gun.In the knife industry it's not as easy to do this at least not for me.I recently purchased a Mccurdy kukri.I absolutely love this thing and so does all my buddies that see it.Two have offered to buy or trade me out of it but to my knowledge I don't know of any American made knife like this at this price and qualiy i.m.o.I am just talking here and I believe everyone has a right to their own opinion and this one is mine.I know full well it ain't the gospel (my opinion)but I love all my cutting tools whether they be made over yonder or right here in the best country in the world the good ol U.S.A.
 
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